Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ariel Biener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If they charged you for the fact you made them upgrade their link, you > wouldn't be able to pay. > Israeli customers except near US prices, for way > more investment on the side of the ISP. Personally, I get the feeling you > don't really know this asp

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > Anyhow, at peak times, we reached about 130 HTTP processes (less than > the 150 MaxClients). The HTTP server's transfer > (http://www.iglu.org.il/stats/mrtg/traffic_http.html) went up to around > 40kb/s. > > In sum, the linux_report.html was downloa

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:59:52PM +0300, guy keren wrote: > the server is hosted on the understanding that its main feature is to > serve the israeli community of linux users. not the world-wide community > of linux users. so just don't abuse this if you don't wish for the server > to get kicked

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Ely Levy
network, routers > and servers are up to their job, and monitor it 24x7 for possible > problems. Anything less is incompetence on their side. > > Just my 2c, > Haim. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread guy keren
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Haim Gelfenbeyn wrote: > 3.Now I host with different provider (in the US), and there were times > when my site got 8GB/day traffic (dynamic and static content). What thay > say is "our servers reliability is our problem, not yours. We will bill > you accordingly, but our ser

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread guy keren
On 14 May 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > not everybody places a file on their server and then posts a message to > > slashdot. :0 > > You mean, not everybody who creates a web page advertises is on /.? > Granted, but so many of them hope that someone will post the link there. this was NOt an

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Ariel Biener
On 14 May 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > I don't buy this argument. They can limit the traffic by contract, and > offer to pay more for extras, just as Haim said. Paying for extra is divided into two counts: 1). access 2). used bandwidth If they charged you for the fact you made them upgrade t

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ariel Biener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If, in order to supply you with your needs, it needs to add 5Mbit of > capacity to it's planned capacity, it costs a FORTUNE. I don't buy this argument. They can limit the traffic by contract, and offer to pay more for extras, just as Haim said. > Thus

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Haim Gelfenbeyn
> > On Mon, 14 May 2001, Haim Gelfenbeyn wrote: > > > So I think this is Actcom's job to ensure that their > network, routers > > and servers are up to their job, and monitor it 24x7 for possible > > problems. Anything less is incompetence on their side. > > Hi, > > > I think you are mistake

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Ariel Biener
ay,May 14, 2001 6:57 PM > > To: guy keren > > Cc: Chen Shapira; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: iglu on slashdot > > > > > > guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > this wasn't a normal slashdot post. it was an intended test. > &

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Haim Gelfenbeyn
IL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Oleg Goldshmidt > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:57 PM > To: guy keren > Cc: Chen Shapira; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: iglu on slashdot > > > guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > this wasn't a normal slashdot post. it wa

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > this wasn't a normal slashdot post. it was an intended test. Even so, the resulting hits were normal for /. There was no traffic generated on purpose. > not everybody places a file on their server and then posts a message to > slashdot. :0 You mean, not

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Ely Levy
actually there is actcom and I think many other isp would remove a page that takes too much bandwidth or take extra money after certain amount of infomation Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On 14 May 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: | Chen Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Ariel Biener
ople, you could > have DOSed their network. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Omer Musaev > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 4:14 PM > > To: 'Hetz Ben Hamo'; Oren Held; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: iglu on slashdot > > > > >

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Chen Shapira
'; Oren Held; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: iglu on slashdot > > > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:46:18PM +0200, Chen Shapira wrote: > > And next time, do coordinate such activity with the actcom > people, you could > > have DOSed their network. > > Yes, I ad

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:46:18PM +0200, Chen Shapira wrote: > And next time, do coordinate such activity with the actcom people, you could > have DOSed their network. Yes, I admit I decided to take a risk :) Anyhow, at peak times, we reached about 130 HTTP processes (less than the 150 MaxClien

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread guy keren
On 14 May 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Chen Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > And next time, do coordinate such activity with the actcom people, you could > > have DOSed their network. > > Question #1: Don't we distinguish between DOS and Slashdot effect? this wasn't a normal slashdot

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Chen Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And next time, do coordinate such activity with the actcom people, you could > have DOSed their network. Question #1: Don't we distinguish between DOS and Slashdot effect? Question #2: Is everybody who posts a link on /. or another DOS-capable service/

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Chen Shapira
And next time, do coordinate such activity with the actcom people, you could have DOSed their network. > -Original Message- > From: Omer Musaev > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 4:14 PM > To: 'Hetz Ben Hamo'; Oren Held; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subj

RE: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Omer Musaev
> -Original Message- > From: Hetz Ben Hamo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:21 PM > To: Oren Held; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: iglu on slashdot > > > Yeah, > > Ilya and I have decided to see what will happend if we'll

Re: iglu on slashdot

2001-05-14 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Yeah, Ilya and I have decided to see what will happend if we'll stress test the Compaq server - with a slashdot attack. So, in co-ordination with the slashdot authors on IRC, Ilya on his side converting a word document to HTML and PDF - and me in the middle of this - we decided that - yes -