RE: connectivity question

2005-07-13 Thread Guy Teverovsky
If you feel comfortable with patching the RHEL's kernel, you can configure IPSec in so called "opportunistic mode" with pre-shared keys when you do not establish an actual tunnel, but force encryption of the traffic between the two boxes. If you were running 2.6 kernel, that would probably be the

RE: connectivity question

2005-07-13 Thread Guy Teverovsky
ounts in AD. All the rest is bells and whistles. Guy > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Geoffrey S. Mendelson > Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:38 PM > To: Hetz Ben Hamo > Cc: Linux-IL > Subject: Re: connectivity qu

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:53:16PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What about SSH tunnel with pptp? a. pptp is a generic way to tunnel ppp over IP. You can plug in encryption. Why tunnel it on top of ssh? b. tunneling on top of TCP is generally a bad idea c. pptp has only the control connectio

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:30:56PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:02:40PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > Are you looking for an ssh client or server? There are a number of good > > ssh clients for windows. some are based on openssh. There is also putty. > > >

RE: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Ohad.Levy
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ehud Karni Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; linux-il@linux.org.il Subject: Re: connectivity question On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:42:55 +0200, Danny Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: MinGW [was Re: connectivity question]

2005-07-12 Thread Diego Iastrubni
ביום שלישי, 12 ביולי 2005, 13:51, נכתב על ידי Shlomi Fish: > > Whats the difference between it and MSYS+MinGW? it = MS Services for UNIX > Well, MinGW stands for Minimal GNU for Win32. It's basically a port of the > compiler and other compilation tool-chain, so it will run on Win32, but > without

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Ehud Karni
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:42:55 +0200, Danny Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ssh - requires MS services for Unix on the Windows boxes, secure, strong > authentication, good for transferring large files, or large numbers of > files over the WAN The Cygwin ssh/sshd is excellent (OpenSSH_4.0p1)

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 03:02:40PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Are you looking for an ssh client or server? There are a number of good > ssh clients for windows. some are based on openssh. There is also putty. > And there are some servers based on cygwin and such. open ssh runs fine on SFU an

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Ehud Karni
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 13:41:48 +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:07:48PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Basically the same. Also includes vim, emacs and Xorg. But how will it > > help here? > > Cygwin won't. SFU supprts NFS, telnet and SSH. It ha

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 02:42:55PM +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote: > Geoff > > Fair enough. ssh is king. > > To summarize the thread - the Windows to Linux connection over the WAN > has a few options > > ssh - requires MS services for Unix on the Windows boxes, secure, strong > authentication, g

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
Geoff Fair enough. ssh is king. To summarize the thread - the Windows to Linux connection over the WAN has a few options ssh - requires MS services for Unix on the Windows boxes, secure, strong authentication, good for transferring large files, or large numbers of files over the WAN Webdav

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
Tzafrir I totally agree - but it really depends on how willing the customer is to start installing and maintaining software - Webdav is elegant for the client who wants to stay away from VPN or FTP client installations - like my client :-) danny Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:59:13PM +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote: > ssh requires installing WinSCP on the Windows boxes and logging in with > a client side VPN in Youval's scenario Results from type ssh metatron (the host name of one of my windows machines) Welcome to the Interix UNIX ut

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:31:26PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > So now the only solution that I see here is to purchase a minimum > Win2003 package, put all the video clips in the Linux server and > connect between them, so while the apache on the linux serves the > pages, the Windows MMS serves t

MinGW [was Re: connectivity question]

2005-07-12 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 12:54, you wrote: > ביום שלישי, 12 ביולי 2005, 12:38, נכתב על ידי Geoffrey S. Mendelson: > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > > What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the > > > 2 servers. > > > > Microsoft Services

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
ssh requires installing WinSCP on the Windows boxes and logging in with a client side VPN in Youval's scenario Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:58:31PM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: It is a reasonable choice. It has the disadvantage of being slow as a dead elephan

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
imho - both Samba and MS services for Unix unsuitable solutions for connecting systems running in two geographicly separated managed hosting facilities. Its an unrealistic solution because: a) latency b) tco of using vpns or fw vpns c) the average customer does not want to install any additi

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 01:07:48PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Basically the same. Also includes vim, emacs and Xorg. But how will it > help here? Cygwin won't. SFU supprts NFS, telnet and SSH. It has a real inet deamon so you can run your own port based services. See my other posting about inte

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:54:07PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > Whats the difference between it and MSYS+MinGW? Sorry, no idea. If this helps, it's much more integrated than Cygwin, which IMHO implements a linux emulation layer on top Windows. In useage IMHO Cygwin is a halfway point between

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:58:31PM +0300, Marc A. Volovic wrote: > It is a reasonable choice. It has the disadvantage of being slow as a dead > elephant swimming up a treakle creek, but over an internet link that should > not be too much of a disadvantage. SSH seems fine to me. I run it over 100

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, > What I am trying to understand, Hetz, is WHAT kind of a permanent link do > you want between the two machines? Replication? DRP? Failover? Quite simple... I need to do some video streaming for an audience who have no clue about Quicktime, Real Player, or even downloading/installing plugins

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 12:38:00PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the > > 2 servers. > > Microsoft Services for UNIX. Free (as in beer, not open source). cyg

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Diego Iastrubni
ביום שלישי, 12 ביולי 2005, 12:38, נכתב על ידי Geoffrey S. Mendelson: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the > > 2 servers. > > Microsoft Services for UNIX. Free (as in beer, not open source). > > Pro

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Marc A. Volovic
Quoth Geoffrey S. Mendelson: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Microsoft Services for UNIX. Free (as in beer, not open source). It is a reasonable choice. It has the disadvantage of being slow as a dead elephant swimming up a treakle creek, but over an internet

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 11:57:09AM +0200, Danny Lieberman wrote: > Hetz > > Yes there is a good way - WebDav. What I don't like about webdav is that you can basically only access it through apache. Samba is a daemon that is designed to run as root and support multiple users. Apache is designed

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 10:08:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > What I'm trying to do - is to make a permanent connection between the > 2 servers. Microsoft Services for UNIX. Free (as in beer, not open source). Provides you with an almost complete posix environment including a telnet daemon, a

Re: connectivity question

2005-07-12 Thread Danny Lieberman
Hetz Yes there is a good way - WebDav. We have just implemented WebDav on Apache in a Linux Server RH3 in hosting (rackspace) with remote W2003 servers and XP boxes WebDav is well supported on both O/S's, its quite efficient and connections are persistent. You setup WebDav on Apache with basi