Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread dittigas
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 15:17, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > > I brought that example up. He was not impressed. Apparently, Clalit > went, succesfully, through a court proceeding to enforce such a > settelment without even having the actual source mentioned in a contract. > There are two issues: Wri

RE: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Rony Shapiro
Hi, Thanks for summazing the discussion for the list - indeed an interesting subject. I'm probably issing the context of the discussion, but I really don't understand why Mr. Gilon feels that a commercial organization should even consider adopting Open Source software (or anything, for that matte

Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: One note: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:47:43AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Now, I tried to point the practical reasons behind the social contract, and his response rather suprised me. Basically, he has contracts with all of his software vendors that gives him full acces

Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: And no, Didi, I don't think even Clalit have source code access to Windows, but I am sure they have a support contract with redmond and a few MSCEs on staff. Whatever they have with Clalit makes them comfertable enough. I agree that this, under no stretch of imagination,

Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Yedidyah Bar-David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > and his response rather suprised me. Basically, he has contracts with > > all of his software vendors that gives him full access to the source > > code in case the company goes under. His basic premesis was "I can get > > competition over suppo

RE: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Tal, Shachar
Shachar Tal Verint Systems -Original Message- From: Tzafrir Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:25 PM To: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon > http://www.newsforge.com/software/03/10/18/1814211.shtml?tid=132&tid=82&

Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
One note: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:47:43AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Now, I tried to point the practical reasons behind the social contract, > and his response rather suprised me. Basically, he has contracts with > all of his software vendors that gives him full access to the source >

RE: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Tal, Shachar
-Original Message- From: Shlomi Fish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:46 PM To: Shachar Shemesh Cc: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon > I'm fine with it. Albeit, it could turn into a one against many flame-war. Then we'

Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hi list, > > Just came back from a meeting with Gadi Gilon. For those who don't > remeber, he is the CIO of "Kupat Cholim Klalit". He stumbled upon the > last time his name was mentioned on this list (thread starting at > http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.

Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, First, I want to say that this is one of the most interesting emails I read recently. On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:47:43AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hi list, > > Just came back from a meeting with Gadi Gilon. For those who don't > remeber, he is the CIO of "Kupat Cholim Klalit". He stum

Re: Meeting with Gadi Gilon

2003-11-04 Thread Ez-Aton
My donation: Of course not every user can change software on machines in every hospital. Users can't do a thing. One of the highlights of a Unix (and of course, a Linux) management, is that it can be managed from one sigle center point, and easilly. Assuming, for the matter, that there are zero h