RE: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Chen Shapira wrote: > > I think it was Gal Yahas who wrote once that "real Programers do > > cat < /dev/audio > a.out, pick up the microphone and whistle" > > and we change the old saying to: > "an infinite number of rockbands given infinite time can produce Linux"? Well, y

RE: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Chen Shapira
> I think it was Gal Yahas who wrote once that "real Programers do > cat < /dev/audio > a.out, pick up the microphone and whistle" and we change the old saying to: "an infinite number of rockbands given infinite time can produce Linux"? -- Chen Shapira We will honor a contract and stand by a f

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Ira Abramov
On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Moshe Zadka wrote: > With cat vs. vi, and Burrows-Wheeler vs. Lempel-Ziv in there for good > measure. And, and of course, with Zadka advocating Pytohn, 'cause that's > what Zadkas do best. (Winnie the Pooh reference, anyone?) ZAPTA - Zadka Advocates Python To All :-) And Ome

RE: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Evgeny Gesin
Are there on the Linux all the Win/Unix equal products available, such as BEA WebLogic Servers, Java Web Server/NetscapeEnterprise Server, etc. If yes, have these prods. the same list of features as their Win/Unix versions? What does not available? Thanks. -- Evgeny Gesin Java 2 Certified Program

RE: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Evgeny Gesin
>From my experience JBuilder for WinNT is able to plug-in any jdks up to 1.2 version and I found it as the best Java IDE. On Linux\Unix platform there is Java version of JBuilder, which is really slow, as you pointed out, and I prefer the old (AWT) Java WorkShop 2.0, and avoid of either Emacs, VI

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Omer Mussaev wrote: > ACK. vi vs emacs is too old to be true... > > However, the war is vi vs. gvim With cat vs. vi, and Burrows-Wheeler vs. Lempel-Ziv in there for good measure. And, and of course, with Zadka advocating Pytohn, 'cause that's what Zadkas do best. (Winnie th

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Omer Mussaev
Moshe Zadka wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Ira Abramov wrote: > > > I'll stick to good ol' mouse-insensitive > > terminal vim. > > Real men use "cat > source.c", and edit with sed/grep/awk, or use the > interactive Python interpreter to make changes. > Of course, they put > "from my_editor import *

RE: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Chen Shapira
> Real men use "cat > source.c", and edit with sed/grep/awk, or use the > interactive Python interpreter to make changes. zcat is much faster. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the mess

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Omer Mussaev
Pavel Bibergal wrote: > people!!! > STOP!! > cool down.. > don't start this war vi VS. emacs again! ACK. vi vs emacs is too old to be true... However, the war is vi vs. gvim -- Omer Mussaev051-308-214 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] systems programmer, Mercury Interactive/RND/Conduct/core

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Ira Abramov wrote: > I'll stick to good ol' mouse-insensitive > terminal vim. Real men use "cat > source.c", and edit with sed/grep/awk, or use the interactive Python interpreter to make changes. Of course, they put "from my_editor import *" in their $PYTHONSTARTUP, and use c

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Omer Mussaev
Ira Abramov wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Omer Mussaev wrote: > > > > > > > Emacs JDE is much better if you have regressed to vi. > > > What can be better?? :-) > > > > gvim. > > just inject me with gooey honey straight down one of my major > arteries... gvim is for wimps, real men use the keyboar

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Pavel Bibergal
people!!! STOP!! cool down.. don't start this war vi VS. emacs again! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Ira Abramov
On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Omer Mussaev wrote: > > > > Emacs JDE is much better if you have regressed to vi. > > What can be better?? :-) > > gvim. just inject me with gooey honey straight down one of my major arteries... gvim is for wimps, real men use the keyboard. the only thing I use the mouse is

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Ira Abramov
On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > yeah, but it sucks, it's slow, it's not JDK 1.1 compatible, you can't > > cut and paste with the X clipboard... I'm back in VI :-) > > > > Emacs JDE is much better if you have regressed to vi. > You have syntax highlighting + the annoying key seque

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Omer Mussaev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ira Abramov wrote: > > > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Pavel Bibergal wrote: > > > > > If u want to use the same standart IDE for linux and windows.. u should > > > get borlands Java Builder.. > > > It is free.. > > > > yeah, but it sucks, it's slow, it's not JDK 1.1 compatible,

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread iaaron
Ira Abramov wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Pavel Bibergal wrote: > > > If u want to use the same standart IDE for linux and windows.. u should > > get borlands Java Builder.. > > It is free.. > > yeah, but it sucks, it's slow, it's not JDK 1.1 compatible, you can't > cut and paste with the X clipbo

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-06 Thread Omer Mussaev
Ira Abramov wrote: > Hi Evgeny. you can't post to this list if you are not subscribed. > > > Does anyone use Linux for Java development? > > Why do you find it more comfortable for that than WinNT? First: cost. Second: toolkits. Applications developed with java tend to have relation to network

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-05 Thread Ira Abramov
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Pavel Bibergal wrote: > If u want to use the same standart IDE for linux and windows.. u should > get borlands Java Builder.. > It is free.. yeah, but it sucks, it's slow, it's not JDK 1.1 compatible, you can't cut and paste with the X clipboard... I'm back in VI :-) -- Ir

Re: Java & Linux

2000-06-05 Thread Pavel Bibergal
If u want to use the same standart IDE for linux and windows.. u should get borlands Java Builder.. It is free.. Ira Abramov wrote: > Hi Evgeny. you can't post to this list if you are not subscribed. > > > Does anyone use Linux for Java development? > > Why do you find it more comfortable for th