RE: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-10 Thread Imri Zvik
-Original Message- From: Imri Zvik Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 11:46 AM To: 'Aviram Jenik' Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: RE: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP -Original Message- From: Aviram Jenik [mailto:avi...@jenik.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009

RE: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-10 Thread Imri Zvik
-Original Message- From: Aviram Jenik [mailto:avi...@jenik.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 6:46 PM To: Imri Zvik Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP Noam didn't say blocking port 25 for everyone is a good thing or that he likes it - just

RE: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-10 Thread Imri Zvik
port 25, as tempting as it might sound for your average abuse desk personnel, is a stupid idea. -Original Message- From: Oleg Goldshmidt [mailto:p...@goldshmidt.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:02 PM To: Aviram Jenik Cc: Imri Zvik; linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: Israeli ISP blocking

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oren Held wrote: 11 Dec == 13 Oct. And for anyone still wondering how octal got into it, in C (and, consequently, other languages as well) you denote an octal numeric constant by prepending a "zero". So in order to give a numeric constant in Octal whose decimal number is 11, you'd write:

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-08 Thread Oren Held
On Wednesday 08 April 2009 10:46:54 Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Oren Held wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 April 2009 20:46:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > >>> For the last few days, an ISP who shall remain nameless (but who's > >>> name in octal is equal to 11) has decided to block outgoing SMTP > >>> connections to

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oren Held wrote: On Tuesday 07 April 2009 20:46:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: For the last few days, an ISP who shall remain nameless (but who's name in octal is equal to 11) has decided to block outgoing SMTP connections to servers abroad. Stop playing games, who is the ISP? Barak 013

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-07 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 11:01:52 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Aviram Jenik writes: > > Noam didn't say blocking port 25 for everyone is a good thing or > > that he likes it - just that this is what ISPs in Europe and the US > > are doing that to fight spam. > > Not in my experience. That is, unless I

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-07 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Aviram Jenik writes: > Noam didn't say blocking port 25 for everyone is a good thing or > that he likes it - just that this is what ISPs in Europe and the US > are doing that to fight spam. Not in my experience. That is, unless I grossly misunderstand the problem. In my mind, this means that the

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-07 Thread Oren Held
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 20:46:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > For the last few days, an ISP who shall remain nameless (but who's > > name in octal is equal to 11) has decided to block outgoing SMTP > > connections to servers abroad. > > Stop playing games, who is the ISP? Barak 013. Octal 11 == Decimal

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
> For the last few days, an ISP who shall remain nameless (but who's > name in octal is equal to 11) has decided to block outgoing SMTP > connections to servers abroad. Stop playing games, who is the ISP? > I realize that spam is a problem, but this 'solution' strikes me as, how > to put it, ina

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-07 Thread Aviram Jenik
ill think it is a bad idea, even > though it is very effective. > > > > -Original Message- > From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il > [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On Behalf Of Aviram Jenik > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 10:42 PM > To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il; ro...

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-06 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:55 PM, ronys wrote: > Hi, > > For the last few days, an ISP who shall remain nameless (but who's name in > octal is equal to 11) has decided to block outgoing SMTP connections to > servers abroad. They've done this unilaterally, without notifying customers, > and, for t

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-06 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Monday 06 April 2009 10:55:40 ronys wrote: > Hi, > > For the last few days, an ISP who shall remain nameless (but who's name in > octal is equal to 11) has decided to block outgoing SMTP connections to > servers abroad. They've done this unilaterally, without notifying > customers, and, for the

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-06 Thread Tomer Cohen
Hi, Requiring ISPs to tell customers what they are blocking and why sounds as a good idea to me. I am a customer of the same ISP for long time, and they are blocking every application I use! * I don't have secure IRC access for some months now (while regular IRC connections work, but I prefer to

Re: Israeli ISP blocking outgoing SMTP

2009-04-06 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/4/6 ronys : > Hi, > > For the last few days, an ISP who shall remain nameless (but who's name in > octal is equal to 11) has decided to block outgoing SMTP connections to > servers abroad. They've done this unilaterally, without notifying customers, > and, for the first couple of calls to s