Re: DMZ

2002-09-13 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi, On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 10:05:58AM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 12:25:25AM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > > > I think the main difference is that ML answers are given late at night, > > with late-at-night moods (and tiredness), for better or worse :-). > > I

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 12:25:25AM +0300, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > I think the main difference is that ML answers are given late at night, > with late-at-night moods (and tiredness), for better or worse :-). I disagree. I often do email at the early hours of the morning :) But you're certa

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Sep 13, 2002 at 12:05:33AM +0300, Guy Cohen wrote: > > ObLinux: how do I share easily an entire machine's hard disk with > > other machines? NFS sharing / led to all sorts of nastiness. Pointers > > to FMs welcome. > > cluster is a way. Err, I happen to know a thing or two about cluster

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
was in its place. - Original Message - From: "e-tie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:54 PM Subject: RE: DMZ > Please dont get me wrong, when you are stuck help is needed, but come on, > DMZ? i me

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread guy keren
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Guy Cohen wrote: > You couldn't be more right. The art of mailing list is slowly dying. > people who spend 5 and more years investigating unix want to get payed > and are sick and tired of not finding a job because a potential employer > could just send a question to the mai

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: DMZ": > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 09:27:18PM +0300, Guy Cohen wrote: > > You couldn't be more right. The art of mailing list is slowly dying. > > people who spend 5 and more years investigating unix want to get pa

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Oleg Goldshmidt: > Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > DON'T even dare thinking of a shared scsi bus! > > Out of curiousity: why shouldn't I think about it? If you are not yet old, you will become VERY old by playing with shared scsi busses. I did this quit

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DON'T even dare thinking of a shared scsi bus! Out of curiousity: why shouldn't I think about it? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = "... Of theoretical physics

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'll say it gently: the service a consultant provides should not be > equivalent to an answer on a mailing list. If it is, said consultant > is doing it wrong... No. The customer is doing it wrong... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 11:13:09PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 09:27:18PM +0300, Guy Cohen wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 08:48:35PM +0200, e-tie wrote: > > > Have we forgot the lost art of RTFMing? > > [snip] > > > On security discussions...got a spare 5 years? > >

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Guy Cohen
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 11:13:09PM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > I'll say it gently: the service a consultant provides should not be > equivalent to an answer on a mailing list. If it is, said consultant > is doing it wrong... Of course there's no substitute to real professional who's doing a

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Muli Ben-Yehuda: > ObLinux: how do I share easily an entire machine's hard disk with > other machines? NFS sharing / led to all sorts of nastiness. Pointers > to FMs welcome. DON'T even dare thinking of a shared scsi bus! -- ---OFCNL This is MY list. This list belongs to ME! I will

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 09:27:18PM +0300, Guy Cohen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 08:48:35PM +0200, e-tie wrote: > > Have we forgot the lost art of RTFMing? > [snip] > > On security discussions...got a spare 5 years? > > You couldn't be more right. The art of mailing list is slowly dying. > pe

RE: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread e-tie
Please dont get me wrong, when you are stuck help is needed, but come on, DMZ? i mean there are so many docs out there on DMZ. As i see it, first see if you can find it and learn it yourself, then approach the comunity! Oh and btw i'm out of a job too, and i dont even know l/unix that good. securi

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Guy Cohen
On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 08:48:35PM +0200, e-tie wrote: > Have we forgot the lost art of RTFMing? [snip] > On security discussions...got a spare 5 years? You couldn't be more right. The art of mailing list is slowly dying. people who spend 5 and more years investigating unix want to get payed and

RE: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread e-tie
Have we forgot the lost art of RTFMing? On the original subject, go read: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO-3.html On security discussions...got a spare 5 years? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the wor

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 20:29, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Hi All > > Small confusion. > > what exactly is DMZ ? > If it is an area between the Internet and the Firewall then its not under > protection of the firewall. > If so what the firewall manage here ? > The art of security is all about risk

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Eli Marmor
Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > > Hi All > > Small confusion. > > what exactly is DMZ ? De-Militarized Zone. A typical topology is a 3-legs firewall, one goes to the Internet/FR- router/ADSL/whatever, the second to a hub with all the client computers (WIN machines etc.) connected to, and the third g

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ben-Nes Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi All > > Small confusion. > > what exactly is DMZ ? > If it is an area between the Internet and the Firewall then its not under > protection of the firewall. > If so what the firewall manage here ? To put it simply, if not comprehensively, it is

Re: DMZ

2002-09-12 Thread Guy Cohen
> what exactly is DMZ ? > If it is an area between the Internet and the Firewall then its not under > protection of the firewall. > If so what the firewall manage here ? Say you want to make a tight security policy in your firewall: dont let *anything* enter to the windows network but lets some s