Re: The bullshit of upstream/downstream ratio (was: Re: ADSL questions)

2000-12-22 Thread Dani Arbel
x10 is what the providors plan to. With the prices of ATM connections (required to connect the ISP to Bezeq), they will not have enough b/w for more, once the ADSL becomes more spread out. Dani On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Dani Arbel wrote: > > > True. I yet ha

Re: The bullshit of upstream/downstream ratio (was: Re: ADSL questions)

2000-12-21 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Dani Arbel wrote: > True. I yet have to find the videophone for Linux ... > Bezeq do not commit to any service, and reduced their claim from x300 > speed to x10 speed. do not expect to do real videoconf with ADSL (and your > lower limit for REAL good video conf will be 720 Kb

Re: The bullshit of upstream/downstream ratio (was: Re: ADSL questions)

2000-12-19 Thread Dani Arbel
True. I yet have to find the videophone for Linux ... Bezeq do not commit to any service, and reduced their claim from x300 speed to x10 speed. do not expect to do real videoconf with ADSL (and your lower limit for REAL good video conf will be 720 Kbs). Dani On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Omer Zak wrote:

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-18 Thread Oded Arbel
- Original Message - From: "Dani Arbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tomer: > 1) This 64Kbs upstream limit was not implemented yet. I read opinions to the contrary on Bezeq's ADSL forum. most of the people there doesn't strike me at too technical persons, but their description of upload and down

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-17 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Oded Arbel wrote: > Bezeq's sales person verified this (but what do they know, right ? :-), said > that upgrading will be possible later, said it's not available right now and > refused to comment on a time frame in which it will be available or how much > it will cost (thoug

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-17 Thread Oded Arbel
- Original Message - From: "Dani Arbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tomer: > 1) This 64Kbs upstream limit was not implemented yet. I read opinions to the contrary on Bezeq's ADSL forum. most of the people there doesn't strike me at too technical persons, but their description of upload and down

The bullshit of upstream/downstream ratio (was: Re: ADSL questions)

2000-12-15 Thread Omer Zak
There is a cretain application (which is important to hearing impaired), for which all the intricate and convoluted calculations of d/l:u/l ratios are completely irrelevant: VIDEOPHONES This application is characterized by d/l:u/l ratio of 1:1. For people who need t

RE: ADSL questions

2000-12-15 Thread Dani Arbel
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 13-Dec-2000 Oded Arbel wrote: > > A couple of questions for those of us who has an ADSL connection to the > > world : > > Is it possible to run a server on this connection ? > > can you easily detect your external IP from linux ? You can run a s

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-15 Thread Dani Arbel
Tomer: 1) This 64Kbs upstream limit was not implemented yet. 2) Normal ratio for home user d/l:u/l is 10:1 , so this 64Kbs u/l limit is equvivalent to 640 Kbs d/l. ou do not get this with ISDN. Dani On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Eran Tromer wrote: > Hello, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > ordering ADS

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-15 Thread Dani Arbel
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Oded Arbel wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Eran Tromer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > channels), will be twice as fast at a comparable price. > only one problem - I can't maintain a 128Kbps connection - it drops a few

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-14 Thread solomon
On 14-Dec-2000 Oded Arbel wrote: > Thanks. I thought there might be a problem due to the fact that (as I > understand) the connection between the ADSL "modem" and the computer is done > on a private IP space (sort of masquerading ?). > how did you find out the external IP of the ADSL "modem" ? do

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-14 Thread Oded Arbel
- Original Message - From: "Eran Tromer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. I thought there might be a problem due to the fact that (as I understand) the connection between the ADSL "modem" and the computer is done on a private IP space (sort of masqueradin

Re: ADSL questions

2000-12-13 Thread Eran Tromer
Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ordering ADSL, and I'd like to know if it's posssible to run a web > > server using that connection. > the real questions may be: > 1 - Is the upload connection Bezeq will give fast enough? According to an official Bezeq document dated 2000/11/16, the upstrea

RE: ADSL questions

2000-12-13 Thread solomon
On 13-Dec-2000 Oded Arbel wrote: > A couple of questions for those of us who has an ADSL connection to the > world : > Is it possible to run a server on this connection ? > can you easily detect your external IP from linux ? I don't know about the server (although I don't see why not), but the IP