Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-27 Thread Henry Ficher
Ira Abramov wrote: you know the type, lots of random text and the spam is in an attachment that changes ever so slightly to avoid getting a unique signature for razor/pyzor and friends. the only option is of course to authorize with a while list, like I saw some services have. first time yo

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-27 Thread Oded Arbel
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 09:27 +0200, guy keren wrote: > i think that you have to give up some of the paranoya (i'm going to > block the e-mail that'll change my life!) in order to get good > filtering. Its a different kind of paranoia when you're a service provider (and may I say - a bit more legiti

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-27 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006, Micha Silver wrote about "Re: Picture spams - again.": > After compaints started to mount up from users, I decided to try > greylisting. >.. > I don't know how long this improvement will hold out, but so far I'm > pleased. The problem wit

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-27 Thread Micha Silver
Ira Abramov wrote: you know the type, lots of random text and the spam is in an attachment that changes ever so slightly to avoid getting a unique signature for razor/pyzor and friends. . what do YOU do to fight this? the smartest filter I know is Google's and even IT fails on some spams e

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-27 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006, Ira Abramov wrote about "Re: Picture spams - again.": > well, care to share that list of usefull RBLs? I'm always afraid to > block too much, and someone else's experiance with specific RBLs' record > is valueable. Here is the list of RBLs

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread guy keren
the moment you publish anything on the web in a non-anonymous way - this becomes useless. i had a hoard of image spams here in the last few month, and about 3 weeks ago most of them were gone. i think someone in my ISP changed their anti-spam software or setup. i think that you have to give up s

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread Amos Shapira
On 27/11/06, Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Oded Arbel, from the post of Sun, 26 Nov: > I'm using bogofilter as the last line of defense. The first line is a > large list of RBLs, including my own RBL with which I aggressively block > dynamic IP pools (in addition to specific spa

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Oded Arbel, from the post of Sun, 26 Nov: > I'm using bogofilter as the last line of defense. The first line is a > large list of RBLs, including my own RBL with which I aggressively block > dynamic IP pools (in addition to specific spammers, mostly Israeli, who > aren't blocked by spamhaus

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On 11/26/06, Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I catch almost all of the remaining spam with a set of home-brewed huristics which suite my needs. I used to have checks like this. I'd be ensuring my bug-tracker email was receiving only messages originating from bug-trackers, etc. but that'

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006, Ira Abramov wrote about "Picture spams - again.": > the only option is of course to authorize with a while list, like I saw > some services have. first time you send me and Email I make sure you are > human with a return mail to a URL with captcha, and y

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread Oded Arbel
On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 19:35 +0200, Ira Abramov wrote: > you know the type, lots of random text and the spam is in an attachment > that changes ever so slightly to avoid getting a unique signature for > razor/pyzor and friends. As mentioned by Peter, bogofilter still does a pretty decent job with t

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread Peter
bogofilter is not confused by this. If you want good results you have to run bogofilter separately for each user. There is no other way. I sometimes get false negatives but nothing comes through. The bogo database is only 2.8M and it has been running here unmodified for a year or so. Peter

Re: Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On 11/26/06, Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I looked into the text of some of those (got hundreds if not thousands a day to choose from) and the text is also very topical. this bit of spam seems obviousely designed for an OSS person (as in, harvested from a web archive of a technical mail

Picture spams - again.

2006-11-26 Thread Ira Abramov
you know the type, lots of random text and the spam is in an attachment that changes ever so slightly to avoid getting a unique signature for razor/pyzor and friends. I looked into the text of some of those (got hundreds if not thousands a day to choose from) and the text is also very topical. thi