Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-06-02 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Thanks. Actually that is exactly what I intended to do, but it's impossible to compare "something" to "nothing". As I wrote, the ISP is somehow blocking certain ICMP replies (not all of them) and I cannot compare if there is nothing to compare to. In other words, Wireshark did not capture anythin

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-06-02 Thread Yedidyah Bar David
On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 3:28 PM Steve Litt wrote: > Shlomo Solomon said on Sun, 19 May 2024 21:46:14 +0300 > > >Thanks. > >I see your point, but in this case it does not help me for the > >following reasons: > >1 - my purpose is to teach how to emmulate traceroute using Python and > >Scapy, so lo

segfault virtual Linux console (was Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem)

2024-05-23 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Yes - I should have mentioned that you can also get a desktop (which I didn't need, but nice to know it's available). ALSO - even if you only use the console, you can also access a GUI file manager in your browser. The instructions on how to activate it were a bit cryptic, but once I figured it ou

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-23 Thread Steve Litt
Shlomo Solomon said on Mon, 20 May 2024 09:21:18 +0300 >https://shell.segfault.net/#/login Very, very nice! Not only a shell, but you can get a desktop system too. To be sure, it's throttled significantly, but if I ever find myself without a working Linux system, I can use this resource to get i

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-23 Thread Steve Litt
Shlomo Solomon said on Sun, 19 May 2024 21:46:14 +0300 >Thanks. >I see your point, but in this case it does not help me for the >following reasons: >1 - my purpose is to teach how to emmulate traceroute using Python and >Scapy, so looking at the "real" traceroute code written in C is not >really

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-20 Thread Shlomo Solomon
This was not meant to be a debate about software development, so let me end this thread by: 1 - thanking all 2 - saying that aside from one "small" point, I agree with all Guy wrote in his last post about security, curriculum, develpment, etc - especially about "software developers that insist on n

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-20 Thread guy keren
On 5/20/24 09:25, Shlomo Solomon wrote: On Sun, 19 May 2024 23:17:13 +0300 guy keren wrote: the fact that traceroute works in this case while your python code doesn't work in this case, suggests there is some at least one scenario that your code doesn't handle, even though it could. Than

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-20 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:24:19 +0300 shimi wrote: > should have asked: "I don't want to use my ISP, can you recommend a > shell provider that does not block traceroute?" > > -- Shimi Thanks again. Good point, except that when I started the thread, that option did not even occur to me - especial

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-20 Thread shimi
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 9:26 AM Shlomo Solomon wrote: > Thanks again. > > As I wrote earlier in reply to Guy Keren, I know that the Python/Scapy > code to emulate traceroute does NOT work like the real traceroute, but > that is the assignment I give to my students based on the curriculum, > so co

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Thanks again. As I wrote earlier in reply to Guy Keren, I know that the Python/Scapy code to emulate traceroute does NOT work like the real traceroute, but that is the assignment I give to my students based on the curriculum, so comparing this code to the real traceroute does not really help in th

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Sun, 19 May 2024 23:17:13 +0300 guy keren wrote: > > the fact that traceroute works in this case while your python code > doesn't work in this case, suggests there is some at least one > scenario that your code doesn't handle, even though it could. Thank you again. I agree, but see the rest

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Replying to my own post :-) As I wrote earlier, I do not want to go to the time and expense of using a cloud server. That would really be over-kill in this case. But I discovered a great free service that offers a Linux bash prompt in the cloud with no need to setup anything. For anyone who is int

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread shimi
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 5:43 PM Shlomo Solomon wrote: > I teach computer networking and the latest assignment I gave my > students was to use Python and Scapy to emmulate traceroute. The code > is simple: > - send an ICMP packet with TTL = 1 which will fail but return the > first hop address >

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread guy keren
the fact that traceroute works in this case while your python code doesn't work in this case, suggests there is some at least one scenario that your code doesn't handle, even though it could. your refusal to look at the code of traceroute, and instead insisting of "blaming the middle-man" a

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Thanks. I see your point, but in this case it does not help me for the following reasons: 1 - my purpose is to teach how to emmulate traceroute using Python and Scapy, so looking at the "real" traceroute code written in C is not really relevant. 2 - The fact that Python code that worked until rece

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread guy keren
On 5/19/24 17:42, Shlomo Solomon wrote: I teach computer networking and the latest assignment I gave my students was to use Python and Scapy to emmulate traceroute. The code is simple: - send an ICMP packet with TTL = 1 which will fail but return the first hop address - continue sending ICMP

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shlomo Solomon
That is certainly a possibility, but since the packets and the replies are between me and various routers on the way to the destination (and not directed at 019), I don't see the point. As I mentioned, only the final reply (from the destination) does not arrive - error replies from all the router o

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread אורי
019 might have disabled it for the same reason (security/DDOS) אורי u...@speedy.net On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 6:08 PM Shlomo Solomon wrote: > Thanks. > > 1 - I will send it dirr=ectly to you - not to the list. > > 2 - No - that is not the problem since it works when I connect via a > hotspot (i.e

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Thanks. 1 - I will send it dirr=ectly to you - not to the list. 2 - No - that is not the problem since it works when I connect via a hotspot (i.e. a different ISP). When I use my "regular" 019 connection, I get: sudo python tmp1.py www.google.com 1 10.0.0.138 0.047 2 10.64.0.250 0.038 3 10.64.0.

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Thanks. Forgot to mention that I DID try the code at school and it works - high school - not university :-) I don't want to go to the time and expense of using a cloud server. I want this to work at home as it has worked for many years :-) On Sun, 19 May 2024 17:49:06 +0300 Shay Gover wrote:

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread אורי
Hi Shlomo, 1. Send me the code and I will try to test it. 2. Are you sure there is a reply when your message reaches the destination? And does it depend on the destination? Some destinations may disable it for security reasons (DDOS attacks). Uri. אורי u...@speedy.net On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 5:

Re: off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shay Gover
Maybe use a vm on some random cloud service? Or better yet, use a university computer. On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 5:43 PM Shlomo Solomon wrote: > I teach computer networking and the latest assignment I gave my > students was to use Python and Scapy to emmulate traceroute. The code > is simple: > -

off topic (but I don't know who to ask) - probably?? ISP problem

2024-05-19 Thread Shlomo Solomon
I teach computer networking and the latest assignment I gave my students was to use Python and Scapy to emmulate traceroute. The code is simple: - send an ICMP packet with TTL = 1 which will fail but return the first hop address - continue sending ICMP packets - each time increasing the TTL to ge

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-11 Thread Steve G.
Wow, some of these devices are powerful enough to recharge a car battery (and weigh accordingly). Clearly they target multiple markets - one for the light traveler, who want something to keep using his/her phone or Kindle during the day without disruptions, and one for heavy users who need to run

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-11 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Steve G. wrote: > Thanks for all the advice. I particularly like the Zaggspark 6000. It is not > too heavy and can handle a number of devices quickly and at once. > > I will check if they carry something like it at Office Depot (I am talking > Tel Aviv), and if not

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-11 Thread Guy Gold
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Doron Shikmoni wrote: >Guy, >Are you sure these pods are rechargeable? My feeling from reading their text is that they're not, or at least I couldn't find any mention of their being recharged. It only talks about recharging >your gear. Hi Doron, Thanks for point

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-09 Thread Guy Gold
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Steve G. wrote: > > Is there a device that can be used as an external battery and/or charger > for these toys? So when their battery runs out, I can plug the external > battery through the device's USB connector and continue to use it/charge > it? > Hi Steve, Thi

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-09 Thread vordoo
OK, go it! The the Galaxy's battery is > 1500 mAh. Sorry, :-) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-08 Thread Michael Shiloh
mAh is a measure of the capacity to deliver that voltage. You know a battery doesn't last forever. If you suck a lot of current out of it, it will empty sooner. If you suck only a little current, it will last longer. mAh is "milli Amp Hours", so a 1500 mAh cell can deliver 1500 mA for one ho

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-08 Thread vordoo
On 2013-01-05 21:53, Shlomo Solomon wrote: Ther are cheaper ones on e-bay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2800mAh-External-Backup-Battery-Charger-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-GT-N7000-i9220-/110787029613?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19cb6bea6d I have a similar one marked as 15

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-05 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Ther are cheaper ones on e-bay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2800mAh-External-Backup-Battery-Charger-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-GT-N7000-i9220-/110787029613?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19cb6bea6d I have a similar one marked as 1500 mAh that gives my Galaxy S a 50-60% charge. So since this is marked 2800 mAh,

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-05 Thread Steve G.
Thanks for all the advice. I particularly like the Zaggspark 6000. It is not too heavy and can handle a number of devices quickly and at once. I will check if they carry something like it at Office Depot (I am talking Tel Aviv), and if not check whether it makes sense sending it here from the US.

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-05 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
Thinkgeek carries a wide variety, some with solar cells to re-charge the battery. And I think by now it's mainstream enough that you can also find it on amazon. שבוע טוב, Eliyahu - אליהו 2013/1/5 shimi : > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steve G. wrote: >> >> There is a whole lot of devices th

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-05 Thread shimi
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steve G. wrote: > There is a whole lot of devices that are capable of being charged through > a USB port - smart phones, iPod, iPad, Kindle and similar readers, etc. > > Is there a device that can be used as an external battery and/or charger > for these toys? So w

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-05 Thread Guy Corem
Many. For example: http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php Guy Corem Nop90 (2007) Ltd. Mobile: +972-50-7321946 Fax: 153-50-7321946 email: g...@nop90.com web: http://www.nop90.com On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Steve G. wrote: > There is a whole lot of devices that are capable of being

Re: Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 01/05/2013 01:48 PM, Steve G. wrote: > There is a whole lot of devices that are capable of being charged > through a USB port - smart phones, iPod, iPad, Kindle and similar > readers, etc. > > Is there a device that can be used as an external battery and/or > charger for these toys? So when thei

Off topic, but only a little since it's about hardware

2013-01-05 Thread Steve G.
There is a whole lot of devices that are capable of being charged through a USB port - smart phones, iPod, iPad, Kindle and similar readers, etc. Is there a device that can be used as an external battery and/or charger for these toys? So when their battery runs out, I can plug the external battery

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-27 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 12:49:35AM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > .. and... > what application on Windows can be used to burn ISO's? (I am asking for Rafi, > as I think I will be able to find one suitable for me). Almost all burning apps I have seen have an option for this. Sometimes it's a bit

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-26 Thread Diego Iastrubni
בשבת, 25 בדצמבר 2004, 23:27, כתבת: > I hope someone living close to you will help with this. If you get no > such offer in, say, a week, I suggest you write again, and maybe people > living further would decide to help. dont worry, be happy, I already contacted Rafi :) >However, if you are interes

RE: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-26 Thread Tzahi Fadida
Hi rafi, I am curious, how can you see a GUI when you need to develop one since I think this is the main hurdle when you can't see graphics. In addition, in my work I many time use case tools for UML, ERD and other diagrams. What case tools do you use that supports braille? And last, does it matter

RE: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-26 Thread Rafi Cohen
processor, instead of just an editor is another example. Rafi. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 10:15 AM > To: linux-il@linux.org.il > Subject: Re: this may sound somewha

FW: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-26 Thread Rafi Cohen
; To: Ira Abramov > Subject: RE: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read > > > Hi Ira, I need to correct you. With my braile display, I use vi > and emacs very extensively. > For mail reading, I use pine. > concerning the quotes from previous mails, one of the butto

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-26 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 10:15:23AM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [snip] > For instance: I would check 'nmh' or even 'mail' for mailing, as it is You can also look at 'nail', a 'mail' replacement, with many new features. -- Didi = To

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 03:14:43AM +0200, Rafi Cohen wrote: > 3. Concerning Linux: there are 2 options, one being a text only mode and the > other, X-Windows. > For the text mode, there is an open source driver supporting nerly all the > existing braile displays and it's called brltty. you may fin

RE: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-25 Thread Rafi Cohen
. > -Original Message- > From: Shaul Karl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 1:04 AM > To: Rafi Cohen > Cc: linux-il@linux.org.il > Subject: Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read > > > On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 10:02:29PM

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-25 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shaul Karl, from the post of Sun, 26 Dec: > What is a braille display? I mean, how it looks, how the user > interacts with it, how does it cope with something other then letters? If memory serves those interfaces "display" in Braille two or three lines of a terminal I'd assume it work

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 01:03:38AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 10:02:29PM +0200, Rafi Cohen wrote: > > I'm using a braile display to interact with the computers. > > > What is a braille display? I mean, how it looks, how the user > interacts with it, how does it cope wit

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-25 Thread Diego Iastrubni
בשבת, 25 בדצמבר 2004, 23:27, כתבת: > I hope someone living close to you will help with this. If you get no > such offer in, say, a week, I suggest you write again, and maybe people > living further would decide to help. dont worry, be happy, I already contacted Rafi :) >However, if you are interes

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-25 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 10:02:29PM +0200, Rafi Cohen wrote: > I'm using a braile display to interact with the computers. What is a braille display? I mean, how it looks, how the user interacts with it, how does it cope with something other then letters? How does it refreshes the display? What

Re: this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-25 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
Hi Rafi, No need to defend. This is on-topic as it can be. On Sat, Dec 25, 2004 at 10:02:29PM +0200, Rafi Cohen wrote: > Hello, I'm a software engineer and have some years of experience developping > in the Unix/Linux environment, both as an employee and a freelancer. > Since I always had a compu

this may sound somewhat off-topic, but please read

2004-12-25 Thread Rafi Cohen
Hello, I'm a software engineer and have some years of experience developping in the Unix/Linux environment, both as an employee and a freelancer. Since I always had a computer from the company with Linux already installed, I did not bother installing a Linux system on my home computer. Now,

Off topic... But ...

2000-09-29 Thread Doron Barzilay
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Re: OFF TOPIC - but importent, i think.....

1999-01-03 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Mike wrote: > Hi. > Lately there is lots of ppl that ask question (me between them) that > might should not be posted to the whole list. Good to see that a constructive solution to the clueless newbies probem is being looked for. > Is there an option to open a sub maling li

OFF TOPIC - but importent, i think.....

1999-01-03 Thread Mike
Hi. Lately there is lots of ppl that ask question (me between them) that might should not be posted to the whole list. Is there an option to open a sub maling lists about specific issues ? Or maybe we can build a page in the linux-il web page that will contain those who like to help on specific is