Re[2]: OT: Revolution Vs Reform

2003-01-23 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Which one of these definitions does Lenin fall under? > > > > ?! b), of course. Why would somebody in a sane mind dispute this nowadays? > > Now, weren't the ideas revolutionary? Which ideas? Marx's social theories? They're as revolutionary as th

Re: OT: Revolution Vs Reform

2003-01-22 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Evgeny Stambulchik on Wed, Jan 22, 2003: > Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quoth Evgeny Stambulchik on Tue, Jan 21, 2003: > > > Hmm, depends what is a "revolutionary". Either > > > > > > a) an author/follower/supporter of a revolutionary idea/theory > > > > > > or > > >

Re[2]: OT: Revolution Vs Reform

2003-01-22 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Vadim Vygonets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoth Evgeny Stambulchik on Tue, Jan 21, 2003: > > Hmm, depends what is a "revolutionary". Either > > > > a) an author/follower/supporter of a revolutionary idea/theory > > > > or > > > > b) a person who implements an idea by "revolutionary" (r

Re: OT: Revolution Vs Reform

2003-01-21 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Evgeny Stambulchik on Tue, Jan 21, 2003: > Hmm, depends what is a "revolutionary". Either > > a) an author/follower/supporter of a revolutionary idea/theory > > or > > b) a person who implements an idea by "revolutionary" (read here: brute > force, terror,...) methods > > I personally be

Re: OT: Revolution Vs Reform

2003-01-21 Thread Evgeny Stambulchik
Guy Baruch wrote: I think rms and the FSF guys are revolutionaries, while OS guys are reformers. Hmm, depends what is a "revolutionary". Either a) an author/follower/supporter of a revolutionary idea/theory or b) a person who implements an idea by "revolutionary" (read here: brute force, te

Re: OT: Revolution Vs Reform

2003-01-20 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Vadim Vygonets wrote: (posted to list) > I usually release my stuff under the two-clause BSD license. But the univeristy may have a different view Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd, R.M.P.E House, 10 Hartom St. Har Hotzvim Jerusalem, 91450 Israel Tel: +972

Re: OT: Revolution Vs Reform

2003-01-20 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Guy Baruch on Mon, Jan 20, 2003: > I think rms and the FSF guys are revolutionaries, while OS guys are > reformers. [...] > Thus, OS guys try to write open software not just because open standards > are > better technically, but because of ideology. They, however, do not want > to throw >

OT: Revolution Vs Reform

2003-01-20 Thread Guy Baruch
I think rms and the FSF guys are revolutionaries, while OS guys are reformers. A revolutionary look at the defects of the current system (in this case, potential exploit of proprietary software in terms of human freedom ) and decides to destroy and rebuild (in this case, abolish _ALL_ propriet