Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-18 Thread mulix
On 18 Mar 2001, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > "mulix" == mulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > mulix> well, based on this discussion, my general nostalgic mood > mulix> and tzafrir's suggestion, i've set up last night a small > mulix> local news server called leafnode. > > What are

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-18 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
> "mulix" == mulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mulix> well, based on this discussion, my general nostalgic mood mulix> and tzafrir's suggestion, i've set up last night a small mulix> local news server called leafnode. it is especially mulix> suitable for small sites, with

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No it doesn't. My point was that it is not practical to have an unsorted > (by sorted I mean divided up into the different mailing lists) inbox with > all the mailing lists combined and read them all as one big mess (think > about being away for a few

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-18 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Mar 18, 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about "Re: Netvision NNTP Server": > "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Actually, having mailing list mail land directly in my inbox has long ago > > become an unworkable solution. I get r

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, having mailing list mail land directly in my inbox has long ago > become an unworkable solution. I get roughly 100-200 messages a day from > 50 mailing lists, and it is impossible and extremely confusing to go through > them in one huge inbox

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-17 Thread mulix
On Sun, 18 Mar 2001, guy keren wrote: > hmm, maybe i should go back to reading usenet again ;) well, based on this discussion, my general nostalgic mood and tzafrir's suggestion, i've set up last night a small local news server called leafnode. it is especially suitable for small sites, with a d

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-17 Thread guy keren
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: > Coming to think about it, haven't you just described some major problems of > the news service? shaul - what you describe below is _good_ things about usenet. not bad things at all. read what you wrote - maybe it's just me who don't understand your point

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-17 Thread mulix
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Sat, Mar 17, 2001, mulix wrote about "Re: Netvision NNTP Server": > > we have been skirting around the main issue, imho. mailing lists are just > > more comfortable, since they land directly in your inbox. > >

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sat, Mar 17, 2001, mulix wrote about "Re: Netvision NNTP Server": > > People are also more inclined to start a mailing lists (especially when free > > services like egroups are available) because it gives them some flattering > > sense of control. > > we

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-17 Thread mulix
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote: > In the last several years newsgroups are becoming less and less useful, and > mailing lists are taking over. Even for huge subscriber-base (e.g., bugtraq) > mailing lists are winning. no argument from me here. i spend several minutes each day going over

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sat, Mar 17, 2001, mulix wrote about "Re: Netvision NNTP Server": > no. mailing lists and news groups differ pretty much only in the method of > information retrieval- push vs. pull. there are mailing list <-> news > gateways, too. > > the biggest problem ne

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-17 Thread mulix
On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: > Coming to think about it, haven't you just described some major problems of > the news service? > 1) People are using http combined with search utilities to look on-line in the > huge bank of information that was gathered by news messages, thus enabling

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-16 Thread Shaul Karl
> > On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Shaul Karl wrote: > > > Aren't text-mode-no-fancy-multimedia-old-fashioned-news out of fashion? > > Just curious how many people still use news these days. > > what do you care about "fasion"? they are still a very good option to > discuss very specific issues with peop

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Aren't text-mode-no-fancy-multimedia-old-fashioned-news out of fashion? > Just curious how many people still use news these days. Just try it - you'll find there are quite a few of us... ;-) -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, a

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-15 Thread Shaul Karl
> > Hi. > > I suppose this is somewhat OT, but none the less > Aren't text-mode-no-fancy-multimedia-old-fashioned-news out of fashion? Just curious how many people still use news these days. > > Does anyone out there use Netvision's NNTP server > (news.netvision.net.il) ? > > I have

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-14 Thread guy keren
On 14 Mar 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Can anyone recommend a free publicNNTP server that has a decent > collection of comp. and sci. groups? Not so long ago I found a few > lists of free NNTP servers through Google (can't find the URLs at the > moment), but the few I tried didn't work at all.

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-14 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because he was looking for an NNTP (network NEWS transfer protocol) server, > not a NTP (network TIME protocol) server ;) > > I think most ISPs have NNTP servers that you can try using, but I don't know > how good they are, or if they allow people out

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-14 Thread Nadav Har'El
ample, news.barak.net.il. On Wed, Mar 14, 2001, Schlomo Schapiro wrote about "Re: Netvision NNTP Server": > Why not use ntp.ac.il or ntp.huji.ac.il ? > > Schlomo > > On 14 Mar 2001, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > I suppose this

Re: Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-14 Thread Schlomo Schapiro
Why not use ntp.ac.il or ntp.huji.ac.il ? Schlomo On 14 Mar 2001, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > Hi. > > I suppose this is somewhat OT, but none the less > > > Does anyone out there use Netvision's NNTP server > (news.netvision.net.il) ? > > I have been using it for quite a while, but in

Netvision NNTP Server

2001-03-14 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Hi. I suppose this is somewhat OT, but none the less Does anyone out there use Netvision's NNTP server (news.netvision.net.il) ? I have been using it for quite a while, but in the past few days it has become WAY out of date - basically no updates for three days. I talked to their techni