Re: Was 'MySQL etc hardware whines': now some facts

2007-03-25 Thread Peter
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Shlomi Fish wrote: Seriously now - what can we do to get rid of the fact that a single architecture controlls most of the market, and it sucks. Here's what. Why is the x86 problem? That's why: There is no 'x86' problem. There is a marketing/market driven spiral called 'th

Re: MySQL etc hardware whines

2007-03-22 Thread Peter
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, guy keren wrote: Peter wrote: Afaik the fastest servers (including Google and many others) do not use SQL for anything. An optimized hash table (tiered etc) should work much better than any SQL. funny you should mention google - because all their computers that run the

Re: MySQL etc hardware whines

2007-03-22 Thread guy keren
Geoff - when it will be _you_ who manage to run a multi-billion company, and not google, i'll listen to you, rather then look at what they did. the fact is - there are ways to use cheap hardware to get a reliable, scaleable and maintainable service. i only wanted to bring a counter-example t

Re: MySQL etc hardware whines

2007-03-22 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:03:51PM +0200, guy keren wrote: > they use a replicating file-system + lots of communicatoins redundancy + > monitoring software + lots of technicians and spare parts, to get the > reliability they want. I see two problems with that. One is that the average technician

Re: MySQL etc hardware whines

2007-03-22 Thread guy keren
Peter wrote: Afaik the fastest servers (including Google and many others) do not use SQL for anything. An optimized hash table (tiered etc) should work much better than any SQL. funny you should mention google - because all their computers that run the google sites, are no-name 1U and 2U

Re: MySQL etc hardware whines

2007-03-21 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thursday 22 March 2007, Peter wrote: > I am not an expert in database servers but I know 2 or 3 things about > 'commodity' PC hardware. If you want to build a server by saving money > on hardware, don't. > > Go and buy a 2nd hand AS/400 and put Linux (or *BSD) on one of its > images and that's s

re: MySQL etc hardware whines

2007-03-21 Thread Peter
I am not an expert in database servers but I know 2 or 3 things about 'commodity' PC hardware. If you want to build a server by saving money on hardware, don't. Go and buy a 2nd hand AS/400 and put Linux (or *BSD) on one of its images and that's something that will work essentially forever.