Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-27 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > And once again I must say: "Don't think so 3rd layer, JeanLuke". > > I am not, number 1. hehehe... I think in the moviwe it was the Borg Queen that said that ;-) > > I was about to explain how to build a 2d level (OSI) bridiging proxy b

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
guy keren wrote: > _if_ at all one needs NAT for that... or NAT in _any_ classical sense of > the word (according to your broad definitions, any using of a proxy server > is actually an introduction of NAT, since not the original machine's > addres is being shown in the FROM address of the pack

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-27 Thread guy keren
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > maybe you should start thinking then ;) . if a "regular router" = cisco - > > then, yes, it can do that, and much more (depending on the version of its > > IOS). > > Maybe, but not as explained in your email. actually, _exactly_ as explained in m

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > And once again I must say: "Don't think so 3rd layer, JeanLuke". I am not, number 1. > > I was about to explain how to build a 2d level (OSI) bridiging proxy but > someone already did: > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/magpie/EtherDivert.html > > No extra hop, no need for an

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-27 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: > You will find that your solution forwards ALL outbound packets to the proxy > machine. Not just those aimed at port 80. You are then left with my original > problem - I don't want to penalise the entire office traffic with an extra hop > (actually - extra two hops and a

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi Guy and everyone, guy keren wrote: > maybe you should start thinking then ;) . if a "regular router" = cisco - > then, yes, it can do that, and much more (depending on the version of its > IOS). Maybe, but not as explained in your email. > > > this will done done with no address translation

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-24 Thread guy keren
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > What I see here is that I need to install on my router a rule that says, > more or less, "If the packet is destined to go to port 80 of any > machine, route it to the proxy, otherwise, route it usually". I don't > think a regular router can do such a

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > You know what, it's a border line case. Let's call it a draw ;-) > > Actually, I don't believe in draws. Either I need to route all my traffic through > the linux machine, or I don't. If I do - I don't care whether NAT is being > employed

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gavrie Philipson wrote: > GWhatever you call it, it's not something specific to Linux. I have no > experience with Checkpoint firewalls (IIRC, that's what Shachar > mentioned), but surely they can redirect a packet from one port to > another one? > > Gavrie. > > -- > Gavrie Philipson > Netmor A

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gavrie Philipson wrote: > Whatever you call it, it's not something specific to Linux. I have no > experience with Checkpoint firewalls (IIRC, that's what Shachar > mentioned), but surely they can redirect a packet from one port to > another one? > > Gavrie. > > -- > Gavrie Philipson > Netmor Ap

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > Ah... but this page specifically (item #7) instruct the seekers of > transparent proxies to turn on the *kernel* IPchains firewalling/NAT > code on and use it's transparent proxy option. What this option does is > rewriting packets going through the machine (the "for

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
> Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > > Gavrie Philipson wrote: > > > > > > Why would the router have to perform NAT? It just has to block outgoing > > > connections to port 80, and reroute them to the port that Squid listens > > > on. > > > > Routing the packets meant for the remote web server to the

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-23 Thread Gavrie Philipson
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > Gavrie Philipson wrote: > > Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > > Doesn't that require that the router handling all the traffic be a NAT > > > machine? At our place we currently have a CheckPoint FW-1 firewall, and I am > > > not sure that it supports transperant proxying (thou

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-23 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Gavrie Philipson wrote: > Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > Doesn't that require that the router handling all the traffic be a NAT > > machine? At our place we currently have a CheckPoint FW-1 firewall, and I am > > not sure that it supports transperant proxying (though it is quite possible > > that it d

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-23 Thread Gavrie Philipson
Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Doesn't that require that the router handling all the traffic be a NAT > machine? At our place we currently have a CheckPoint FW-1 firewall, and I am > not sure that it supports transperant proxying (though it is quite possible > that it does, Linux isn't the only solutio

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-22 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gavrie Philipson wrote: > If you have a large number of clients to configure, setting up a > transparent proxy is the way to go. This way, nothing has to be > configured on the clients at all. I use such a proxy at our company, and > use it to filter banner ads too BTW. > Docs to configure Squi

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-22 Thread Gavrie Philipson
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Erez Doron wrote: > > > hi > > > > I have a linux proxy (squid) and a linux dhcpd. > > > > how do i config a client MSIE to automaticaly find the proxy ? > > See the squid docs for some information about client autoconfiguration > (works for netscap

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Almogy
- Computer Dpt. +972-3-6901415 +972-52-562237 ~ - Original Message - From: "Erez Doron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ILUG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: MSIE automatic proxy config > hi > >

Re: MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Erez Doron wrote: > hi > > I have a linux proxy (squid) and a linux dhcpd. > > how do i config a client MSIE to automaticaly find the proxy ? See the squid docs for some information about client autoconfiguration (works for netscape and IE). For me this (together with a sa

MSIE automatic proxy config

2000-08-22 Thread Erez Doron
hi I have a linux proxy (squid) and a linux dhcpd. how do i config a client MSIE to automaticaly find the proxy ? thanks erez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g.,