Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:49:47AM +0200, Noam Rathaus wrote: > Hi, > > I got a few nice solutions, this is one of them, one thing missing, is > that I am looking for a centralized solution that will not be Distro > depened, or even OS deepened. It appears that at the moment there isn't one. Th

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-29 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 08:50:43AM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > >>>But do other distributions keep the Israeli timezone up-to-date out > >>>of the box? I didn't know about the link above and didn't have to go > >>> > >>> > > > >AFAIK that's impossible to keep

RE: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-29 Thread Noam Rathaus
m.com -Original Message- From: Tzahi Fadida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 20:42 To: Noam Rathaus; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings Hi noam, The problem is with your time zone settings in your Distro. Becau

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: But do other distributions keep the Israeli timezone up-to-date out of the box? I didn't know about the link above and didn't have to go AFAIK that's impossible to keep Israeli timezone up-to-date out of the box for a prolonged period of times - Israeli timezone is

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-27 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Shaul Karl on Sat, Sep 27, 2003: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 10:56:33PM -0400, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > > > Well, it has to count time from some point (the epoch), which > > happens to be 1990-01-01 00:00:00 UTC. And it counts it in > > seconds (or 2**-32 seconds). But it has no notion of a

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-27 Thread Shaul Karl
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 10:56:33PM -0400, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > Well, it has to count time from some point (the epoch), which > happens to be 1990-01-01 00:00:00 UTC. And it counts it in > seconds (or 2**-32 seconds). But it has no notion of any time > periods greater than a second (days, ye

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-27 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
>> But do other distributions keep the Israeli timezone up-to-date out >> of the box? I didn't know about the link above and didn't have to go AFAIK that's impossible to keep Israeli timezone up-to-date out of the box for a prolonged period of times - Israeli timezone is not fixed but set by the K

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-26 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Sep 26, 2003: > To be even more precise - *LOCAL* timezone is irrelevant, but NTP > must keep the time in SOME timezone so you can relate to it when > translating to a convenient timezone by date(1) and friends. That is > what UTC (a universal timezone, which happens

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-25 Thread linux-il
Vadim Vygonets wrote: Quoth Shachar Shemesh on Thu, Sep 25, 2003: NTP gives out the time in UTC/GMT/Zulu/whatever they call it now. To be precise, timezone is irrelevant in context of NTP. To be even more precise - *LOCAL* timezone is irrelevant, but NTP must keep the time in SOME timezon

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-25 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Shachar Shemesh on Thu, Sep 25, 2003: > NTP gives out the time in UTC/GMT/Zulu/whatever they call it now. To be precise, timezone is irrelevant in context of NTP. > I know, for my part, that the debian maintainers have been doing a > wonderful job of keeping my timezone info on my machine

RE: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-25 Thread Tzahi Fadida
see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Noam Rathaus > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Israeli NTP server with support

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-25 Thread Ariel Biener
On Thursday 25 September 2003 13:28, Noam Rathaus wrote: > Hi, > > Lately I heard rumors of the idea of changing the Day Light Savings from > +-1 hour to +-2 hours, and changing it on less of a regular basis that it > is now (I didn't notice it was on a regular basis ... It always appeared to > be

Re: Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-25 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Noam Rathaus wrote: Hi, Lately I heard rumors of the idea of changing the Day Light Savings from +-1 hour to +-2 hours, and changing it on less of a regular basis that it is now (I didn't notice it was on a regular basis ... It always appeared to be changing at random). Anyhow my question is whe

Israeli NTP server with support for Day Light Savings

2003-09-25 Thread Noam Rathaus
Hi, Lately I heard rumors of the idea of changing the Day Light Savings from +-1 hour to +-2 hours, and changing it on less of a regular basis that it is now (I didn't notice it was on a regular basis ... It always appeared to be changing at random). Anyhow my question is whether there is an Is