Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-20 Thread Oded Arbel
On Monday, 20 בFebruary 2006 15:58, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:58:20PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: > > On Monday, 20 �‘February 2006 12:46, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 02:03:22AM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: > > > > > > This naturally assumes that the user doe

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-20 Thread Meir Kriheli
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:58:20PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: >>> This naturally assumes that the user does not install a private copy >>> of the app. Which is a bit tougher in the case of firefox. And >>> frankly even in the case of OpenOffice. Both are rather >>> self-co

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:58:20PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: > On Monday, 20 בFebruary 2006 12:46, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 02:03:22AM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: > > This naturally assumes that the user does not install a private copy > > of the app. Which is a bit tougher in

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-20 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 01:58:20PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: > > This naturally assumes that the user does not install a private copy > > of the app. Which is a bit tougher in the case of firefox. And > > frankly even in the case of OpenOffice. Both are rather > > self-contained. > > Its the same p

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-20 Thread Oded Arbel
On Monday, 20 בFebruary 2006 12:46, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 02:03:22AM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: > > On Friday, 17 �‘February 2006 21:38, Omer Zak wrote: > > > In another Linux related mailing list, to which I am subscribed, > > > there is a discussion about the remaining road

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-20 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 02:03:22AM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote: > On Friday, 17 בFebruary 2006 21:38, Omer Zak wrote: > > In another Linux related mailing list, to which I am subscribed, > > there is a discussion about the remaining roadblocks on the route of > > widespread adoption of Linux by busines

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-19 Thread Oded Arbel
On Friday, 17 בFebruary 2006 21:38, Omer Zak wrote: > In another Linux related mailing list, to which I am subscribed, > there is a discussion about the remaining roadblocks on the route of > widespread adoption of Linux by businesses. > Turns out that IE has configuration options, which allow the

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-19 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 10:23:35AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 03:30:14PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 01:37:47PM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > >> Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>> However, when a directory is protected, then t

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-19 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006, Oron Peled wrote about "Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE": > On Saturday, 18 �‘February 2006 02:24, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > ... Why on earth does the bookmarks file > > have world execute (or read, for that matter) access?

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-19 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 03:30:14PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 01:37:47PM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: >> Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> However, when a directory is protected, then the files inside it are >>> protected as well. >> Not quite true. > [EMAIL

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-19 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006, Omer Zak wrote about "Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE": >... > However, when business grows beyond the 5-people stage and needs its own > sysadmin and system administration policies, it becomes necessary for > the sysadmin to be able to

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 13:37 +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: >> Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe you could modify files because the other user, which you used, > belonged to the same group? That's what I wrote before. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-18 Thread Oron Peled
On Saturday, 18 בFebruary 2006 02:24, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > ... Why on earth does the bookmarks file > have world execute (or read, for that matter) access? > ... > -rwxr-xr-x 1 oleg users 182626 Jan 16 16:06 bookmarks.html What is your umask? Maybe you simply have umask of 022 (very common c

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 02:24:49AM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > users can be prevented from changing home page, > > Out of curiosity: what exactly does this contribute to workstation > security? Security is, as we all know, a noble goal for which peo

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 01:37:47PM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > However, when a directory is protected, then the files inside it are > > protected as well. > > Not quite true. > > For instance, I just did a quick check. While the actual profile

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 13:37 +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > However, when a directory is protected, then the files inside it are > > protected as well. > > Not quite true. > > For instance, I just did a quick check. While the actual profile > direc

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However, when a directory is protected, then the files inside it are > protected as well. Not quite true. For instance, I just did a quick check. While the actual profile directory is 700, the upper level directories (e.g., ~/.mozilla/firefox) are group-

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-17 Thread Omer Zak
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 02:24 +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > users can be prevented from changing home page, > > Out of curiosity: what exactly does this contribute to workstation > security? It does not contribute to workstation security per se, but mak

Re: Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > users can be prevented from changing home page, Out of curiosity: what exactly does this contribute to workstation security? Another thing I just did out of curiosity was to check permissions on various files in the default Firefox profile on my home comput

Helping Linux move into business: FireFox vs. IE

2006-02-17 Thread Omer Zak
In another Linux related mailing list, to which I am subscribed, there is a discussion about the remaining roadblocks on the route of widespread adoption of Linux by businesses. It was said that for 1-person business, Linux is now very good solution. However, when business grows beyond the 5-peopl