Re: gentoo hebrew

2006-09-30 Thread Meir Kriheli
Aaron wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a step by step guide for setting up hebrew on Gentoo? > > Thanks > Aaron Hi Aaron, 1. generate locales: edit /etc/locale.gen . Add your desired locales in there. Mine includes: en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 he_IL.UTF-8 UTF-8 he_IL ISO-8859-8

gentoo hebrew

2006-09-30 Thread Aaron
Hi all, Is there a step by step guide for setting up hebrew on Gentoo? Thanks Aaron = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscr

Re: Gentoo is about to drop hspell support

2006-08-29 Thread Dan Armak
On Sunday 27 August 2006 22:37, Mycroft wrote: > It is not that I am reluctant to be the maintainer for hspell. There is > much more about being a full-blown Gentoo dev, other than version-bumping > the packages I use. As far as I know, you can choose the category to work > on, b

Re: Gentoo is about to drop hspell support

2006-08-27 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On 8/27/06, Michael Vasiliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMO, the bugzilla is not the place for arguments, but a place to fix things up. And there is no point in audit trail, since the treecleaners are the policeman, the judge and the executioner combined, having both the power of decision what pa

Re: Gentoo is about to drop hspell support

2006-08-27 Thread Michael Vasiliev
On Sunday August 27 2006 18:24, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > Hello Michael, > > I don't understand why you are writing this to us and not to gentoo > developers. You should discuss this on the bug track system, so there > will be an audit trail for this. [skip] > The fact that

Re: Gentoo is about to drop hspell support

2006-08-27 Thread Mycroft
On Sunday August 27 2006 11:24, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Michael Vasiliev wrote: > > I know that there is a lab of Gentoo in Haifa University (using their own > > overlay when it comes to hspell and KDE). Honestly, I'm a bit tired of > > Gentoo way of breaking^Wrunnin

Re: Gentoo is about to drop hspell support

2006-08-27 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Hello Michael, I don't understand why you are writing this to us and not to gentoo developers. You should discuss this on the bug track system, so there will be an audit trail for this. You can always have a local overlay for whatever you want. But this is not the right solution. Anyway

Re: Gentoo is about to drop hspell support

2006-08-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Michael Vasiliev wrote: > I know that there is a lab of Gentoo in Haifa University (using their own > overlay when it comes to hspell and KDE). Honestly, I'm a bit tired of Gentoo > way of breaking^Wrunning things, and Debian seems more and more appealing > every day. Let

Gentoo is about to drop hspell support

2006-08-26 Thread Michael Vasiliev
It has come to my attention (since I am CC-d on that particular bug) that Gentoo treeclean team is about to remove hspell from main Gentoo portage tree. I've responded immediately to team lead, Alec Warner, about it, and we're discussing it in private mail ever since. He suggests that

Re: Gentoo RTC problem ?

2005-07-06 Thread shimi
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 09:29 +0200, Baruch Shpirer wrote: > Hey > > Getting lotsa messages like the following: > > Jun 20 16:45:12 webapp1 Losing some ticks… checking if CPU frequency > changed. > > Jun 20 16:45:12 webapp1 Losing some ticks… checking if CPU frequency > changed. > > Jun 20 16:45:

Gentoo RTC problem ?

2005-07-06 Thread Baruch Shpirer
Title: Gentoo RTC problem ? Hey Getting lotsa messages like the following: Jun 20 16:45:12 webapp1 Losing some ticks… checking if CPU frequency changed. Jun 20 16:45:12 webapp1 Losing some ticks… checking if CPU frequency changed. Jun 20 16:45:12 webapp1 Losing some ticks… checking if

Re: iso-8869-8 xkb layout on a gentoo box

2004-05-11 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
one for a very long time, I've > > searched google, google groups, this list's archives, and even posted ib > > (two) gentoo forums, to no avail. Well, this is the problem: > > > > The 'il' keyboard layout in gentoo emits the hebrew charachters in the

Re: iso-8869-8 xkb layout on a gentoo box

2004-05-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 04:51:47PM +0300, Yosef Meller wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi guys, ma hamazav? > > I've been banging my head on this one for a very long time, I've > searched google, google groups, this list's archive

iso-8869-8 xkb layout on a gentoo box

2004-05-10 Thread Yosef Meller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi guys, ma hamazav? I've been banging my head on this one for a very long time, I've searched google, google groups, this list's archives, and even posted ib (two) gentoo forums, to no avail. Well, this is the problem: The 'il

Israeli Gentoo mirror

2004-03-28 Thread Leonid Podolny
Hi, list, Today I've paid attention there is an israeli download mirror for Gentoo at http://mirror.hamakor.org.il/pub/mirrors/gentoo/. Thought it will be useful to all the gentooers out there. L. = To unsubscribe,

An unexpected results when benchmarking Debian, Gentoo, Mandrake.

2003-08-11 Thread Shaul Karl
ce between these Linux distros. We certainly expected Gentoo to lead the tests, which has not been the case. -- Shaul Karl,shaul @ actcom . net . il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: An unexpected results when benchmarking Debian, Gentoo, Mandrake.

2003-08-06 Thread Diego Iastrubni
saw that... I would like to do some tests of my own... but my gentoo is compiled for athlon and -O3. What there would you like to see? Lets make it "on demand..." ביום רביעי, 6 באוגוסט 2003, 07:31, Shaul Karl כתב: > I don't like benchmarking because it looks as black MAGI

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-06 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 02:12:50PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > > > hmmm, very strange, locale on latest gentoo dont have Hebrew UTF > > > > > > the version is: (GNU libc) 2.3.1 > > > > > > Maybe this effect the Xkb ? > > > >

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-04 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
> > hmmm, very strange, locale on latest gentoo dont have Hebrew UTF > > > > the version is: (GNU libc) 2.3.1 > > > > Maybe this effect the Xkb ? > > > > locale -a|grep utf > > ar_IN.utf8 > > en_IN.utf8 > > fa_IR.utf8 > > hi_I

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:07:14PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > http://syscalltrack.sf.net > > Thanks. Sounds like just what I was after, including a Debian > package. The debian package is badly out of date... I really recommend compiling from source. > For instance, from reading the

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-03 Thread linux_il
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 11:10:45AM +0300, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:56:29AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What was that syscalltrace? > > http://syscalltrack.sf.net Thanks. Sounds like just what I was after, including a Debian package. > > > I'm looking for tool

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-03 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:56:29AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:42:51AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > > (Ok, I know we can trap acceess to it via syscalltrace but) > > What was that syscalltrace? http://syscalltrack.sf.net > I'm looking for tools in that area and

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-03 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Can you explain me or even better point me to some documents that can explain how can I generate a new locale ? I tried to search over the internet for a document that will explain me what exactly is i18n / locale and how is it implanted on the system. does any one know of such document ? > > Gen

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-03 Thread linux_il
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:42:51AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > (Ok, I know we can trap acceess to it via syscalltrace but) What was that syscalltrace? I'm looking for tools in that area and couldn't find such a program in google or otherwise (specifically - I'm thinking of something which will

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:42:51AM +0300, Oron Peled wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:54:18 +0300 > Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But then I tried to locate the locale files, I found none, ascept > > /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive > > First time I bumped into this file. Thought it

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-02 Thread Oron Peled
On Thu, 03 Jul 2003 00:54:18 +0300 Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But then I tried to locate the locale files, I found none, ascept > /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive First time I bumped into this file. Thought it might be some gzipped tar or something, but guess what? $ file /usr/li

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-02 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 07:34:10PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > hmmm, very strange, locale on latest gentoo dont have Hebrew UTF > > the version is: (GNU libc) 2.3.1 > > Maybe this effect the Xkb ? > > locale -a|grep utf > ar_IN.utf8 > en_IN.utf8 > fa_IR.

Re: Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-02 Thread Diego Iastrubni
mmm, very strange, locale on latest gentoo dont have Hebrew UTF > > the version is: (GNU libc) 2.3.1 > > Maybe this effect the Xkb ? > > locale -a|grep utf > ar_IN.utf8 > en_IN.utf8 > fa_IR.utf8 > hi_IN.utf8 > ko_KR.utf8 > mr_IN.utf8 > se_NO.utf8 > ta_IN.utf8

Strange Locale ( was Re: gentoo and Xkb )

2003-07-02 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
hmmm, very strange, locale on latest gentoo dont have Hebrew UTF the version is: (GNU libc) 2.3.1 Maybe this effect the Xkb ? locale -a|grep utf ar_IN.utf8 en_IN.utf8 fa_IR.utf8 hi_IN.utf8 ko_KR.utf8 mr_IN.utf8 se_NO.utf8 ta_IN.utf8 te_IN.utf8 ur_PK.utf8 vi_VN.utf8 ar exist but he is dumped

Re: gentoo and Xkb

2003-06-30 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 06:57:12PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > none work :( > > nor itay nor tzafrir solution. > > Maybe the layout is missing or i compiled X without something ? Nah, this can't be it. But if you want to check: On my display: xdpyinfo |grep XKEY XKEYBOARD Anyway, my

Re: gentoo and Xkb

2003-06-30 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
-- - Original Message - From: "Tzafrir Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ben-Nes Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: gentoo and Xkb > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 06:18:44PM +0200

Re: gentoo and Xkb

2003-06-30 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 06:18:44PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Hi > > I installed Gentoo and configured X to use XkbLayout="il" but on X i can > only type Numbers. > > Only replacing "il" with "us" help :( > > Any ideas ? Are you us

Re: gentoo and Xkb

2003-06-30 Thread Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani
On Monday 30 June 2003 19:18, you wrote: > Hi > > I installed Gentoo and configured X to use XkbLayout="il" but on X i can > only type Numbers. > > Only replacing "il" with "us" help :( > > Any ideas ? Option "XkbLayout" &q

gentoo and Xkb

2003-06-30 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Hi I installed Gentoo and configured X to use XkbLayout="il" but on X i can only type Numbers. Only replacing "il" with "us" help :( Any ideas ? -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6

Segmentation fault while emerging tcsh in Gentoo

2003-06-03 Thread Itay 'z9u2K' Duvdevani
After successfully compiling tsch, emerge emits this message and quits without installing tsch: /usr/sbin/ebuild.sh: line 1177: 29937 Segmentation fault perl tcsh.man2html !!! ERROR: app-shells/tcsh-6.12-r2 failed. !!! Function src_install, Line 40, Exitcode 139 !!! (no error message) Is

Re: Gentoo distributes RPMs binaries?

2003-04-03 Thread Dan Armak
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 03 April 2003 18:07, Shaul Karl wrote: > I have just saw a short headline and did not parse it further. If I > got it correctly, from now on Gentoo will distribute RPMs, and abandon > their only source attitude. That was our

Gentoo distributes RPMs binaries?

2003-04-03 Thread Shaul Karl
I have just saw a short headline and did not parse it further. If I got it correctly, from now on Gentoo will distribute RPMs, and abandon their only source attitude. -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe

Re: Gentoo mirror in Israel ?

2003-03-25 Thread Tal Peer
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > Is it possible to establish a Gentoo mirror in Israel ? > Somewhere on IGLU ? > Instead of two almost same distributions (RH and Madrake) ? > > BTW I wonder how many people on this list are act

Re: Gentoo mirror in Israel ?

2003-03-25 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Michael Sternberg wrote: Is it possible to establish a Gentoo mirror in Israel ? Somewhere on IGLU ? Instead of two almost same distributions (RH and Madrake) ? No, because RH and Mandrake are more widly used than gentoo. What we MAY be able to do is to mirror gentoo in addition to the rest

Gentoo mirror in Israel ?

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Sternberg
Is it possible to establish a Gentoo mirror in Israel ? Somewhere on IGLU ? Instead of two almost same distributions (RH and Madrake) ? BTW I wonder how many people on this list are actually using Gentoo.. Michael

Re: Gentoo live on cyrix 300

2003-03-03 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 10:04:57AM +0200, Assaf Flatto wrote: > Thanks for the info. > I decided to try and do a regular debian 3.0.1 on that machine and it > went quite well. > The problem arose when i tried to cennect it to the net . > I have an ADSL gateway in my home and when i tried to config

RE: Gentoo live on cyrix 300

2003-03-03 Thread Assaf Flatto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Gentoo live on cyrix 300 > > > On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:52, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > > If you're going to install Linux on it, use one of those > variant Linux > > distributions and NOT Red Hat 8.x or Mandrake 9.x ! You > cannot

Re: Gentoo live on cyrix 300

2003-03-02 Thread Alex Shnitman
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 15:52, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > If you're going to install Linux on it, use one of those variant Linux > distributions and NOT Red Hat 8.x or Mandrake 9.x ! You cannot even boot them > since they're optimized for i586 - and your Cyrix barely passes the 486 > (although it's o

Re: Gentoo live on cyrix 300

2003-03-02 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Saturday 01 March 2003 10:47 am, Assaf Flatto wrote: > Hi > > I tired to install the gentoo /unreal 1.4.1 live on a cyrix 300 machine > with 256MB RAM and a 8GB HDD . Now WHY would a sane person tries to install a distribution which needs to compile itself in order to optimize?

Gentoo live on cyrix 300

2003-03-02 Thread Assaf Flatto
Hi I tired to install the gentoo /unreal 1.4.1 live on a cyrix 300 machine with 256MB RAM and a 8GB HDD . it went well until i got to the second tar ball and tried to bootstrap the system. I've been working with the install file that comes with the CD . i thought at fist that the probl

Gentoo mirror in Israel ?

2002-11-20 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Hi All   Any Gentoo mirror in Israel ?

RE: Hebrew keymap in Gentoo

2002-11-04 Thread Martin Polley
2002 11:06 AM To: Martin Polley Cc: Linux IL Subject: Re: Hebrew keymap in Gentoo On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Martin Polley wrote: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know how to get the Hebrew keymap working in Gentoo (so > that I can type in Hebrew in KDE). > > I have edited the KEYMAP var

Re: Hebrew keymap in Gentoo

2002-11-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Martin Polley wrote: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know how to get the Hebrew keymap working in Gentoo (so that > I can type in Hebrew in KDE). > > I have edited the KEYMAP variable in /etc/rc.conf, Does this apply to the console keymap? This one is different

Re: Hebrew keymap in Gentoo

2002-11-03 Thread Barak Kaufman
ame of the keymap (for hebrew id assume it would be he) reassing the keymaps in the kde utility and it works. good luck On Sunday 03 November 2002 10:24, Martin Polley wrote: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone know how to get the Hebrew keymap working in Gentoo (so that > I can type in Hebr

Hebrew keymap in Gentoo

2002-11-03 Thread Martin Polley
Hi folks, Does anyone know how to get the Hebrew keymap working in Gentoo (so that I can type in Hebrew in KDE). I have edited the KEYMAP variable in /etc/rc.conf, and added Hebrew and the 'il' keyboard in KDE, but I can still only type in English (even when the keyboard applet shows

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-24 Thread Michael Stolovitzsky
On Thursday 24 October 2002 15:45, Barak Kaufman wrote: > Hello list > following the discussion about how great (or not) gentoo is , i decided to > give it a try and install it on my laptop. > i went to gentoo.org and grabbed the livecd-basic-1.4_rc1-r2 image (it was > the only cd

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-24 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Thursday 24 October 2002 04:27, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:51:27AM +, Meir Kriheli wrote: > > I apply other optimization as well to my system including > > -fomit-frame-pointer > > -funroll-loops -falign-functions=4 etc. Note that this will result in > > larger binar

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-24 Thread Alex Veber
Meir Kriheli wrote: On Wednesday 23 October 2002 20:35, Diego Iastrubni wrote: áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 02:08, Meir Kriheli ëúá: Something gone wrong here. kde 3.X should load faster than 2.2.2 (and it does here). This times are closer to the Gentoo I run on a machine at the office

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-24 Thread Alex Veber
Eli Marmor wrote: Questions: == 1. Does anybody have results under VMware? (I'm not sure that the virtualization is optimal for i586/i686) 2. Has anybody experienced the Intel C Compiler? (not GCC) I heard that its results are amazing... 1. Dont have a clue. 2. ICC is fast, very f

Gentoo

2002-10-24 Thread Barak Kaufman
Hello list following the discussion about how great (or not) gentoo is , i decided to give it a try and install it on my laptop. i went to gentoo.org and grabbed the livecd-basic-1.4_rc1-r2 image (it was the only cd image available there) after booting off the cd on my laptop i was prepared to

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Thu, 24 Oct: > 2. If you use AMD (or Transmeta/Geode?), compile for i586 even if you >have i686-compatible processor (e.g. Athlon etc.). why not compile for athlon? I thought gcc knows how to optimize for it... -- |)0|\|7 /\/\355 \/\/1|O /\/\'/ /\/\4|)

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Eli Marmor
would be different (see 1...). 5. Since the default of most distros is i386 (including RH), most of us understood (mistakenly) that he compared i586/i686 with i386, and the thread went larger. 6. The reason for the "reverse" results of Diego: see 2 and 3. 7. When Gentoo mentioned

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:51:27AM +, Meir Kriheli wrote: > I apply other optimization as well to my system including > -fomit-frame-pointer > -funroll-loops -falign-functions=4 etc. Note that this will result in larger > binaries/libs. At least the 'omit-frame-pointer' part might make deb

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 20:35, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 02:08, Meir Kriheli ëúá: > > Something gone wrong here. kde 3.X should load faster than 2.2.2 (and it > > does here). > > > > This times are closer to the Gentoo I run on a machine

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
the word "if" and similar > > words that were used in my previous message), then it means that no > > progress has been achieved in the microprocessor industry for 15 years, > > except for more and more Hertz's. > again please read the message I sent you in private

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Diego Iastrubni
áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 02:08, Meir Kriheli ëúá: > Something gone wrong here. kde 3.X should load faster than 2.2.2 (and it > does here). > > This times are closer to the Gentoo I run on a machine at the office > (celleron 400 + 256MB) running kde 3.0.4, not to the hardwa

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Diego Iastrubni
áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 11:32, Ira Abramov ëúá: > Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Tue, 22 Oct: > because some people prefer "plain vanilla" with no extra optimizations. > that's what Gentoo is for - for the people who DO. > > and you'll be surprised, pp

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-23 Thread Diego Iastrubni
achieved in the microprocessor industry for 15 years, > except for more and more Hertz's. again please read the message I sent you in private, you will see my point of view. I started gentooing my mdk after the last debate on gentoo in which Tzafrir proposed the same he proposing now: optimi

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-22 Thread Michael Stolovitzsky
On Tuesday 22 October 2002 08:58, Oded Arbel wrote: > áéåí ùìéùé, 22 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 00:23, Michael Stolovitzsky ëúá òì 'Re: Gentoo': > > > yes.. do it with a 56kb modem... rigth... > > > > I did it, cant see a reason why anyone else wouldn't be able to >

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-22 Thread Ira Abramov
n't RH upgrade at least to i586 and still supports i386 ?! because some people prefer "plain vanilla" with no extra optimizations. that's what Gentoo is for - for the people who DO. and you'll be surprised, ppl still run a few 486 machines here and there. > But the r

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-22 Thread Eli Marmor
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > That is not exactly correct. > > Redhat provide kernel optimized for i386, i586, i686 and athlon, and glibc > for i386 i586 and i686 (not for athlon, right?). > > I figure that those two are not enough, and there is some extra value from > some other packages. But there is

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Eli Marmor wrote: > Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > > In precompiled kde 2.2.2 from mdk8.1 (i586) and self-compiled 3.1 (i686) I did > > not find any speed improove and in startup even a 5 seconds less: > > load -> kde2.2.2 10 sec, kde3.1 15sec > > konqui both about 2 secs. > > Do

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-21 Thread Oded Arbel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 áéåí ùìéùé, 22 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 00:23, Michael Stolovitzsky ëúá òì 'Re: Gentoo': > > yes.. do it with a 56kb modem... rigth... > > I did it, cant see a reason why anyone else wouldn't be able to Yes, but can you see a reas

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-21 Thread Eran Tromer
Eli Marmor wrote: > Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > In precompiled kde 2.2.2 from mdk8.1 (i586) and self-compiled 3.1 > > (i686) I did not find any speed improove and in startup even a 5 > > seconds less: > > load -> kde2.2.2 10 sec, kde3.1 15sec > > konqui both about 2 secs. > Do you mean that no pr

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-21 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 23:08, Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Mon, 21 Oct: > > > > Maybe after all, Mandrake's and Gentoo's utilizing the extra 586/686 > > abilities, is not a big deal. And maybe RedHat is right (in avoiding > > the 586/686 extra instructions and optimizat

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-21 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Eli Marmor wrote: > The real news is not 586 vs. 686; > The real story is both vs. 386. > Otherwise, Diego would not write his message. > And I would not respond. > > And please don't argue with me (Ira - you too); > I responded to Diego. > I assume that his results are accur

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-21 Thread Michael Stolovitzsky
ouldn't forget that the biggest performance benefit comes not from Gentoo's ability to apply optimizations globally but because of its configurability; you can forbid Gentoo to compile in certain features, thus drastically reducing the bloat in your applications (for example, I hate gnome and I

Re: Gentoo

2002-10-21 Thread Michael Stolovitzsky
On Monday 21 October 2002 21:54, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > áéåí ùðé 21 àå÷èåáø 2002, 14:38, Michael Stolovitzsky ëúá: > > I set up my Gentoo box with Antidesktop-like setup > > (http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/581/), using ion instead of > > ratpoison, xemacs, mlterm (http

RE: Gentoo install problem (GRUB problem?)

2002-09-21 Thread Martin Polley
Oleg wrote: >Heh, you can say that again, 1.4rc1 of Gentoo (aka latest) has that annoying bug that you should add init=/dev/hdX to the kernel line in >grub or you get kernel panic, and devfs is really not so good, lots of errors, read-only filesystem when it should be rw and so on. &

Re: Gentoo install problem (GRUB problem?)

2002-09-21 Thread Oleg
>Thanks for the input (and to Noam), but in the meantime I found the >solution to the problem. I just ran grub-install, and it worked fine. Oh, ok then. >I guess there are some cases that the Gentoo install instructions do not >cover... Heh, you can say that again, 1.4rc1 of Gentoo

RE: Gentoo install problem (GRUB problem?)

2002-09-21 Thread Martin Polley
found the solution to the problem. I just ran grub-install, and it worked fine. I guess there are some cases that the Gentoo install instructions do not cover... (Now I just have to get my Zoom Lucent winmodem working... It works OK under Redhat though, so I am hopeful.) Thanks again, Martin

Re: gentoo vs debian

2002-09-21 Thread Oded Arbel
alex khalil wrote: >Good Folks > > If both x86 and PowerPC architecture are relevant, why would one prefer >Gentoo over Debian? > > Me personally ? drop both and go with Mandrake - currently the best distro that does both architectures (Red Hat is the only other conten

Re: gentoo vs debian

2002-09-21 Thread Amir Tal
To: "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 10:12 AM > Subject: gentoo vs debian > > > Good Folks > > > > If both x86 and PowerPC architecture are relevant, why would one prefer &

Re: Gentoo install problem (GRUB problem?)

2002-09-21 Thread Oleg Kobets
> > grub > > root (hd2,0) > > setup (hd2) > > quit > > > > (My Gentoo install is on /dev/hdd, which comes out ad hd2 because of the > > CD burner on /dev/hdb). Then you just create an appropriate > > /boot/grub/menu.lst file. Have you created and

Re: gentoo vs debian

2002-09-21 Thread Oleg Kobets
optimization, speed, mazochistic notions :- That's about all. - Original Message - From: "alex khalil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 10:12 AM Subject: gentoo vs debian > G

gentoo vs debian

2002-09-21 Thread alex khalil
Good Folks If both x86 and PowerPC architecture are relevant, why would one prefer Gentoo over Debian? alex "no-flamefest-intended-but-hopping-in-asbestos-suit" khalil = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Gentoo install problem (GRUB problem?)

2002-09-20 Thread Noam Meltzer
: > I remember seeing a lively discussion on the list a few weeks ago about > Gentoo, so I figured at least a few people must have installed it :) > > I have installed the latest (v1.2 for i686) version using the stage 3 > tarball (I only have a dial-up connection...). I followed the &

Gentoo install problem (GRUB problem?)

2002-09-19 Thread Martin Polley
I remember seeing a lively discussion on the list a few weeks ago about Gentoo, so I figured at least a few people must have installed it :) I have installed the latest (v1.2 for i686) version using the stage 3 tarball (I only have a dial-up connection...). I followed the instructions to the

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-22 Thread Oleg Kobets
Hetz, Gentoo installation is difficult becouse you need to type a lot commands that newbie won't know and understand. BUT, creating a simple insterface that does that for him is relatively easy and I think that's what Linbrew guys should do. Oleg. - Original Message - From:

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-22 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew > > project, which is obviously also newbie-oriented. > > I'm not following this therad very much, but picking gentoo for linbrew?? > > like.. duh..

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-22 Thread Amir Tal
On Thursday 22 August 2002 00:04, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew > > project, which is obviously also newbie-oriented. > > I'm not following this therad very much, but picking gentoo for linbrew?? > > li

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, "Oleg Kobets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Moshe, stop flaming other distros I'm pointing out flaws. > it's not nice. And here I was, thinking pointing out flaws for people to be aware of is a nice thing. > Gentoo is nice too, Deb

Former light distro - Gentoo thread

2002-08-21 Thread Meir Kriheli
Since the thread mentioned in the subject deteriorated to inflametory content and seems like a waste of time for linux-il users, I'm not going to comment on it anymore here (apologies to anyone agitated by it). I'll be glad to discuss that thread and the choice to base linBrew on Gen

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Gentoo has been selected by you as the distro for the current Linbrew > project, which is obviously also newbie-oriented. I'm not following this therad very much, but picking gentoo for linbrew?? like.. duh.. hello... the users who wants hebrew Linux (not talking about hebrew su

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
ight > defending his fort. Frankly: because I sense the same feeling of superiority from gentoo people, and often it is coupled with ignorance. For example: I often see the following quoted as an atvantage of gentoo: * Gentoo has no dependency madness * Gentoo is much faster I can spen

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Oleg Kobets
Moshe, stop flaming other distros, it's not nice. I am a Debian lover as yourself and btw, I run woody on production server for almoust 6 months now and I never complained. Gentoo is nice too, Debian should get some of the Gentoo's emerge abilities, such as --pretend switches, build fro

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Meir Kriheli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian (or Gentoo or any other distro) is not the end all be all of=20 > distributions. Any distro has an intendend audience and niche (some larger > than others). If someone does not fit your niche, fine - OK. You don

reasoning (was: gentoo (was: lite distributions))

2002-08-21 Thread Orna Agmon
Actually, there is a reasoning for doing both. People who are interested in their OS as a working tool would be satisfied by less than 100% performance, if achieving more compatibility means they have to spend too much time installing and learning. (achieving low maintainance) People would

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Meir Kriheli
ut throwing FUD or unbased assumptions (hearsay doesn't count) and conduct a civil discussion please leave it to someone who can. Debian (or Gentoo or any other distro) is not the end all be all of distributions. Any distro has an intendend audience and niche (some larger than others). If

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Moshe Zadka
supprt (which allows docking) > in > site. Those are the little things that make a distro polished. With Gentoo > it > is not a problem, Because Gentoo sends packages fresh from the upstream to the users without checking everything works together. Note the emphasis "works *togethe

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-21 Thread Meir Kriheli
> > take vim in Debian. If you install vim lipgpm will be installed as > > > > well. I hate gpm and never use it, don't want the stuff on my > > > > system.With Debian you have no choice. With Gentoo you can set > > > > USE="-gpm" bef

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Tuesday 20 August 2002 20:54, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > To exact: > > - kernel, 2.4.19? special patches offered? > > Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?) > their kernel ma

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 23:54, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?) > their kernel maintainer(s) on irc a few weeks ago, and his method of > testing new kernels

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:01:45PM +0300, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > To exact: > - kernel, 2.4.19? special patches offered? Interesting tidbit re gentoo kernels: I had a chat with (one of?) their kernel maintainer(s) on irc a few weeks ago, and his method of testing new kernels was &quo

Re: gentoo (was: lite distributions)

2002-08-20 Thread Diego Iastrubni
áéåí ùìéùé, 20 áàåâåñè 2002, 09:13, Tzafrir Cohen ëúá: > Allow to to suggest a different route to the same goal: > > install {Your-Favorite-Binary-Distribution}. If YFBD is worth its salt > then it is based upon some sort of packages system. Make sure that you can > get those source packages as we

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