Gil Freund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How about Matrox, S3, SiS and Intel?
Very difficult to come across nowadays in your neighbourhood computer
shop, AFAIK. Your favourite shop may be an exception, but these
vendors' market share is small compared to nVidia and ATI[1]. Intel make
on-board car
How about Matrox, S3, SiS and Intel?
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
No, I'm afraid I haven't done any research into this problem yet and
thus cannot point you to such a card, although I should, soon. I
think Oleg did recently, though. Oleg?
Well, I tried to
Intel chipsets (like 855) include 3D enabled chip and
the documentation can be found in their site. It is low-end
as far as 3D OpenGL (and things like lighting aren't implemented
in hardware). They will have a new chip in couple of months
with better architecture, but still, it leaves you with
the
Not entirely correct.
You could find some ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the likes, for around 200NIS. It will
work with X out of the box. It will have zero (0) 3D abilities, and it's fine
for you.
If you want to play the simplest 3D game - let's say tux racer, you need 3D
acceleration, else you'll g
Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> No, I'm afraid I haven't done any research into this problem yet and
> thus cannot point you to such a card, although I should, soon. I
> think Oleg did recently, though. Oleg?
Well, I tried to stay away from this discussion, but now I am drawn
into i
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 05:01:18PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Friday 02 January 2004 14:23, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> > Great, so why did you buy them in the first place? buy a card from a
> > vendor that opens its drivers. Pretty obvious, isn't it?
>
> It is (I haven't bought any of their cards
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 03:08:19PM +0200, Ez-Aton wrote:
> > The choice should be obvious.
>
> Would it? What would you choose then?
A card that has open drivers. In the hypothetical case that no such
card exists, I would've bought the one that is closest to "open" and
worked on reverse engineer
On Friday 02 January 2004 14:23, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> Great, so why did you buy them in the first place? buy a card from a
> vendor that opens its drivers. Pretty obvious, isn't it?
It is (I haven't bought any of their cards). But can you point to *any* card
with at least an open spec? It does
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On Friday 02 January 2004 15:11, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Wrong, big time!
>
> ATI Drivers are so horrible, that unless you have the real high end card
> (8xxx or 9xxx) - then their closed source drivers won't help you, and the
> open source drivers will
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Diego Iastrubni wrote:
| so what were those rumours saying that 3D games on linux have more
frame rate
| then on windows?
|
| BTW,
| is there TV out support on their drivers?
| The drivers on the site are for 8500 and 9x000, how abut the 7x000 family?
|
The 7xxx is unsupported. I have a laptop using one of the 7xxx familly (I
think the mobile M6 or a similar name), and I can use only the built-in XFree
drivers. None others.
Ez.
On Friday 02 January 2004 16:20, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> so what were those rumours saying that 3D games on linux ha
so what were those rumours saying that 3D games on linux have more frame rate
then on windows?
BTW,
is there TV out support on their drivers?
The drivers on the site are for 8500 and 9x000, how abut the 7x000 family?
ביום שישי, 2 בינואר 2004, 15:11, נכתב על ידי Hetz Ben Hamo:
> Wrong, big time!
Wrong, big time!
ATI Drivers are so horrible, that unless you have the real high end card (8xxx
or 9xxx) - then their closed source drivers won't help you, and the open
source drivers will give you AT BEST - 30-40% of speed in 3D.
I'm not mentioning the fact that there is no AGP driver for thei
On Friday 02 January 2004 14:56, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 02:51:53PM +0200, Ez-Aton wrote:
> > BTW, the solution is there. It is usually related to AGP communication.
> > You can, of course, debug the kernel, the X system, the driver, their
> > relationship, but NVidia did t
Hi Shlomi,
> The question is who should I complain to? NVidia supplies the drivers on
> their homepage, but claims I should address their OEMs for support. Fact
> is: I bought my computer recently with an NVidia GX4 card there and don't
> know who my card OEM is. (albeit I may be able to find out)
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 02:51:53PM +0200, Ez-Aton wrote:
> BTW, the solution is there. It is usually related to AGP communication. You
> can, of course, debug the kernel, the X system, the driver, their
> relationship, but NVidia did this for you before.
c.f. shlomif's problem, obviously, they
BTW, the solution is there. It is usually related to AGP communication. You
can, of course, debug the kernel, the X system, the driver, their
relationship, but NVidia did this for you before. Not open, but a good
product, and a good support.
Not everyone (actually, only very few) bother debuggin
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 01:15:07PM +0200, Ez-Aton wrote:
> You can blame them for being closed source (as you can blame most of the
> world, today), but you cannot blame them for lack of support.
Of course you can. By not opening up the drivers, they deprive you of
the best form of support - hel
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 12:49:55PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> I think the fact they are not open-source and integrated into the main
> kernel is a huge burden for me, and gives me a lot of trouble.
Great, so why did you buy them in the first place? buy a card from a
vendor that opens its drive
You could check the support section, and forums of NVidia's site. They have
solutions for such things.
Unlike many other hardware and driver vendors, NVidia (which ships closed
source driver) have a good support, and great forums, meant for you, and
everyone else who needs support, regarding Lin
ביום שישי, 2 בינואר 2004, 12:49, כתבת:
> Finally, I have a problem. When I use an OpenGL screensaver, the X server
> crashes and brings me back to command line. It doesn't happen with a
> non-OpenGL screensaver, so it's probably the driver's fault. I wish to
> know how can I resolve this. It is obv
Hi!
I'd like to complain about the current situation with the Nvidia drivers.
I think the fact they are not open-source and integrated into the main
kernel is a huge burden for me, and gives me a lot of trouble. I am not a
free software fanatic, but the current way of doing things is wasting me
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