Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-10-16 Thread Maxim Veksler
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010, Nadav Har'El wrote about "Re: CPU & RAM in a storage > box": > > Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into it. Their price is a bit of > > a turn-off, though - at $0.80 GB/mo, backing up 20 GB costs $16 a month, > >..

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010, Nadav Har'El wrote about "Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box": > Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into it. Their price is a bit of > a turn-off, though - at $0.80 GB/mo, backing up 20 GB costs $16 a month, >.. > I wonder what is

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-28 Thread Ori Berger
Nadav Har'El wrote: At Backblaze, we provide unlimited storage to our customers for only $5 per month, so we had to figure out how to store hundreds of petabytes of Looking at their site, it appears that while their systems run on Linux, they don't give service to Linux machines. Is that true? I

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-28 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Sep 28, 2010, at 1:18 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: so in theory I could back up a terabyte of movies for the same price (of course, it would probably take a year to upload a terabyte ;-)). If my arithmetic and assumptions are correct, you can upload a megabyte in 8 seconds with an 800k b

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-28 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010, ronys wrote about "RE: CPU & RAM in a storage box": > For Linux-friendliness, I don't think that you can find something better > than <http://rsync.net/> http://rsync.net/, but I'd be happy to be proven > wrong. Note that they ha

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
n Behalf Of *Ori Idan > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:24 AM > *To:* Nadav Har'El > *Cc:* linux-il > *Subject:* Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box > > I think dropbox.com can be used as a backup system to Linux. > It has a daemon for Linux, however the daemon itself is pr

RE: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-28 Thread ronys
x27;El Cc: linux-il Subject: Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box I think dropbox.com can be used as a backup system to Linux. It has a daemon for Linux, however the daemon itself is propriatry, the GNOME Nautilus extension is not. -- Ori Idan On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Nadav Har'El

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-28 Thread Ori Idan
"Re: CPU & RAM in a > storage box": > > Have you seen this? > >... > > > At Backblaze, we provide unlimited storage to our customers for only $5 > per > > > month, so we had to figure out how to store hundreds of petabytes of > >... > > L

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-27 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010, Michael Tewner wrote about "Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box": > Have you seen this? >... > > At Backblaze, we provide unlimited storage to our customers for only $5 per > > month, so we had to figure out how to store hundreds of petabytes of

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-27 Thread Michael Tewner
Have you seen this? http://www.backblaze.com/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage.html At Backblaze, we provide unlimited storage to our customers for only $5 per > month, so we had to figure out how to store hundreds of petabytes of > customer data in a reliable, scalable way—a

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-10 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
Nope. I did not say production. I said that if you want NetApp-style snapshots, use one of the mentioned file systems. I never said I actually used them for production, nor for anything at all (I don't) Ez On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: > 2010/9/10 Etzion Bar-Noy : > > Linu

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-10 Thread Amos Shapira
2010/9/10 Etzion Bar-Noy : > Linux LVM2 has been around for several years now. It can take and use > snapshots, and I do it for the last three or so years on production sites. > There are limitations, such as space utilization and performance, but the > most significant one is that LVM snapshots ar

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-10 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
Linux LVM2 has been around for several years now. It can take and use snapshots, and I do it for the last three or so years on *production* sites. There are limitations, such as space utilization and performance, but the most significant one is that LVM snapshots are nowhere near NetApp snapshots.

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-10 Thread Erez D
here is my 3 cents: In two companies i worked for, i designed similiar servers. 1. i wanted to have as less as a down time, and i didn't want to buy another server just to sit and wait for a failure, so i decided it should work on any pc with any raid controller - i decided to do the raid in soft

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
I happen to have an IBM SAN storage at home, so I am familiar with IBM line of storage products. The EXP3000 is an expansion to IBM storage, which can perform for itself (JBoD), however - it contains no CPU, or RAID abilities internally. You will have to connect it to an additional server (1U, I as

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
On top of rpath Linux, which is the root of all evil. Also - although I have implemented quite a few of these, OpenFiler suffers from various bugs and shortcomings. Still - in the "free like beer" area - it is good enough for most purposes. Ez On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Amos Shapira wrote:

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Amos Shapira
2010/9/10 Hetz Ben Hamo > > Hi people, > I'm planning to add some big storage solution to my VPS business. I did some > checking and calculated the costs, and figured out that if I want to have a > decent 12TB solution NAS box, it would be best if I would roll my own. (12 TB > before all the RA

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, 2010/9/9 Etzion Bar-Noy > This is a joke, right? You want someone to host your system, which, by > design, will not be rack-mountable, and would be large, due to the amount of > disks you are to place there. It is possible, but extremely expensive to > host a non-1-U server nowadays. Who wou

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
This is a joke, right? You want someone to host your system, which, by design, will not be rack-mountable, and would be large, due to the amount of disks you are to place there. It is possible, but extremely expensive to host a non-1-U server nowadays. Who would "give" it to you? An industrial-gra

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, 2010/9/9 geoffrey mendelson > > On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > >> I'm planning to add some big storage solution to my VPS business. I did >> some checking and calculated the costs, and figured out that if I want to >> have a decent 12TB solution NAS box, it would be bes

RE: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Baruch Shpirer
is old, you can get newer and better similar cards.. so do the math Shana tova to all _ From: linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il [mailto:linux-il-boun...@cs.huji.ac.il] On Behalf Of Hetz Ben Hamo Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 18:36 To: linux-il Subject: CPU & RAM in a storage box

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Kfir Lavi
Hi Hetz, My experience is with raid backup servers, that need to keep data but don't have to be the fastest. I wouldn't go so far with it at the start. Take some old server box. Buy a killer power supply for hard drives stability. Now test the setup using mdadm as raid. This will most likely be go

Re: CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Sep 9, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: I'm planning to add some big storage solution to my VPS business. I did some checking and calculated the costs, and figured out that if I want to have a decent 12TB solution NAS box, it would be best if I would roll my own. (12 TB before a

CPU & RAM in a storage box

2010-09-09 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi people, I'm planning to add some big storage solution to my VPS business. I did some checking and calculated the costs, and figured out that if I want to have a decent 12TB solution NAS box, it would be best if I would roll my own. (12 TB before all the RAID stuff, after that it