Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-25 Thread Maayan Eshed
excuse the delay, im off grid most of the time but the letters RMS caught my eye my two cents: cent 1: == its not what YOU think about him - its about what HE thinks about you: If I were RMS's host i would go to the hosting uni's academic diplomacy dept or an institute like INSS and or some p

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-19 Thread Shlomi Fish
hi Omer! On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 6:35 PM Omer Zak wrote: > > Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily > surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token > effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his trip's finances > so that Palestinian

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Steve Litt
is "pedophilia thing" was saying the pedophile "wasn't all bad". And I'll say the same thing about RMS, he's not all bad. I'm eternally grateful to him for the GPL and the GNU utilities, and at the same time I think he has no right to expect help from Israelis

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Julian Daich
El mié, 18 may 2022 a las 20:25, Anton Amirian () escribió: > > This is a literal quote from RMS > >I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The > >arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't > >voluntary, which are then stretched by parents

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Julian Daich
El mié, 18 may 2022 a las 17:35, Omer Zak () escribió: > > Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily > surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token > effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his trip's finances > so that Palestinians wo

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Anton Amirian > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:23:54 +0300 > Cc: Omer Zak , linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > This is a literal quote from RMS > >I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The > >arguments that it causes harm > seem to be based on cases which aren't volu

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Anton Amirian
This is a literal quote from RMS >I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing If you

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Anton Amirian > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:56:25 +0300 > Cc: Omer Zak , linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > Honestly I'm kinda shocked that some people are more mad at him for not > liking israeli treatment of > palestinians than the whole pedophilia thing There's no pedophilia thing. There's a

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 20:36 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > If you distinguish between his views and deeds, you don't know RMS. > This is the man who never uses a smartphone, or a Web browser with > JavaScript support, because that could cause him to use non-Free > software. His views and his deeds

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Anton Amirian
Honestly I'm kinda shocked that some people are more mad at him for not liking israeli treatment of palestinians than the whole pedophilia thing what the hell, assess your values jeez On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 8:37 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Omer Zak > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:10:59 +

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Omer Zak > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:10:59 +0300 > > > And yes, his views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are skewed and > > sometimes border on the silly, but if you think boycotting us is > > wrong, then why do you suggest boycotting him? Why is it that a > > single point of disagr

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 18:59 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Dan Yasny > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 11:38:36 -0400 > > Cc: Israel Linux Mailing list > > > > Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 > > happily > > surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even m

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Omer Zak
On Wed, 2022-05-18 at 18:54 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Omer Zak > > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:34:58 +0300 > > > > Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 > > happily > > surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a > > token > > effort to ask if

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Dan Yasny > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 11:38:36 -0400 > Cc: Israel Linux Mailing list > > Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily > surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token > effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Omer Zak > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:34:58 +0300 > > Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily > surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token > effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his trip's finances > so that Palestinian

Re: (BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Dan Yasny
On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 11:35 AM Omer Zak wrote: > Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily > surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token > effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his trip's finances > so that Palestinians won't ha

(BDS OFFTOPIC) Re: Venue for RMS

2022-05-18 Thread Omer Zak
Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his trip's finances so that Palestinians won't have to pay for his non-boycotting trip to Israel and Palesti

Re: CORRECTION (Re: AGAIN, UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Weird 'free' output))

2021-05-10 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 09/05/2021 20:51, Omer Zak wrote: After sending the E-mail message reproduced below, I checked the mailing list archives and did not find there Diego's E-mail. So he apparently limited his E-mail message's distribution to his victim and to the mailing list's

CORRECTION (Re: AGAIN, UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Weird 'free' output))

2021-05-09 Thread Omer Zak
After sending the E-mail message reproduced below, I checked the mailing list archives and did not find there Diego's E-mail. So he apparently limited his E-mail message's distribution to his victim and to the mailing list's administrators. So my memory failed me in this case. However, I believe

AGAIN, UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Weird 'free' output)

2021-05-09 Thread Omer Zak
As far as I remember, Diego did send the request to the list. So Ori Idan could not really ignore Diego's E-mail. Doing so could have been interpreted as admission of guilt (in the Court of Public Opinion). I agree that failing to prove a point is different from proving the opposite point. However

Re: UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Fwd: Weird 'free' output)

2021-05-05 Thread linux.il
Guys - even though I didn't receive an answer to my RAM question, I'm happy. It's really a time machine to the nineties. The only thing I'm missing it's Marc and a SCSI cable :-) Vitaly On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:28 AM Michael Tewner wrote: > I don't get it - Why shouldn't even a convicted crimi

Re: UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Fwd: Weird 'free' output)

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Tewner
I don't get it - Why shouldn't even a convicted criminal be able to answer a question about Linux FREE(1) ? On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 10:29 PM Omer Zak wrote: > May I suggest that Diego Iastrubni be removed from this mailing list > due to potential future disruption of public peace by asking for

UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Fwd: Weird 'free' output)

2021-05-04 Thread Omer Zak
May I suggest that Diego Iastrubni be removed from this mailing list due to potential future disruption of public peace by asking for removal of people, who have been framed by powerful business competitors? --- Omer Zak On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 22:06 +0300, Shay Gover wrote: > Please do not assume

Re: OFFTOPIC: friends from foocamp requests help from outside North America for researching censorship; script to run on *nix

2016-07-09 Thread Michael Shiloh
Thanks Shlomi, I'm normally in USA but I happen to be in Israel right now visiting family so I ran the client. Very clean and easy. (By the way, I'm hoping to return to Israel and am looking for teaching work. Would it be off topic to briefly mention what I teach in the hopes that people here mig

Re: OFFTOPIC: friends from foocamp requests help from outside North America for researching censorship; script to run on *nix

2016-07-09 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Michael, thanks for sharing. I don't feel it's off topic for this list and I have already retweeted the tweet and have built and ran the client. I'll try to publicise it a bit more. Regards, -- Shlomi Fish ​ ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs

OFFTOPIC: friends from foocamp requests help from outside North America for researching censorship; script to run on *nix

2016-07-08 Thread Michael Shiloh
Because most responses will be from North America, I thought it would be particularly valuable if people on this list might be willing to help. Details here >From their website: Active Geolocation Project This website is part of a research study condu

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-30 Thread Omer Zak
Of course, anything more complicated than a non-programmable calculator can be considered to be a Turing machine (sometimes, with bounded memory capacity). However, it would be as useful as saying that every computer program is a function transforming an input (such as a series of events in a GUI

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-30 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh writes: > On 29/01/15 15:37, Ori Idan wrote: > > Didn't you just describe a Turing machine? > > Turing machine is finite and has certain number of states with > defined transitions. I think what Omer meant here was more of a > dynamic Turing ma

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-30 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Oleg Goldshmidt writes: > I don't think so. No one said anything about having an infinite number > of states, for instance. s/numer of states/memory/ of course. I did get it right closer to the end of my post. Sorry for the slip. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-29 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh writes: > Didn't you just describe a Turing machine? I don't think so. No one said anything about having an infinite number of states, for instance. There may or may not be a connection, so what? A Turing machine is a theoretical construct, I thought the question was about practi

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 29/01/15 15:37, Ori Idan wrote: > > Didn't you just describe a Turing machine? > > Turing machine is finite and has certain number of states with defined > transitions. I think what Omer meant here was more of a dynamic Turing > machine. > Since a Turing machine has an infinite amount of mem

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-29 Thread Ori Idan
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > On 28/01/15 20:04, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > Omer Zak writes: > > > After a brief Google search: > Does anyone know about any research, theory or practice of time-varying > finite state machines? > > Short answer: I don't. ;-) I'll

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-29 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 28/01/15 20:04, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Omer Zak writes: > >> After a brief Google search: >> Does anyone know about any research, theory or practice of time-varying >> finite state machines? > Short answer: I don't. ;-) I'll offer a couple of thoughts, anyway. > >> I mean FSMs which might gro

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-28 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Omer Zak writes: > After a brief Google search: > Does anyone know about any research, theory or practice of time-varying > finite state machines? Short answer: I don't. ;-) I'll offer a couple of thoughts, anyway. > I mean FSMs which might grow a new state, remove a state, add/subtract > trans

[OFFTOPIC] Time varying FSMs

2015-01-27 Thread Omer Zak
After a brief Google search: Does anyone know about any research, theory or practice of time-varying finite state machines? I mean FSMs which might grow a new state, remove a state, add/subtract transitions by means of meta-rules. Given the research demonstrating the plasticity of the brain, such

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Medical practitioners and building trade people vs. software developers (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
sammy ominsky writes: > On 15/11/2011, at 09:52, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > >> In addition, one wants a consultant for stuff >> that is outside one's core competency, so it looks like outsourcing, >> which _must_ be cheaper than paying permanent staff, right? > > No, it's almost always more expens

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Medical practitioners and building trade people vs. software developers (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-15 Thread sammy ominsky
On 15/11/2011, at 09:52, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > In addition, one wants a consultant for stuff > that is outside one's core competency, so it looks like outsourcing, > which _must_ be cheaper than paying permanent staff, right? No, it's almost always more expensive, but should only be used whe

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Medical practitioners and building trade people vs. software developers (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-15 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Omer Zak wrote: > I am curious to know how do people in the building trades and in the > medical area manage to attract high payment in exchange for excellence. Why do you think they do? The vast majority of medical services are provided by unionized personnel, a

[OFFTOPIC] Medical practitioners and building trade people vs. software developers (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-15 Thread Omer Zak
On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 15:04 +0200, Tom Balazs wrote: > 2. The customer is often not able to understand the product or service > he is buying. That means they can't really understand whether or not a > job was done well. This is true in many fields. I am curious to know how do people in the buildin

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche

2011-11-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 11/14/2011 11:27 PM, Etzion Bar-Noy wrote: > Can't do anything with the servers. The funny thing is that during > that time, two or three weeks since, the system is just sitting there, > when the server room is being "built" around it. My worst "time wasted" story is from way back (you can calcu

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Amos Shapira
On 15 November 2011 04:12, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > > On Nov 14, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> >> Simply because "price per hour" is a quantitative metric. The fact >> that it is meaningless is meaningless. >> > > > It's the bogo-mips of consulting. :-) +1 :) _

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
at 4:33 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about "Re: [OFFTOPIC] > Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)": > > Long ago I got out of the PC repair/support business when the 50 NIS > > an hour people took over.

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Etzion Bar-Noy
True. However, the best support can be given by a pro who has a cooperation of the hosting company. Most of them will never cooperate, as they earn better (despite their awful quality of work) with an external person/company. So, your main channel - the hosting supplier, will probably not like you

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Nov 14, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: Simply because "price per hour" is a quantitative metric. The fact that it is meaningless is meaningless. It's the bogo-mips of consulting. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlo

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche

2011-11-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:06, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > On 11/14/2011 03:45 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > I can vouch for this. I am not a CS major and I consider myself a Linux > amateur, but I have worked supporting various Linux servers for locals. Of > course, I was making nowhere near the level

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 16:33, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about "Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding > the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)": >> Long ago I got out of the PC repair/support business when the 50 NIS >> a

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche

2011-11-14 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche": > > So how is the "price per hour" a meaningful variable when comparing two > > consultants? > > > Not every problem can be meaningfully defined into a f

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche

2011-11-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 11/14/2011 04:33 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about "Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding > the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)": >> Long ago I got out of the PC repair/support business when the 50 NIS >> an hour

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011, geoffrey mendelson wrote about "Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)": > Long ago I got out of the PC repair/support business when the 50 NIS > an hour people took over. Am I the only one bothered by all this "

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche

2011-11-14 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 11/14/2011 03:45 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I can vouch for this. I am not a CS major and I consider myself a > Linux amateur, but I have worked supporting various Linux servers for > locals. Of course, I was making nowhere near the level of income that > Shahar discusses on his blog, experience w

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: I can vouch for this. I am not a CS major and I consider myself a Linux amateur, but I have worked supporting various Linux servers for locals. Of course, I was making nowhere near the level of income that Shahar discusses on his blog, experience

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Dotan Cohen
2011/11/14 Hetz Ben Hamo : > Hi, > I'll give you one: Supporting hosting customers. > Explanation: there are over 40 businesses here in Israel which provides VPS > and dedicated server renting solutions. > Most of those businesses (including mine) provide the machine to the > customers as "unmanage

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, I'll give you one: Supporting hosting customers. Explanation: there are over 40 businesses here in Israel which provides VPS and dedicated server renting solutions. Most of those businesses (including mine) provide the machine to the customers as "unmanaged", which means: the support you'll g

[OFFTOPIC] Finding the next lucrative niche (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Omer Zak
We need some process for identifying the next niche to pursue, taking into account current skill set, customers/contacts, and effort&expense incurred in acquiring the competencies relevant for the next niche. Did anyone blog about such a process? On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 14:51 +0200, E L wrote: > W

[OFFTOPIC] Disappearing niches clarification (was: Re: Goodbye, Lingnu)

2011-11-14 Thread Omer Zak
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 14:15 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > On 11/14/2011 01:36 PM, Omer Zak wrote: > > The business does not exist today because we were not successful > > in locating another good niche once the original niche disappeared > > (which was far from taking us by surprise). > > > But

Re: [OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)

2011-09-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 22:08, Omer Zak wrote: > There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: > http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html > > --- Omer > I think that I've finally found the word in English: poetic. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetic_justice Also, in the m

Re: [OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)

2011-08-18 Thread Stan Goodman
On Thursday 18 August 2011 22:08:29 Omer Zak wrote: > There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: > http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html It's not harder to translate than any other word. It's only necessary to think what one wants to say, which not everyone does. As I said ear

Re: [OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)

2011-08-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 22:08, Omer Zak wrote: > There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: > http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html > > --- Omer > Nice, thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ L

[OFFTOPIC] The word 'davka' is complicated to translate (was: Re: Thunderbird mailer)

2011-08-18 Thread Omer Zak
There is a special blog article devoted to this subject: http://elephant.org.il/translate/davka.html --- Omer On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 21:38 +0300, Stan Goodman wrote: > On Thursday 18 August 2011 21:06:40 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > [1] How to say דווקא in English? > > The word is obviously related to

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 13:17, geoffrey mendelson < geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote: > In case you don't know what I am talking about: > > > > Thanks for the link. My opinion is that Richard Stallman has the right to express his opinions against the Israeli occupati

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 01:17:06PM +0300, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > This, BTW is why I dislike the GPL, it has some baggage attached, which > now includes BDS. I much prefer BSD's "do what you want, but don't do it > here"* license. BSD is bad because: A. It's all to much like BDS (which can

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread Meir Michanie
I think that everyone has an opinion, a political agenda and a personal agenda. I chose to use FOSS as a way to defend my right to use any software in anyway I want and not to be tide to the political/business agenda of a proprietary software provider. The right to use free software should be a hum

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM, geoffrey mendelson wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > >> And we are getting way off-topic here. > > No, we are not. RMS has chosen to marry the two topics, now we have to > accept one if we want the other. No, RMS should not have any influ

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread Barry.R
> On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Stan Goodman wrote: > > That is a very brief list of some of the things that go over Mr > > Stallman's head. I think they amount to gross hypocrisy. Giving him a > > pass for his hypocrisy is also hypocritical. > > Stan (and others), > > This is Israel, and he is al

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote: How do all these things of what the Palestinians are doing wrong, invalidate Stallman's criticism against Israel? Shouldn't Israel behave properly regardless of whatever the other side is doing? Yes, Israel should. The question of what is pr

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Jun 7, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Stan Goodman wrote: That is a very brief list of some of the things that go over Mr Stallman's head. I think they amount to gross hypocrisy. Giving him a pass for his hypocrisy is also hypocritical. Stan (and others), This is Israel, and he is allowed to be a hy

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tuesday 07 Jun 2011 12:43:51 Stan Goodman wrote: > On Tuesday 07 June 2011 at 12:23:27 (GMT+2) "Uri Even-Chen" > > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 08:13, Omer Zak wrote: > > > The issue here is not opposing the Israeli occupation but about the > > > academic boycott. > > > > > > Would you

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-07 Thread Stan Goodman
On Tuesday 07 June 2011 at 12:23:27 (GMT+2) "Uri Even-Chen" wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 08:13, Omer Zak wrote: > > The issue here is not opposing the Israeli occupation but about the > > academic boycott. > > > > Would you find it to be acceptable for the Palestinians to use ABC > > (atomi

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-06 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 08:13, Omer Zak wrote: > The issue here is not opposing the Israeli occupation but about the > academic boycott. > > Would you find it to be acceptable for the Palestinians to use ABC > (atomic/biological/chemical) weapons to fight the Israeli occupation > "because they are

[OFFTOPIC] Re: Richard Stallman answer to me

2011-06-06 Thread Omer Zak
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 07:40 +0300, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > > I agree with Richard Stallman's views about the Israeli occupation. The issue here is not opposing the Israeli occupation but about the academic boycott. Would you find it to be acceptable for the Palestinians to use ABC (atomic/biolo

Re: [offtopic] OpenID

2010-02-03 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 03 Feb 2010 12:03:39 Michael Ben-Nes wrote: > Hi, > > Any recommendation for an OpenID account provider. > Hi! I'm using LiveJournal as my OpenID provider - http://shlomif.livejournal.com/ and it has worked very well so far. Also see: http://blog.woobling.org/2009/05/your-openid-

[offtopic] OpenID

2010-02-03 Thread Michael Ben-Nes
Hi, Any recommendation for an OpenID account provider. Cheers, Miki -- Michael Ben-Nes - Internet Consultant and Director. http://www.epoch.co.il - weaving the Net. Cellular: 054-4848113 -- __

Re: [SEMI-OFFTOPIC] eBook reader recommendations, anyone?

2009-12-17 Thread Tom Goren
like i said, the requirements sound reasonable, and would probably make up a very interesting gadget, i just am not familiar with such a device avaiable, and i tried to supply the rationale behind why not. also still i have some qualms with the notion of simultaneous wikipedia and dictionary refer

Re: [SEMI-OFFTOPIC] eBook reader recommendations, anyone?

2009-12-17 Thread Omer Zak
Tom, Do you have anything to say about the other requirements listed by me? The display size which I specified corresponds to an open book, in which one can see two pages facing each other. I envisioned the use case of having to read a book while referring to something else (such as a dictionary

Re: [SEMI-OFFTOPIC] eBook reader recommendations, anyone?

2009-12-16 Thread Tom Goren
maybe you will like this abomination: http://www.geeks.co.uk/11414-the-entourage-edge-in-action-dual-scree-ebook-reader ;-) 2009/12/17 Tom Goren > what is this fantastic device you have invented? > > 14-15 by 9-10 inches display? > > most ebook readers are much much smaller. > > perhaps you sh

Re: [SEMI-OFFTOPIC] eBook reader recommendations, anyone?

2009-12-16 Thread Tom Goren
what is this fantastic device you have invented? 14-15 by 9-10 inches display? most ebook readers are much much smaller. perhaps you should take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_e-book_readers - there is a big matrix there comparing all features of most devices on the market. also

Re: [SEMI-OFFTOPIC] eBook reader recommendations, anyone?

2009-12-16 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:40 PM, Omer Zak wrote: What does the collective wisdom of the Israeli Linux users know about the current crop of eBook readers? Any recommendations? Do the following requirements make sense? 1. Ability to display PDF files. 2. Full-fledged browser for displaying locally

[SEMI-OFFTOPIC] eBook reader recommendations, anyone?

2009-12-16 Thread Omer Zak
What does the collective wisdom of the Israeli Linux users know about the current crop of eBook readers? Any recommendations? Do the following requirements make sense? 1. Ability to display PDF files. 2. Full-fledged browser for displaying locally-cached HTML files. 3. Ability to display text

Re: offtopic: any one noticed a slowdown in bezeqint service?

2009-12-13 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
I seem to see DNS problems on Netvision, as well. Anyone else ? On Sunday 13 December 2009, ik wrote: > Yes, > > It exists for the past 3 weeks now. I moved to public dns servers (on > servers that hosts at bezeqint). > It seems that the dns maps to use netex if they fail to return the > address

Re: offtopic: any one noticed a slowdown in bezeqint service?

2009-12-13 Thread Michael Ben-Nes
Great, now its breeze lightning. Damn Bezeqint for wasting my time. Thanks, Miki -- Michael Ben-Nes - Internet Consultant and Director. http://www.epoch.co.il - weaving the Net. Cellular: 054-4848113

Re: offtopic: any one noticed a slowdown in bezeqint service?

2009-12-13 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Dec 13, 2009, at 3:41 PM, ik wrote: Yes, It exists for the past 3 weeks now. I moved to public dns servers (on servers that hosts at bezeqint). It seems that the dns maps to use netex if they fail to return the address, and that's takes between 20-30 seconds to return. Try google, 8

Re: offtopic: any one noticed a slowdown in bezeqint service?

2009-12-13 Thread ik
Yes, It exists for the past 3 weeks now. I moved to public dns servers (on servers that hosts at bezeqint). It seems that the dns maps to use netex if they fail to return the address, and that's takes between 20-30 seconds to return. Ido http://ik.homelinux.org/ 2009/12/13 Michael Ben-Nes > H

offtopic: any one noticed a slowdown in bezeqint service?

2009-12-13 Thread Michael Ben-Nes
Hi, Especially in DNS responses. Bye, Miki -- Michael Ben-Nes - Internet Consultant and Director. http://www.epoch.co.il - weaving the Net. Cellular: 054-4848113 -- ___

[SEMI-OFFTOPIC] GNUcash users in Israel?

2009-04-14 Thread Omer Zak
1. Is there any group, mailing list or forum for GNUcash users in Israel? 2. Is there any CPA with practical experience in matching between the needs of businesses using GNUcash for their internal accounting and the legal tax requirements? --- Omer -- D

[OFFTOPIC?] SYSTOR 2009 Call for Participation

2009-04-07 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION SYSTOR 2009---The Israeli Experimental Systems Conference http://www.haifa.il.ibm.com/conferences/systor2009/ 4-6 May 2009 Haifa, Israel Registration deadline: May 2nd SYSTOR 2009, the Israeli Ex

Re: Uptime vs. security (was: [offtopic] Government and technology)

2009-03-13 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 09 February 2009 12:06:27 Ira Abramov wrote: > Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Sat, 07 Feb: > > On Friday 06 February 2009 23:42:54 Ira Abramov wrote: > > > 23:40:21 up 512 days, 9:49, 2 users, load average: 0.89, 0.83, 1.11 > > > > That's a nice uptime. However, weren't there a

Re: offtopic: job?

2009-02-26 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Sorry, I'm looking to be employed as a system administrator. My CV is at: http://benhamo.org/public/cv/ (doc and pdf). Thanks for your comments. Hetz On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Still looking for a Linux sysadmin job (this damn r

Re: offtopic: job?

2009-02-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi, Still looking for a Linux sysadmin job (this damn recession makes life really miserable, for me specially for the last 3 month looking for a job) If anyone hears something, please contact me directly. Thank you very much, Hetz Ben Hamo It's not easily understood wh

offtopic: job?

2009-02-26 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, Still looking for a Linux sysadmin job (this damn recession makes life really miserable, for me specially for the last 3 month looking for a job) If anyone hears something, please contact me directly. Thank you very much, Hetz Ben Hamo -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. m

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Aviram Jenik, from the post of Mon, 09 Feb: > On Sunday 08 February 2009 23:42:54 b...@rymland.com wrote: > > > The only down side is that in small claims you have to file and appear > > > yourself, without a lawyer. This is basically the reason I haven't done > > Agreed. The only reason I

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Moish
Amit Aronovitch wrote: According to a couple of recent Hebrew spams that I got, there's a loophole allowing ONE spam message per spammer per email address. They say that the law allows sending one message if it is an offer for registration to a publicity list (they can't send you more if you do

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Amit Aronovitch
According to a couple of recent Hebrew spams that I got, there's a loophole allowing ONE spam message per spammer per email address. They say that the law allows sending one message if it is an offer for registration to a publicity list (they can't send you more if you do not respond), so basically

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Sunday 08 February 2009 23:42:54 b...@rymland.com wrote: > > The only down side is that in small claims you have to file and appear > > yourself, without a lawyer. This is basically the reason I haven't done > > it > > > yet. > That's exactly the reason why I haven't done it myself as well. The

Re: [offtopic] Government and technology

2009-02-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting sara fink, from the post of Sat, 07 Feb: > HI Ira > > Who is the party? What subjects you raised with them? What distro you are > interested to install and what laws you intend to propose them? Hi, sorry for the delay in replies, it's ben a crazy time these last few weeks :-) As some of

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote: What do you do in such a case? Sue. The law specifically says that the person in charge of marketing must make a personal effort to make sure that the company is spam free, or face PERSONAL consequences. In any case, like I said before, it's up to the spammer to prove t

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?": > Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > > >Well, I find that hard to believe. You will eventually have to prove > >that you received the SPAM from them. and that you

Uptime vs. security (was: [offtopic] Government and technology)

2009-02-09 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Sat, 07 Feb: > On Friday 06 February 2009 23:42:54 Ira Abramov wrote: > > 23:40:21 up 512 days, 9:49, 2 users, load average: 0.89, 0.83, 1.11 > > That's a nice uptime. However, weren't there any newer kernels released since > with important security updat

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:24:34AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as the one being advertised is sufficient evidence that you are the presumed spammer. I imagine that, should the spammer want to cl

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 11:24:34AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as the one being advertised is sufficient evidence that you are the presumed spammer. I imagine that, should the spammer want to claim they are not, the burden

Re: OFFTOPIC: Re: Hebrew spam: what to do about it?

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: Well, I find that hard to believe. You will eventually have to prove that you received the SPAM from them. and that you did not alter it in any way. The law is very specific that having your name appearing on the spam as the one being advertised is sufficient eviden

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