Amos Shapira wrote:
>
> Finally, I heard from people who worked at CheckPoint (Shachar? not
> sure, I knew a few)
I joined CheckPoint when they had just started talking about migrating
to ClearCase (from CVS). I left CheckPoint (two years and three months
later) at about the point where ClearCase s
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Subject: Re: [OT] SVN commercial support
On 10/11/07, Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There is no built-in development framework in SVN like there is in
ClearCase UCM.
Agreed, but you've also mentioned that developers rarely take the time to
Hi!
On Thursday 11 October 2007, Amos Shapira wrote:
> On 10/10/2007, Leonid Podolny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > My employer considers switching CM (i.e. "source control") system. The
> > current favorite in the race is ClearCase. Previously, at my previous
> > place of work, we worked
On 10/11/07, Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is no built-in development framework in SVN like there is in
> ClearCase UCM.
Agreed, but you've also mentioned that developers rarely take the time to
understand ClearCase. In the army, we also tried to implement UCM (the
'mu
On 11/10/2007, Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Amos,
> There is no built-in development framework in SVN like there is in
> ClearCase UCM. With SVN you can role your own development framework using
> the hooks, but that's very different from having one ready-made for you.
> I
On 11/10/2007, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 10/10/2007, Leonid Podolny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > My employer considers switching CM (i.e. "source control") system. The
> > current favorite in the race is ClearCase. Previously, at my previous
> > place of work, we
Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
>
> If you do not have at least 30 developers then the admin overhead that
> ClearCase requires will be very expensive for you in relation to the
> advantages that it offers.
> Regards,
>
We have 5 times this amount. So, from reading at this list I begin to
think that
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From: Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: [OT] SVN commercial support
On 11/10/2007, Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
developers working in one location. Once you go above that number there
begin to be project manageme
On 11/10/2007, Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> developers working in one location. Once you go above that number there
> begin to be project management issues such as the need to lock down
> branches, define releases and other build types, and impose development
> discipline. Th
ation to the
advantages that it offers.
Regards,
- yba
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Leonid Podolny wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:22:38 +0200
From: Leonid Podolny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
Subject: [OT] SVN commercial support
Hi,
My employer considers switching CM (i
On 10/10/2007, Leonid Podolny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> My employer considers switching CM (i.e. "source control") system. The
> current favorite in the race is ClearCase. Previously, at my previous
> place of work, we worked with Subversion, and it was simply amazing --
..
> Any sugge
>
>
> Technically, this is not true. ClearCase is more sophisticated. In
> addition to barebones SCM, it offers a development workflow (called "UCM")
> integrating with their issue-tracking (ClearQuest), dynamic views, IDE
> integration and some more features -- but this comes at a price of very b
On Wednesday 10 October 2007, Leonid Podolny wrote:
> Hi,
> My employer considers switching CM (i.e. "source control") system. The
> current favorite in the race is ClearCase. Previously, at my previous
> place of work, we worked with Subversion, and it was simply amazing --
> light, simple, yet po
On 10/10/07, Leonid Podolny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Previously, at my previous
> place of work, we worked with Subversion, and it was simply amazing --
> light, simple, yet powerful. (And infinitely cheaper, of course.)
I agree. I haven't worked with next-gen SCMs (git etc.) but Subversion
Hi,
My employer considers switching CM (i.e. "source control") system. The
current favorite in the race is ClearCase. Previously, at my previous
place of work, we worked with Subversion, and it was simply amazing --
light, simple, yet powerful. (And infinitely cheaper, of course.)
The basic reasoni
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