Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-02 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys": > Yes, but it is impolite to force me to publisice my key. I may or may > not choose to do so. I'm sorry Shachar, but you do not have this choice. PGP is based on t

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Nadav Har'El wrote: On Sat, Aug 02, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys": In the future, please don't upload other people's keys to keyservers. Whether someone's key is published or not should be up to

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-02 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys": > In the future, please don't upload other people's keys to keyservers. > Whether someone's key is published or not should be up to that someone > to de

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Orna Agmon wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > there is a limited number of key IDs and supposedly a greater number of > > circulating keys, then there must be two keys which share the same ID. > > It is not SUPPOSEDLY a greater number of keys. If your key is1

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-02 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 12:31:45PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > In the future, please don't upload other people's keys to keyservers. > Whether someone's key is published or not should be up to that someone > to decide. It is considered impolite to upload someone elses' key. If the key is no

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 06:31:25PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: If you are the owner of one of these keys and can instruct me (and others) from which keyserver to download them, I'd appreciate it. I just sent an email with the keyring for all of the people who register

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-02 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: First, I'll nitpick a little - you must put at least two pigeons in at least one hole, you don't necessarily have a hole with exactly two pigeons :-) The exact phrase of the pigeonhole principle is that if n pigeons try to enter a pigeonhouse with m holes, there wi

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Alexander Maryanovsky
I'm going to jump into the middle of this discussion not having read it from the beginning so I apologize upfront if I say something stupid or unrelated because of this. The birdhouse principle says that if one is trying to put n+1 birds in n bird-houses, then you must put 2 birds in at least o

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Orna Agmon wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > BTW, how does GnuPG know how to generate a unique key ID? I thought the > > server assigned it a key ID out of its key pool. Surely, if any GPG > > program generates key IDs independetly there will be some collision

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 08:17:53PM +0300, Orna Agmon wrote: > > The KEY ID cannot be unique. It can be well distributed, such thatkeys > that vary a little have a very different KEY ID, but since it holds a lot > less information than the actual key, there is no way of it being uniqe. > Bird house

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Orna Agmon
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > there is a limited number of key IDs and supposedly a greater number of > circulating keys, then there must be two keys which share the same ID. It is not SUPPOSEDLY a greater number of keys. If your key is 1024 bit long, you will need 64 hexa signs to exp

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Shaul Karl wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 08:17:53PM +0300, Orna Agmon wrote: > > > > The KEY ID cannot be unique. It can be well distributed, such thatkeys > > that vary a little have a very different KEY ID, but since it holds a lot > > less information than the actual key,

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Shaul Karl
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 08:17:53PM +0300, Orna Agmon wrote: > > The KEY ID cannot be unique. It can be well distributed, such thatkeys > that vary a little have a very different KEY ID, but since it holds a lot > less information than the actual key, there is no way of it being uniqe. > Bird house

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 06:31:25PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > If you are the owner of one of these keys and can instruct me (and others) > > from which keyserver to download them, I'd appreciate it. > > I just sent an email with the keyring for all

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Orna Agmon wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > BTW, how does GnuPG know how to generate a unique key ID? I thought the > > server assigned it a key ID out of its key pool. Surely, if any GPG > > program generates key IDs independetly there will be some collision

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Dan Armak wrote: > On Friday 01 August 2003 20:17, Orna Agmon wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > BTW, how does GnuPG know how to generate a unique key ID? I thought the > > > server assigned it a key ID out of its key pool. Surely, if any GPG > > > programg

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 06:31:25PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote: > If you are the owner of one of these keys and can instruct me (and others) > from which keyserver to download them, I'd appreciate it. I just sent an email with the keyring for all of the people who registered to take part in the keys

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Dan Armak
On Friday 01 August 2003 20:17, Orna Agmon wrote: > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > BTW, how does GnuPG know how to generate a unique key ID? I thought the > > server assigned it a key ID out of its key pool. Surely, if any GPG > > program generates key IDs independetly there will be som

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Orna Agmon
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > BTW, how does GnuPG know how to generate a unique key ID? I thought the > server assigned it a key ID out of its key pool. Surely, if any GPG > program generates key IDs independetly there will be some collision > between two specific keys? The KEY ID canno

Re: [Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Aviram Jenik wrote: > On Friday 01 August 2003 18:31, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > when I tried to actually download the keys from a key-server and sign > > them, I discovered that some of the keys generate the following error: > > > > <<< > > shlomi:~# key=05cd5901 > > shlomi:~# gpg

[Key Signing] Problems Downloading Some of the Keys

2003-08-01 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! I recently returned from August Penguin II. It was a great event, and I enjoyed it very much. I also took part in the key signing party. However, when I tried to actually download the keys from a key-server and sign them, I discovered that some of the keys generate the following error: <<< s