> From: borissh1...@gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2023 13:48:13 +0200
> Message-ID-Hash: W5NHGXQZJVMKFFHYYY5PG4X74ONPMXEH
>
> In the view of Lifnei iver,
>
> Recently RMS had shared an alleged PFLP affiliated organization calls to
> prevent arms deals to Israel, PFLP participated in the Simhat
> From: Anton Amirian
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 21:23:54 +0300
> Cc: Omer Zak , linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> This is a literal quote from RMS
> >I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The
> >arguments that it causes harm
> seem to be based on cases which aren't volu
> From: Anton Amirian
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:56:25 +0300
> Cc: Omer Zak , linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> Honestly I'm kinda shocked that some people are more mad at him for not
> liking israeli treatment of
> palestinians than the whole pedophilia thing
There's no pedophilia thing. There's a
> From: Omer Zak
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 20:10:59 +0300
>
> > And yes, his views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are skewed and
> > sometimes border on the silly, but if you think boycotting us is
> > wrong, then why do you suggest boycotting him? Why is it that a
> > single point of disagr
> From: Dan Yasny
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 11:38:36 -0400
> Cc: Israel Linux Mailing list
>
> Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily
> surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token
> effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his
> From: Omer Zak
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 18:34:58 +0300
>
> Is he the same RMS who boycotted Israeli universities at 2011 happily
> surrendering to demands of Palestinians - without even making a token
> effort to ask if Israelis are willing to take over his trip's finances
> so that Palestinian
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 08:59:59 +0200
> From: Vordoo
>
> Turns out that there is a LSP (Language Server Protocol) which
> decouples the language integration from the rest of the text editor.
> See:
> https://www.toptal.com/javascript/language-server-protocol-tutorial
>
> And there is a LSP Mo
> From: Shlomi Fish
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 15:52:49 +0300
> Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" ,
> dan...@users.sourceforge.net
>
> Can you tell me where I can download the precise dictionary you are
> using?
>
> They are part of the mageia 7 x86-64 packages. See
> http://mirror.isoc.org.i
> From: Shlomi Fish
> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 23:11:40 +0300
> Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" ,
> dan...@users.sourceforge.net
>
> On my system that cmdline invocation gives me this on stdout:
Can you tell me where I can download the precise dictionary you are
using?
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> From: Shlomi Fish
> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 22:56:28 +0300
> Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" ,
> dan...@users.sourceforge.net
>
> I use the same dictionary downloaded years ago from the Ivrix
> project. Hunspell version is 1.3.2.
>
> Ah, I have hunspell-1.7.0 and hspell 1.4.
I don't thi
> From: Shlomi Fish
> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 20:47:29 +0300
> Cc: Linux-IL , "Nadav Har'El" ,
> dan...@users.sourceforge.net
>
> Latest version as https://packages.debian.org/sid/hspell . What is your
> OS/dist/version?
I use the same dictionary downloaded years ago from the Ivrix
projec
> From: Shlomi Fish
> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 19:49:32 +0300
>
> So I created this branch -
> https://github.com/shlomif/shlomi-fish-homepage/tree/spell-check-hebrew (note
> the
> branch name). Which adds autochecking using
> https://metacpan.org/pod/Text::Hunspell . However many
> legitimate He
> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 11:20:41 +0300
> From: Dov Grobgeld
> Cc: "Nadav Har'El" , Dotan Cohen
> ,
> linux-il
>
> I admit that I have very little knowledge about how font selection and
> reordering logic works in emacs.
Font selection has absolutely no bearing on this discussion. The
> Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 09:46:50 +0300
> From: Dov Grobgeld
> Cc: "Nadav Har'El" , Dotan Cohen
> ,
> linux-il
>
> Great! Does this mean that a major mode can now modify a markup like so
> that it is "rendered" as &FSI;&PDI; and thus have no influence on the
> chosen paragraph direction?
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 13:57:13 +0300
> From: Dov Grobgeld
> Cc: Dotan Cohen , Linux-IL
>
> Does emacs already support the relatively new UniCode isolate characters LRI,
> RLI, FSI, PDI?
The development version in the Emacs Git repository does. But not the
released versions, including the upc
> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:49:34 +0300
> From: Nadav Har'El
>
> 15 years ago, I approached the same problem in pure-text documents
> (such as emails) by inventing my own conventions (embodied in the "bidiv"
> program) which automatically determines each paragraph's direction
> in a "natural" (I t
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 16:10:19 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> IOW, my suggestion only solves the issue of editing the source file,
> while having it displayed correctly as far as the visual order is
> concerned. My suggestion doesn't so
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 14:56:55 +0100
> From: Tzafrir Cohen
>
> > > cat Makefile
> > >
> > > all test.html
> > > %.html: %.md
> > > markdown $< >$@
> >
> > Well, doesn't that work with what I suggested? You could have the
> > dir= directives in the source file; they will be ignored by Emacs
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 13:39:08 +0100
> From: Tzafrir Cohen
>
> On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 02:21:06PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
> > > > You also leave the overall direction dynamic and control
> > > > each paragraph's direction with the first
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 13:08:50 +0100
> From: Tzafrir Cohen
>
> > You can make the whole document RTL by setting a buffer-local
> > variable.
>
> How do I make this variable part of the document?
With file-local variables. For example, put this at the end of the
file:
;;; Local Variables:
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2015 02:42:48 +0100
> From: Tzafrir Cohen
>
> I'd like to write a Heberw document, get a nice result HTML and still be
> able to save the source in proper version control.
>
> I could use raw HTML, but there are better options nowadays - asciidoc,
> markdown (various implement
> From: Ori Idan
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 20:46:50 +0200
>
> > Is the C source stored on disk in UTF-8 encoding?
> >
> Yes but what's the difference? latin characters in UTF-8 are the same in
> latin1 encoding and UTF-8
No, Latin-1 and UTF-8 encodings for Latin characters are different.
You are
> From: Ori Idan
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 20:34:07 +0200
>
> I need to print several Hebrew characters (UTF-8) to the terminal.
> My locale is set to he_IL.UTF-8 so it shows Hebrew on the terminal, however
> printing from C gives me Chinese characters.
> My question is how to print one character
> From: dov.grobg...@gmail.com (Dov Grobgeld)
> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:17:09 +0300
>
> I'm using org-mode extensively during the last year, and getting Hebrew
> support helps with writing recepies and taking care of the home financies.
> There are still bugs though, e.g. like the interaction be
> From: w...@zak.co.il (Omer Zak)
> Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:11:51 +0300
>
> On Sun, 2012-06-10 at 18:56 +0300, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: Emacs & Hebrew":
> > > The Bidi has landed!
> > >
> > > Quoting https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/NEWS.24.
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:12:44 +0300
> From: Shlomi Fish
>
> Thanks, that's probably the list I had in mind.
> I though there was another list, of technologies developed in Israel (e.g.
> Intel Pentium etc).
>
> BTW - I guess my "fdlink" project (https://github.com/amosshapira/fdlink)
> also
> From: Erez D
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:29:34 +0200
>
> many times i want to know what hour i started working and what hour i ended
> e.g. when i need to submit an hour report at the end of the month.
>
> i usually keep an hours file, but many times i forget to update it
>
> i am looking for
> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:45:49 +0300
> From: Nadav Har'El
> Cc: Dotan Cohen , shac...@shemesh.biz,
> linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012, Eli Zaretskii wrote about "Re: Linux HTML mail agent
> with RTL and LTR paragraph explicit support"
> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 00:51:01 +0300
> From: Dotan Cohen
> Cc: shac...@shemesh.biz, linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> > Emacs does TRT with these two paragraphs.
>
> What is TRT?
The Right Thing.
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> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:17:27 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> > I would like to see an example of Hebrew mail that you believe cannot
> > be represented in plain text, under the conditions that such a mail
> > could be represented in plain text had it been writt
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:28:13 +0300
> From: Dotan Cohen
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> I never quoted any standard nor made any claim as to what the standard
> says. I only asked for clarification. In any case I tried to get past
> the issue of what designates the end of a paragraph as quic
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:28:33 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> > no standard really specified what in a text file is a
> > "paragraph".
> And lucky for you that they don't. Even with the simple case of a plain
> text file, a paragraph is defined differently depe
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 04:12:01 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> CC: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> On 06/25/2012 09:56 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Outlook employs a higher level protocol. It is "all paragraphs are LTR,
> >> unless the user presses CTRL+RIG
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:22:03 +0300
> From: Nadav Har'El
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012, Shachar Shemesh wrote about "Re: Linux HTML mail agent
> with RTL and LTR paragraph explicit support":
> > I disagree completely. The embedding control characters are designed
> > for, well, embedding. What th
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 21:00:07 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> CC: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> On 06/25/2012 08:13 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:02:48 +0300
> >> From: Shachar Shemesh
> >> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
> &
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:06:14 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> What the standard[1] suggests, but does not
> require, is the use of the first strong directional character in the
> paragraph.
You are wrong, it does require that. See below.
> the standard sa
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:02:48 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> > Therefore there is no
> > need for HTML to send RTL emails, nor is there technical need for the
> > email client to guess.
> Except there so no standard, de-facto or otherwise (as far as I'm aware)
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 18:21:25 +0300
> From: Dotan Cohen
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> So we have established that sections of text separated by newlines are
> paragraphs. Let us return to the issue. In a plain text file, as
> defined above, there does exist a method by which the author of
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:19:01 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> > \r\n, \r\n\r\n, or any other convention for a paragraph is arbitrary.
> Technically true, but both irrelevant and misleading. Misleading because
> the choice of \n or \r\n was arbitrary, but is now
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:42:20 +0300
> From: Dotan Cohen
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> [...] plain text has no concept of a paragraph [...]
That's not true. The UBA explicitly defines a paragraph as chunk of
text delimited by paragraph separator characters:
Paragraphs are divided by th
> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:30:47 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> CC: dotanco...@gmail.com, linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> One of the paragraphs of this email was marked as RTL for no reason
> other than a whim. Eli will not know which it was
Of course, I do.
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> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 17:14:50 +0300
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> Cc: linux-il
>
> Thunderbird with the bidiui extension. Set the style to "paragraph", and
> the directionality buttons work per paragraph
> זו, לדוגמא, פסקה עברית בתוך מייל אנגלי.
In Emacs, I don't need anything to have this par
> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:10:14 +0300
> From: Dov Grobgeld
>
>- Ability to set the Bidi base direction explicitly of each paragraph.
Paragraph direction is determined by the first letter that has strong
directionality. If this is what you want, it should happen
automatically. (It does in
> From: Omer Zak
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:55:13 +0300
>
> Nice example!
>
> It could be complicated further by having strings with mixture of LTR
> and RTL glyphs. Such as:
>
> string.tr("abcdefghijklmnopqrstuv
> From: Omer Zak
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:38:16 +0300
>
> First of all, it is GREAT that Emacs 24 has BiDi support.
Thanks.
> Simply, have Emacs continue to support programming languages, just
> without default BiDi support when editing such text.
>
> Since it is anyway good practice to loc
> From: Omer Zak
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:27:22 +0300
>
> Once we start making BiDi rendering mode dependent upon nitpicking
> details of the particular text displayed in a buffer, it is a losing
> game. There are so many special cases, you are bound to lose some
> pathological corner cases.
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:36:21 +0300
> From: Nadav Har'El
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> Like I said, try the example Perl instruction of changing aleph into
> bet:
>
> s/א/ב/
>
> See how the Bidi algorithm makes it appear as if we're changing the
> other way around - bet into aleph.
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:33:27 +0300
> From: Nadav Har'El
> Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
>
> As an example of the confusion that bidi might cause me when editing the
> Hspell source code, conside what it might to do a regular expression:
> Imagine that I wrote s/א/ב/ with the intension of switch
> From: Omer Zak
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:41:30 +0300
>
> On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 19:22 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > And since the bidirectional display for Emacs was developed in almost
> > complete isolation from this community -- not a single input or
> &
> From: Omer Zak
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:33:29 +0300
>
> > > So when one wants to view BiDi text in visual order (the usual case),
> > > one opens the file in Gedit. And when one wants to see it in logical
> > > order (e.g. to figure out how the visual order turned out to be so
> > > messed
> From: n...@math.technion.ac.il (Nadav Har'El)
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 08:50:25 +0300
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012, Omer Zak wrote about "Re: Emacs & Hebrew":
> > On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 19:05 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > You know, it is quit
> From: w...@zak.co.il (Omer Zak)
> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:57:06 +0300
>
> On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 19:05 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > You know, it is quite ironic that, having heard about a major Free
> > Software project which now fully supports bidirectional scri
> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:59:54 +0200
> From: Guy Sheffer
> Cc: e...@unix.mvs.co.il, e...@gnu.org, linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il,
> Mord Behar
>
> I can talk to the Hebrew University student union. We could organize a
> place in Givat Ram campus. I'm pretty sure I can get a decent lecture
> ha
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