On 27/10/10 23:03, Amos Shapira wrote:
On 28 October 2010 06:23, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Same flags to clone in both cases (vi sets the same flags, and both strace
and fakeroot-ng change them to the same different flags).
I'm not aware of any settings that globally affects wait's behavior.
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
> 2010/10/28 Elazar Leibovich :
> > I'm curious, since I'm having the very same problem on CentOS/RHEL. There
> > are many basic packages which just doesn't exist in the main repository
> > (say, python 2.6) and I'm not sure how to add them in
2010/10/28 Elazar Leibovich :
> I'm curious, since I'm having the very same problem on CentOS/RHEL. There
> are many basic packages which just doesn't exist in the main repository
> (say, python 2.6) and I'm not sure how to add them in a nice way to the
> distro.
> Currently I'm just `make install`
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:31 PM, geoffrey mendelson <
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Because UBUNTU is not intended for people who want to customize their
> system beyond adding or subtracting whole packages. If you want a feature
> not compiled in, you can do it, but are no longer able
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 09:10:40PM +0200, geoffrey mendelson wrote:
> And to answer another posting I can't seem to find, IMHO anyone who uses
> UBUNTU for anything except an out of the box desktop is as the old saying
> goes "cruisin' for a brusin'" (asking to be beaten up).
IIRC the Ubuntu "s
I guess I fall into the generic user category, and have no particular
intention to compile or even install stuff that is not included, but the
things you mention would be a serious problem for the serious user.
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On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Amos Shapira wrote:
That's my general impression from Ubuntu - I switched to it for my
desktops for convenience, and use CentOS for the servers at work. I
never saw them actually back-porting important patches, for instance,
not even to the alleged Long Term Suppo
On 28 October 2010 06:23, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Same flags to clone in both cases (vi sets the same flags, and both strace
> and fakeroot-ng change them to the same different flags).
> I'm not aware of any settings that globally affects wait's behavior.
SIGCHLD? (not global, but part of the "e
On 28 October 2010 07:31, geoffrey mendelson
wrote:
>
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Steve G. wrote:
>
>> And why or how is Ubuntu server different from any other linux server to
>> make it that way?
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> Because UBUNTU is not intended for people who want to customize their system
> beyo
On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Steve G. wrote:
And why or how is Ubuntu server different from any other linux
server to make it that way?
I use ubuntu on the desktop and am quite satisfied with it. I used
to use RedHat/Fedora and Suse/OpenSuse, until I ran into some
unresolvable cyclical
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 08:15:43PM +0200, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
>
> >
> > Hmmm you actually did a BadThing(tm) -- totally bypassing the package
> > management mechanisms:
> >
>
> I think his idea was not to have the APT/RPM packages in t
And why or how is Ubuntu server different from any other linux server to
make it that way?
I use ubuntu on the desktop and am quite satisfied with it. I used to use
RedHat/Fedora and Suse/OpenSuse, until I ran into some unresolvable cyclical
package requirements a number of time (when you want pro
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010, Nadav Har'El wrote about "Re: Small debian based server
distribution":
> Actually, those things *were* done, because if I remember correctly (this
> was years ago, and I can't find the code now...) I used "rpm --root" to
I just found the code - it was from 2000 ;-)
I see no
On 27/10/10 20:53, Valery Reznic wrote:
OK, you was warned :)
Yes, I was. Still
How can two programs do the same thing on the same system,
and yet get such different results?
Let's take 'read' syscall.
read(10, )
I am not talking about a single syscall that behaves diffe
On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
Hmmm you actually did a BadThing(tm) -- totally bypassing the
package
management mechanisms:
I think his idea was not to have the APT/RPM packages in this
system, shaving off some
--- On Wed, 10/27/10, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> From: Shachar Shemesh
> Subject: ptrace problem - confounded, dazed and confused at the
> inconsistencies
> To: "linux-il"
> Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 2:07 PM
> Hi all,
Hi, Shachar.
>
> I know that so much as types "man ptrace" is st
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
>
> Hmmm you actually did a BadThing(tm) -- totally bypassing the package
> management mechanisms:
>
I think his idea was not to have the APT/RPM packages in this system,
shaving off some few megabytes.
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010, Oron Peled wrote about "Re: Small debian based server
distribution":
> Hmmm you actually did a BadThing(tm) -- totally bypassing the package
> management mechanisms:
> * No dependency tracking -- you selected the packages by trial and error.
>...
> * No pre/post install
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
>
> For threads, there is a strange set of events taking place. Both for strace
> and for fakeroot-ng, the clone system call gets modified. For both, the new
> thread created has the same debugger as the parent. For strace, the debugger
> run
Hi all,
I know that so much as types "man ptrace" is stepping into uncharted
territory, that I should abandon hope all ye' who enter here, etc.
Background - I am maintainer and author of an open source program called
"fakeroot-ng"[1]. This program uses the ptrace interface in order to
fool p
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010, Elazar Leibovich wrote about "Small debian based server
distribution":
> The default installation of Debian, without X, is about 600-800 Megabytes.
> I'm looking for a debian compatible distribution (so that I'll be able to
> use debian's security updates, and enjoy the bread
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 01:20:36PM +0200, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> >
> > The Debian packages are sorted by "priorites":
> >
> > http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities
> > By default, all the "standard" packag
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> The Debian packages are sorted by "priorites":
>
> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities
> By default, all the "standard" packages are installed.
>
Thanks!
Do you happen to know what's the approximated size
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:12:20AM +0200, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
> The default installation of Debian, without X, is about 600-800 Megabytes.
> I'm looking for a debian compatible distribution (so that I'll be able to
> use debian's security updates, and enjoy the breadth of packages etc) which
>
Hi Elazar
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:12:20AM +0200, Elazar Leibovich wrote:
> The default installation of Debian, without X, is about 600-800 Megabytes.
> I'm looking for a debian compatible distribution (so that I'll be able to
> use debian's security updates, and enjoy the breadth of packages et
The default installation of Debian, without X, is about 600-800 Megabytes.
I'm looking for a debian compatible distribution (so that I'll be able to
use debian's security updates, and enjoy the breadth of packages etc) which
will be small and will contain only the bare minimum for a functional serv
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