Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > You state that, and then you delve on to prove the opposite. You lost me. > > The way I know science, we have: > - A mathematical model saying that neither galaxies nor atoms are stable if > N!=3 > - Empirical evidence that both galaxies an

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: I read the link you gave, but have not found why it does not prove it. You will, I hope, agree with me that the fact that you have not found it there does not actually mean that R^-2 => N=3... ;-) All I sa

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I read the link you gave, but have not found why it does not prove it. You will, I hope, agree with me that the fact that you have not found it there does not actually mean that R^-2 => N=3... ;-) All I said was that if you assume N=3 the

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: I'll bite - it's OT, but too much fun to skip... ;-) 2009/8/24 Shachar Shemesh : As a side note - does that prove that our universe only has three dimensions? Technically, no, though many philosophers (as opposed to physicists or mathematicians) will say it doe

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread geoffrey mendelson
On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Micha wrote: I doubt wifi is any better in this respect. WiFi is limited in Israel to 100mW EIRP (Effictive incident radiated power), so the most that could come out of a Wifi antenna would be 100mW. When I tested my BEZEQ router with a microwave oven leaka

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Michael Vasiliev
Good, now put back the context you've omitted, take your antenna specs and prove it with numbers. Solutions that will make the fly-by birds go poof or yourself arrested and your equipment seized do not count. Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Michael Vasiliev wrote: >> The power of the signal is inversely

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Micha wrote: > I don't have a link now but I saw a thread somewhere about the myth of > stealing power from powerlines with a large coil, and the calculation came > to the point if I remember the numebers correctly that you may be able to > run a 1.5v light bulb us

Fwd: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread geoffrey mendelson
Begin forwarded message: From: geoffrey mendelson Date: August 24, 2009 5:10:59 PM GMT+03:00 To: Micha Subject: Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ? On Aug 24, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Micha wrote: I don't have a link now but I saw a thread somewhere about the myth of

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Micha
On 8/23/2009 3:03 PM, Boris shtrasman wrote: Sorry for the OT , But i guess using systems in other ways then they had been designed is a bug that not only i posses. I heard a lot about wireless power transition , while I heard about products that provide close distant power transmitting (1) w

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
I'll bite - it's OT, but too much fun to skip... ;-) 2009/8/24 Shachar Shemesh : > As a side note - does that prove that our universe only has three > dimensions? Technically, no, though many philosophers (as opposed to physicists or mathematicians) will say it does. The number of dimensions doe

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Michael Vasiliev wrote: The power of the signal is inversely proportional to the square of distance. That is not precisely accurate. An undirected point source of EM radiation (or any other type of energy) transmits energy that expands on a sphere from the point of transmittal. The surface ar

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Boris shtrasman
Michael Vasiliev wrote: The power of the signal is inversely proportional to the square of distance. Why do you think such a feat would be possible? Since i don't know physics i lake the basics for this question. As i understood from googling it is possible to get some power from high powe

Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Michael Vasiliev
The power of the signal is inversely proportional to the square of distance. Why do you think such a feat would be possible? Boris shtrasman wrote: > Sorry for the OT , > > > But i guess using systems in other ways then they had been designed is > a bug that not only i posses. > > > I heard a lot

Re: New Essay - "FOSS Licences Wars"

2009-08-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 23 August 2009 16:14:28 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sunday 23 August 2009 05:43:55 you wrote: > > Hi Steve, and everybody! > > > > On Saturday 22 August 2009 21:54:35 Steve Litt wrote: > > > I think a lot of people (including me) like GPL's guarantee that > > > they're not doing unpaid work fo

Re: New Essay - "FOSS Licences Wars"

2009-08-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 23 August 2009 08:49:09 Ori Idan wrote: > > I do completely understand the attractiveness of the MIT license. It's > > simple > > and can't come back to bite you later. I'm just saying the GPL has plenty > > of > > benefits. > > > > I am not sure I understand. > > MIT license can't come b

[Herzelinux] Wireless in Linux By Rami Rosen

2009-08-24 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Hi all, After a short summer hiatus, Herzelinux club will meet again this Thursday to enjoy Rami Rosen lecture about the Linux wireless stack. The lecture will delve into the following topics: * Short history of Linux Wireless : fullmac and softmac. * Wireless Modes of operation: inf

Re: New Essay - "FOSS Licences Wars"

2009-08-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Sunday 23 August 2009 05:43:55 you wrote: > Hi Steve, and everybody! > > On Saturday 22 August 2009 21:54:35 Steve Litt wrote: > > I think a lot of people (including me) like GPL's guarantee that they're > > not doing unpaid work for Microsoft (or Apple). My experience with > > VimOutliner, whi

[OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

2009-08-24 Thread Boris shtrasman
Sorry for the OT , But i guess using systems in other ways then they had been designed is a bug that not only i posses. I heard a lot about wireless power transition , while I heard about products that provide close distant power transmitting (1) what about using public wifi in my area ?

Re: New Essay - "FOSS Licences Wars"

2009-08-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Steve, and everybody! On Saturday 22 August 2009 21:54:35 Steve Litt wrote: > On Saturday 22 August 2009 03:21:13 you wrote: > > On Friday 21 August 2009 22:07:17 Steve Litt wrote: > > > I disagree with some of your > > > conclusions, but obviously your facts are spot on. > > > > Thanks. I woul

Re: New Essay - "FOSS Licences Wars"

2009-08-24 Thread Ori Idan
> > I do completely understand the attractiveness of the MIT license. It's > simple > and can't come back to bite you later. I'm just saying the GPL has plenty > of > benefits. > > I am not sure I understand. MIT license can't come back and bite me? Correct me if I am wrong but in MIT license someo

Re: New Essay - "FOSS Licences Wars"

2009-08-24 Thread Steve Litt
On Sunday 23 August 2009 01:49:09 you wrote: > > I do completely understand the attractiveness of the MIT license. It's > > simple > > and can't come back to bite you later. I'm just saying the GPL has plenty > > of > > benefits. > > > > I am not sure I understand. > > MIT license can't come back a