[OFFTOPIC] How to reply to Israeli paranoids (was: Re: Freedom of speech online)

2006-09-08 Thread Omer Zak
If I ever bothered to be serious in replying to such accusations, I'd be more worried about Uri Even-Chen's own reputation than Israeli reputation. Every country has its own dark periods (Soviet Union's Stalin, USA's McCarthy and Bush Jr. periods, etc. etc. even if I refrain from mentioning the wo

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Nitzan
I personally think what you're doing here is very bad, people who will read this discussion on google in the next zillion years would actually think Israel is a dark and scary place to live in. if i was you i would show some personal responsibility and 1st check my "facts" with security/network e

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread marc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shachar Shemesh wrote: > When you hear hoofs, better first assume horses. I believe Uri mentioned sending from a given email address to two addresses on the same mail server, with one email arriving and the other "getting lost". Barring the question

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Amos Shapira
On 08/09/06, Uri Even-Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, I have my own mail server and there is no spam filter.  I'malso not black listed.  I sent 2 messages from Gmail (same address),to 2 different addresses on my server, and only one of them wasreceived.  I did it again, same result.  I have

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Thanks for the technical description. It sounds very similar to what > I suspect they did. Did you know it was Netvision, May I remind you, again, that I believe that what you think happened is NOT what happened? > or did you check > the IP? Your server is located at the N

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 9/8/06, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not that difficult if you recruit the ISP's cooperation (in his case - netvision). Just redirect all traffic (or just the port 25 traffic) to a filtering machine, and have it directly deliver anything that it does not want to scan. I'm not sa

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 9/8/06, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, here's how the "powers of the dark" work. There are two modus operandi, and neither seem to match what you are doing here: 1. Gathering intelligence. In this mode, the worst thing that can happen to them is that you know they are monitorin

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
On 9/8/06, marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe Uri mentioned sending from a given email address to two addresses on the same mail server, with one email arriving and the other "getting lost". That's right. Barring the question of tin-foil hats, etc, it _is_ possible and, if you ask my n

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Paranoia expels boredom (was: Re: Freedom of speech online)

2006-09-08 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 19:13 +0300, Levy, Chen wrote: > ביום שישי 08 ספטמבר 2006, 18:23, נכתב על ידי Omer Zak: > > AND, YES, THE BORG INVASION IS PLANNED TO START ABOUT TWO YEARS FROM > > NOW. > > Ah, so Vista got delayed again? Yes. If Vista weren't delayed, then the Borg would have delayed thei

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Paranoia expels boredom (was: Re: Freedom of speech online)

2006-09-08 Thread Levy, Chen
ביום שישי 08 ספטמבר 2006, 18:23, נכתב על ידי Omer Zak: > AND, YES, THE BORG INVASION IS PLANNED TO START ABOUT TWO YEARS FROM > NOW. Ah, so Vista got delayed again?

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Paranoia expels boredom (was: Re: Freedom of speech online)

2006-09-08 Thread Diego Iastrubni
ביום שישי, 8 בספטמבר 2006, 18:23, נכתב על ידי Omer Zak: > AND, YES, THE BORG INVASION IS PLANNED TO START ABOUT TWO YEARS FROM > NOW. START PREPARING NOW! actually I can confirm that one, please "apt-get dist-upgrade -y" your servers. resistance is not futile. -- diego, kde-il translation team

[OFFTOPIC] Paranoia expels boredom (was: Re: Freedom of speech online)

2006-09-08 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 17:46 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Aviram Jenik wrote: > > Common, being paranoid is fine, but you don't have to do it in a public > > Linux > > mailing list. People reading the archives might take you seriously. > > > Aw, come on. What's the fun in being paranoid insi

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Aviram Jenik wrote: > Not only is it very difficult to pull off technically, Not that difficult if you recruit the ISP's cooperation (in his case - netvision). Just redirect all traffic (or just the port 25 traffic) to a filtering machine, and have it directly deliver anything that it does not wan

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: > OK, I want to clarify some things: > > 1. My mail server is configured correctly. Don't you just love axioms. > 2. After I wrote about it to a friend (from Gmail), they found out, > and stopped the censorship within a few minutes. Or the transient error got better. > 4. I ha

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread GW
I know that everybody thinks it, but I am gonna be the one to say it. You are just paranoid. Don't you think that both goverments has nothing better to do then to monitor / block emails from a person who said that soldiers are criminals on his website ? You are small fish. Relax, take a vaca

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Friday 08 September 2006 15:27, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > I have reasons to believe the > Israeli government is censoring me. You've got to be kidding me. Not only is it very difficult to pull off technically, it is ridiculous to think that the barely functioning Israeli government (BTW: what m

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
OK, I want to clarify some things: 1. My mail server is configured correctly. 2. After I wrote about it to a friend (from Gmail), they found out, and stopped the censorship within a few minutes. 3. I did again the same test, this time received both messages instantly. 4. I had the feeling that

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Sorry, I have my own mail server and there is no spam filter. I'm > also not black listed. I sent 2 messages from Gmail (same address), > to 2 different addresses on my server, and only one of them was > received. I did it again, same result. I have reasons to believe th

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Sorry, I have my own mail server and there is no spam filter. I'm also not black listed. I sent 2 messages from Gmail (same address), to 2 different addresses on my server, and only one of them was received. I did it again, same result. I have reasons to believe the Israeli government is censo

Re: Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 02:06:32PM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Recently I was politically active and published opinions against the > formal policy of the government of Israel. I don't want to get into > details about my opinions, or if it's legal or not to express them. > Wha

Freedom of speech online

2006-09-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi everybody, Recently I was politically active and published opinions against the formal policy of the government of Israel. I don't want to get into details about my opinions, or if it's legal or not to express them. What I want you to know, is that recently I had some feeling that not all my

Re: Red Hat SysAdmin Course

2006-09-08 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
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