Re: Looking for another ISP (a bit off topic)

2006-04-20 Thread Gadi Cohen
Nadav Har'El wrote: what's really wrong with that? How is that any different than what happens in any other utility like phone, cellphone, electricity, water, and so on? I think the great thing about the internet is specifically that we're *not* billed for volume.  That's separates the

Re: Don't Panic! (OT) Netvision

2006-04-20 Thread Ariel Biener
On Thursday 20 April 2006 20:37, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > Ariel, > > > Knowing that you're quite a veteran in this field, I'm feeling you must > have inner knowledge which leads you to conclude that ISPs and TV > companies have the noble goal of providing customers with the best value > for their

Re: Konqueror wants to use Firefox

2006-04-20 Thread Oded Arbel
On Tuesday, 18 בApril 2006 15:45, Shlomo Solomon wrote: > When I click a link, while in Konqueror, I often > (not always) get a notification that the HTML document will be opened > in Firefox. > I would expect > that if I'm ALREADY in Konqueror, links would be opened in Konqueror. You might wan

Re: Don't Panic! (OT) Netvision

2006-04-20 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
Ariel, Knowing that you're quite a veteran in this field, I'm feeling you must have inner knowledge which leads you to conclude that ISPs and TV companies have the noble goal of providing customers with the best value for their money, rather than maximizing shareholders value. Is this so?

Re: Don't Panic! (OT) Netvision

2006-04-20 Thread Ariel Biener
On Thursday 20 April 2006 19:22, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > The bandwidth capabilities from israel won't be depleted 20 years from now > (med). They have the capability they just want to earn more on you. Yet, that bandwidth is not available to the ISPs, they have to buy the links, and Med Nautilus nee

RE: Don't Panic! (OT) Netvision

2006-04-20 Thread Tzahi Fadida
We'd better start using tags :) \begin{joke} Or I should get a better "sensor" of humor :) Regards, tzahi. > -Original Message- > From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:27 PM > To: Tzahi Fadida > Cc: 'Israel Linux Mailing list' >

Re: Domestic VoIP service of BezeqInt

2006-04-20 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
Followup: Also don't expect them to sell you the service unless you're already a subscriber to BezeqInt's Internet service at 1.5M or higher. Hey, I tried subscribing, talked to two different salesmen of theirs -- What's the deal?! The service isn't free (in fact, you'd be paying good money f

Re: Don't Panic! (OT) Netvision

2006-04-20 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > I am sorry, but I don't agree with your logic. It was a joke. Of course, it's flawed logic. :-) Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 IL Fax: 972-2-648-1443 U.S.

RE: Don't Panic! (OT) Netvision

2006-04-20 Thread Tzahi Fadida
I am sorry, but I don't agree with your logic. If there will be less usage the companies will buy less bandwidth and earn more. You are not expected to get a better service. Their logic will be, if you tolerate and pay for your service now you will continue to do so later when they'll cut the bandw

Re: Looking for another ISP (a bit off topic)

2006-04-20 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Looking for another ISP (a bit off topic)": > Hi, > I just saw the news in > ynet:http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3241600,00.html - Netvisionhas > started charging extra for users who downloaded over 5GB a month. > Naturally, since I'm tes

Don't Panic! (OT) Netvision

2006-04-20 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
I called Netvision and asked them about the Y-Net article. I spoke to someone who did not speak English well, but her English was better than my Hebrew. I have a 5m/256k connection via HOT. I am not limited to the amount of downloads I make, nor will I be "fined" for extra useage. This topic was

Re: debian 2.6 install and adsl

2006-04-20 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 04:54:41PM +0300, Avraham Rosenberg wrote: > On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 03:34:08PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > >Have you read the latest DWN? It could be that you can jump right to the > > 21st century, leaving 32 bit behind. > > > Hi, > Ta

Re: Security holes in Firefox and Mozilla Web browsers

2006-04-20 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Thursday 20 April 2006 15:20, Omer Zak wrote: > The recent news about multiple security vulnerabilities in Firefox 1.5, > and the lack of information about the Mozilla browser (the fatter older > brother of Firefox) lead me to ask what is the corresponding information > about Mozilla. > Well, I

Re: debian 2.6 install and adsl

2006-04-20 Thread Avraham Rosenberg
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 03:34:08PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, > >Have you read the latest DWN? It could be that you can jump right to the > 21st century, leaving 32 bit behind. > Hi, Tanks for the tip. I would read it NOW if only I knew what DWN means, and where it is a

Re: Security holes in Firefox and Mozilla Web browsers

2006-04-20 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 03:20:40PM +0300, Omer Zak wrote: > The recent news about multiple security vulnerabilities in Firefox 1.5, > and the lack of information about the Mozilla browser (the fatter older > brother of Firefox) lead me to ask what is the corresponding information > about Mozilla. >

Re: Looking for another ISP (a bit off topic)

2006-04-20 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 12:08 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi, > > I just saw the news in ynet: > http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3241600,00.html - Netvision > has started charging extra for users who downloaded over 5GB a month. > > Naturally, since I'm testing every now and then a new ve

Security holes in Firefox and Mozilla Web browsers

2006-04-20 Thread Omer Zak
The recent news about multiple security vulnerabilities in Firefox 1.5, and the lack of information about the Mozilla browser (the fatter older brother of Firefox) lead me to ask what is the corresponding information about Mozilla. Should I now ditch Mozilla in favor of Firefox 1.5.0.2 (which has

Looking for another ISP (a bit off topic)

2006-04-20 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, I just saw the news in ynet: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3241600,00.html - Netvision has started charging extra for users who downloaded over 5GB a month. Naturally, since I'm testing every now and then a new version of various Linux distributions, plus some other heavy bandwidth