Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
UE>> happens in Wikipedia and it happens in the police, army or any system UE>> where people have power. But in Wikipedia there is nowhere to complain. UE>> Nobody will do anything to people who abuse their power. So UE>> eventually, I think Wikipedia is corrupt. You won't believe if I told you

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about "Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & > Jimmy Wales": > > Believe me, I know. Uri, I am sorry, I don't think this particular argument sounds very convincing... ;-) > But the fact is that anybody (including you a

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all, and especially the P linguistics among you. > > I seem to remember that writing bad regular expressions could result in > non-linear (to say the least) processing time. I cannot, however, find > any reference to it, nor an example. > > Can an

Re: Looking for impl of pthread_atfork

2005-12-08 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm looking for a version of pthreads for Linux that has the API > pthread_atfork implemented. > > I'm using an Intel Xeon Hyperthread machine with two 3.20GHz CPUs. > Kernel version is 2.6.4-52.smp. Current pthread/glibc library is > 2.3.3-97. I re

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about "Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales": > OK, you asked for an example, you got it. Look at the history of > "שיחה:אריאל שרון" from 28 May 2005. There were comments by an anonymous > user which were deleted by the system administrators. Read th

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Nadav Har'El
This doesn't have much to do with Linux, but since most people interested in free software are also interested in free content, I hope that people aren't too upset about this thread of discussion. On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about "Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales": > There i

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
OK, you asked for an example, you got it. Look at the history of "שיחה:אריאל שרון" from 28 May 2005. There were comments by an anonymous user which were deleted by the system administrators. Read the discussion and then read the comments that were deleted. http://he.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?t

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi Shachar, I'm sorry, Uri, but when raising such serious allegations, i.e. that you were banned based on the fact that you tried to correct incorrect information, There is no absolute "incorrect information". There are opinions. I tried to change something that was wrong in my opinion, and

Re: XFS Mount Hangs the Partition (on latest kernel + many old 2.6.x ones)

2005-12-08 Thread Nathan Scott
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:57:38PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi all! Hi there, > (Please CC me on replies) > > I encountered a problem with the Linux kernel handling of XFS, in which > attempting to mount a certain XFS partition (but not a different one on the > same hard-disk) caused the moun

Re: XFS Mount Hangs the Partition (on latest kernel + many old 2.6.x ones)

2005-12-08 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 07 December 2005 22:55, Nathan Scott wrote: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:57:38PM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi all! > > Hi there, Hi Mr. Scott (and all)! > > > (Please CC me on replies) > > > > I encountered a problem with the Linux kernel handling of XFS, in which > > attempting

Looking for impl of pthread_atfork

2005-12-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
I'm forwarding this for a colleague. Please CC Marcel on your replies. Hi, I'm looking for a version of pthreads for Linux that has the API pthread_atfork implemented. I'm using an Intel Xeon Hyperthread machine with two 3.20GHz CPUs. Kernel version is 2.6.4-52.smp. Current pthread/glibc librar

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: >Thanks for the explanation. I look forward to seeing the code. > > Belive me, so do I :-) All algorithm runs I mentioned earlier were done using a white-board. The only code currently existing is the runtime part (i.e. - running the actual strings through the already com

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 03:07:52PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > details of the matched string, only the binary question of "did/did not > match". This means that npcre is mostly aimed at security related > products, and most anyone else are better off still using what they are > using today. T

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: >On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:22:11PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > > >>I've started working on (another) regular expression library. What makes >>this one unique is that it uses a deterministic automata for the >>matching. This means that it is much less useful for pars

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Shachar Shemesh wrote: > >> Care to give specific examples, so we can form an independent opinion? >> The articles you tried to fix, as well as the username you were using, >> would be greatly appreciated. > > > I prefer not to give specific examples. I refer to Wikipedia i

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
By the way... A friend of mine has a name which is slightly similar to a Wikipedia operator. He tried to register to Wikipedia but was immediately banned just because of his name. If you think that's not an evil dictatorship then what is? Uri. --

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Care to give specific examples, so we can form an independent opinion? The articles you tried to fix, as well as the username you were using, would be greatly appreciated. I prefer not to give specific examples. I refer to Wikipedia in general and not to specific example

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 01:22:11PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I've started working on (another) regular expression library. What makes > this one unique is that it uses a deterministic automata for the > matching. This means that it is much less useful for parsing, and it may > require a lot

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
First, thanks, that contained what I was looking for. I'll explain why I asked anyways. I've started working on (another) regular expression library. What makes this one unique is that it uses a deterministic automata for the matching. This means that it is much less useful for parsing, and it may

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Ido Kanner
Quoting Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ido Kanner wrote: > > >Hi Shachar, > > > >How about this regex ? :) > > > > > I don't know. I can't decipher it. > > >^(? > > > Unless you're trying to say that the "(" is optional, what does a > standalone question mark mean? I would say that th

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 11:55:41AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I seem to remember that writing bad regular expressions could result in > non-linear (to say the least) processing time. I cannot, however, find > any reference to it, nor an example. > > Can anyone give, off the top of their head

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ido Kanner wrote: >Hi Shachar, > >How about this regex ? :) > > I don't know. I can't decipher it. >^(? > Unless you're trying to say that the "(" is optional, what does a standalone question mark mean? >:\<([0-9]+)\>)?(?:([A-Za-z]+))?(?:([\d ]\d) >)?(?:(\d+))?(?:([0-9]+:[0-9]+:[0-9]+(?:\.[0-9

Re: ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Ido Kanner
Hi Shachar, How about this regex ? :) ^(?:\<([0-9]+)\>)?(?:([A-Za-z]+))?(?:([\d ]\d) )?(?:(\d+))?(?:([0-9]+:[0-9]+:[0-9]+(?:\.[0-9]+)?) )?(?:([^ :]+) )?((?:(?:([^ \[\:]+)(?:\[([0-9]+)\])?:)? )?(.*)) BTW I found it as part of DoS code that was written last year... Ido Quoting Shachar Shemesh <[

ineffective regular expressions

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, and especially the P linguistics among you. I seem to remember that writing bad regular expressions could result in non-linear (to say the least) processing time. I cannot, however, find any reference to it, nor an example. Can anyone give, off the top of their head, a regular expressio

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005, Uri Even-Chen wrote about "Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales": > Wikipedia is not free. Wikipedia is operated by people, with hierarchic > ranks, who control it. Anything in the articles which doesn't fit their > agenda will be removed or modified, and any person whom

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 10:34:09AM +0200, Uri Even-Chen wrote: > Wikipedia is not free. Wikipedia is operated by people, with hierarchic > ranks, who control it. Anything in the articles which doesn't fit their > agenda will be removed or modified, and any person whom they don't like > (for any

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Even-Chen wrote: > You can't correct falsehoods in Wikipedia. Believe me, I tried. If the > editors ("system operators") don't like what you wrote, it will be > changed back and you will be banned. Wikipedia is a dictatorship. > There is no way to appeal on a system operator's decision to b

Re: [off topic] Wikipedia & Jimmy Wales

2005-12-08 Thread Uri Even-Chen
Hi Nadav, Can you explain why you recommend reading those sites, much of which appear to be the writings of a nudnik at best, or a raving lunatic at worst? Wikipedia's method of operation is well-known. Nothing written on it comes with any promise of being correct. But, unlike much of the rest o