Hi,
Frankly, I prefer the "Two step approach"-
Well ,after reading the (quite many) responses and talking to him this seems
to be what he is convinced to do. (at least at work, where he cannot afford
himself spending time trying to solve technical problems in linux where an
immediate solution i
my dad is 82 and he is fine on the command line
I walked him thru some file system checking the other day on the phone
- then again he's a PhD in System Science from UCLA (not a typical
user) :-)
danny
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:57:40AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
On 5/
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:57:40AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> On 5/9/05, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > But my mother won't appreciate command-line at all (and so would I, if
> > > I'll have
> > > to explain to her what to do with it over the phone).
> >
> > Slightly OT:
> >
>
On 5/9/05, Amit Aronovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Amos Shapira wrote:
> >This should be possible to do also on Windows (there is nothing special
> >about the Linux kernel), only it haven't been done yet. People
> >can probably come up with many reasons (one I can think of is the
> >proprietar
On 5/9/05, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 09 May 2005 11:40, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > I'm not that deep into Windows administration, I just know that, as
> > far as I noticed,
> > I never had to bother with it.
> >
>
> Well recently I heard of someone who told me MS Freecell (!!
Shlomi Fish wrote:
On Monday 09 May 2005 15:23, Amit Aronovitch wrote:
If your'e Micorosft, you might create a central distribution source
carrying Windows, Office, several games and tools, but what about
Photoshop? Doom3? Acrobat Reader? WinZip? You can't legally distribute
those without specia
On 5/9/05, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 06:40:55PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > > systems). But for example, if you browse the web with a vulnerable
> > > browser,
> > > that allows malicious sites to execute code on your machine, then all the
> > > firewall
Hi all,
This isn't more on topic than the original subject, but I allow myself
to share this very valuable information. From the NEWS file of GNU tar
version 1.15 (which isn't in Debian unstable yet, I do not even remember
how come I ran into this):
"version 1.15 - Sergey Poznyakoff, 2004-12-20
*
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 11:30:06PM +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Monday 09 May 2005 21:34, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> > Actually, MS did distribute GPLed software. NT Resource kit contained
> > perl. IIRC with sources. I don't know if recent RKits continue this
> > tradition.
>
> 1. FALSE: perl l
On Monday 09 May 2005 21:34, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> Actually, MS did distribute GPLed software. NT Resource kit contained
> perl. IIRC with sources. I don't know if recent RKits continue this
> tradition.
1. FALSE: perl license is not GPL (it's under the Artistic License)
2. TRUE: MS does dis
On Monday 09 May 2005 15:33, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:13:11PM +0300, Leonid Podolny wrote:
>
> > This macro expands to another one (at include/linux/sunrpc/cache.h) ,
> > which, in turn, expands to yet another one. I'm yet to figure out the
> > whole mechanism, but this
On Monday 09 May 2005 15:23, Amit Aronovitch wrote:
> Of course, you could add some Free Software in your distribution too -
> but you can't add GPL-licensed stuff (and GPL is the most common OSS
> license). If you do add GPL stuff, you'll have to make all the other
> stuff open source too - so
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 08:16:40PM +0300, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Monday 09 May 2005 15:23, Amit Aronovitch wrote:
> > If your'e Micorosft, you might create a central distribution source
> > carrying Windows, Office, several games and tools, but what about
> > Photoshop? Doom3? Acrobat Reader? Win
On Monday 09 May 2005 15:23, Amit Aronovitch wrote:
> If your'e Micorosft, you might create a central distribution source
> carrying Windows, Office, several games and tools, but what about
> Photoshop? Doom3? Acrobat Reader? WinZip? You can't legally distribute
> those without special contract wi
Replying to myself, I should say that I received several messages from people
who subscribed to the feed, and found it lacking. I was aware of some of
these problems myself, but others were new to me. In any case, they are fixed
now:
1. The URL pointed by the script is now at iglu.org.il. The r
On Mon, 9 May 2005, Ira Abramov wrote:
however:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
484497aa0d7e1bb391a73cc8b42acce2 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
552bbc02b0b2b5b142a425d476f0d5c0 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
792afdaf2be839dfccc1c91dfd4f7
Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > For example IIRC the specs don't define what free((void *)0) should
> > do, so it can either return cleanly doing nothing or cause a
> > segmentation fault depending on the compiler.
>
> Or send an email to your manage
On 09/05/05 17:40, Ira Abramov wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
> 484497aa0d7e1bb391a73cc8b42acce2 -
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
> 552bbc02b0b2b5b142a425d476f0d5c0 -
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
> 792afdaf2be839dfccc1c91dfd4
On Mon, May 09, 2005, Christoph Bugel wrote about "Re: undeterministic zip?":
> >what the fsck is going on?! is gzip adding some odd time stamp or
> >something?!
>
> Indeed. Seems to be fixed with gzip -n
Exactly. Read RFC 1952 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1952.html) if you want
to learn more abo
Ira Abramov wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar icf - directory |md5sum
03ad652d93447a92eb944cd6acae0471 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar icf - directory |md5sum
03ad652d93447a92eb944cd6acae0471 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar icf - directory |md5sum
03ad652d93447a92eb944cd6acae0471 -
"i" for bzip2. still n
Ira Abramov wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
484497aa0d7e1bb391a73cc8b42acce2 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
552bbc02b0b2b5b142a425d476f0d5c0 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar zcf - directory |md5sum
792afdaf2be839dfccc1c91dfd4f726b -
what the fsck is going
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar cf - directory |md5sum
03ad652d93447a92eb944cd6acae0471 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar cf - directory |md5sum
03ad652d93447a92eb944cd6acae0471 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ tar cf - directory |md5sum
03ad652d93447a92eb944cd6acae0471 -
nothing out of the ordinary, right? on the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> For example IIRC the specs don't define what free((void *)0) should
> do, so it can either return cleanly doing nothing or cause a
> segmentation fault depending on the compiler.
Or send an email to your manager suggesting that your salary should be
revised. It may be
On Monday 09 May 2005 16:38, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> I know this is cold by now, but I was unplesantly reminded today that
> payment for work by a corportation in stock is taxed as WAGES when the
> stock is sold.
That actually depends on the option plan your company uses.
Nowadays it is co
I know this is cold by now, but I was unplesantly reminded today that
payment for work by a corportation in stock is taxed as WAGES when the
stock is sold.
So instead of paying Israeli capital gains tax (15% for a public company,
25% for a private one), you pay full income tax, health tax, nationa
On 5/8/05, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry to nitpick, but:
>
> Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
>
> >Lior Kaplan wrote:
> >
> >
> >>AP = August Penguin.
> >>
> >>VI - 4 in the Roman numbering system.
> >>
> >>
> Actually, VI is 6 in Roman. 4 is IV.
>
> >
> >Indeed.
> >
> >Sorry for go
>No need to use NNTP (if you'll find a useful NNTP server to use it
with at all).
Actually, NNTP is very useful for following floss mailing lists without
filling up your inbox (or subscribing just for the time duration of
getting some task done, and then unsubbing), using the gmane server,
whi
I'd venture to guess that it's a P1/166MMX. The only other 166Mhz Pentium was the Pentium Pro 166Mhz/512kb, and was rarely used.
Gilboa
On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 15:51 +0300, Amit Aronovitch wrote:
Erez Doron wrote:
> I have an old p2 166 mmx for giveaway.
>
Is that really a P2 ?
I think usual
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Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
>
> vomit inducing is a better word. Submit a patch to unroll these
> suckers, mayeb the maintainers would act sanely and take it (not
> counting on it though).
>
This macro acts as a sort of C++ template -- it unloops into ge
Erez Doron wrote:
I have an old p2 166 mmx for giveaway.
Is that really a P2 ?
I think usually only "pentium classic" have the suffix "mmx", because
starting with "Pentium Pro" (i686) all CPU's have the mmx instruction set.
If hamakor's taking 586mmx, I might have one of these (166Mhz I think)
l
Amos Shapira wrote:
It's been ages since I used nntp, but I'll give it a try.
No need to use NNTP (if you'll find a useful NNTP server to use it with at all).
Most ISP's (at least all the ones I've ever used) provide reasonable
servers.
Generally news.yourprovider.com works fine, plus you
On Sunday 08 May 2005 15:40, you wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I tried to convince somebody I know to move to Linux at home and
> at work. I am myself an advocate user of Linux at work and at home.
>
> He works with a XP at work (a hightech company; however , he is
> not a programmer) ,an
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:13:11PM +0300, Leonid Podolny wrote:
> This macro expands to another one (at include/linux/sunrpc/cache.h) ,
> which, in turn, expands to yet another one. I'm yet to figure out the
> whole mechanism, but this is really dirty. :)
vomit inducing is a better word. Submit a
Amos Shapira wrote:
Debian (and other distro's) convenience is that it packages many utilities
and add-ons in an easy uniform interface to download/install/config.
This should be possible to do also on Windows (there is nothing special
about the Linux kernel), only it haven't been done yet. People
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Leonid Podolny wrote:
> As I see, I have here a function that has a prototype, is called four
> times, but has no implementation! :) However, it assembly code exists in
> svcauth_unix.o. Any ideas where did it come from? :)
I think we figured this one
I think that something is misunderstood here. If you have a closed
source, that does not mean that you cannot find bugs to
exploit looking at the binaries. Those that are in the know,
knows ( :) ) its not that hard once enough time is invested.
OTOH if you have an open source software you can take
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] leonid $ find /usr/src/linux -follow -name "*.[ch]" | xargs
grep -RnH ip_map_lookup
/usr/src/linux/net/sunrpc/svcauth_unix.c:152:static struct ip_map
*ip_map_lookup(struct ip_map *, int);
/usr/src/linux/net/sunrpc/svcauth_unix.c:208:
On Sun, 8 May 2005, Dan Kaspi wrote:
this can be easiy changed; moreover, he claimed that since Linux is an open
source,
maybe it is even easier to develop viruses/spyware to it. In this point
I did not know what to answer him. I am not a
security expert; it could be that he is right in this point
On Monday 09 May 2005 11:29, you wrote:
> On 08/05/2005, at 15:40, Dan Kaspi wrote:
> > I tried to convince somebody I know to move to Linux at home and
> > at work. I am myself an advocate user of Linux at work and at home.
>
>
>
> > He argued that migrating to Linux will takes time because
On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 06:40:55PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > systems). But for example, if you browse the web with a vulnerable browser,
> > that allows malicious sites to execute code on your machine, then all the
> > firewalls in the world won't prevent your machine from getting infected by
On Mon, 9 May 2005, Erez Doron wrote:
I have an old p2 166 mmx for giveaway.
anyone knows a name of an amuta for the needy i can give the computer to ?
i looked up a thread on the issue but couldn't find any amutot's names.
Yes, give it to "HaKoach Latet" and dedicate it for Hamakor. We use these
On Mon, May 09, 2005, Erez Doron wrote about "OT: computer for givaway":
> I have an old p2 166 mmx for giveaway.
>
> anyone knows a name of an amuta for the needy i can give the computer to ?
>
> i looked up a thread on the issue but couldn't find any amutot's names.
Amutat Hamakor (hamakor.org
On 5/9/05, Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But there's always a possibility. In Windows, it's impossible to keep several
> versions of the same DLL due to the lack of symbolic links. And most packages
> come in installers, that install all the required DLLs along with the
> programs. (ther
On 08/05/2005, at 15:40, Dan Kaspi wrote:
I tried to convince somebody I know to move to Linux at home and
at work. I am myself an advocate user of Linux at work and at home.
He argued that migrating to Linux will takes time because you need to
learn
many new things; The security solutio
On Mon, May 09, 2005, Amos Shapira wrote about "Re: Moving to Linux":
>...
> Debian (and other distro's) convenience is that it packages many utilities
> and add-ons in an easy uniform interface to download/install/config.
>
> This should be possible to do also on Windows (there is nothing special
I have an old p2 166 mmx for giveaway.
anyone knows a name of an amuta for the needy i can give the computer to ?
i looked up a thread on the issue but couldn't find any amutot's names.
thanks,
erez.
=
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On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 12:21:26PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > 5. Integrability - everything can be made to work together.
>
> As far as people are concerned - Windows does a better job of this right now.
> A couple of days ago a fellow programmer told me "On Windows you just
> double-click and
Quoting Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Shachar,
>
> Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Let's get one thing clear. NOTHING results in undefined behavior. If
> > anything resulted in undefined behavior, it would have been impossible
> > to pass it between caller and callee.
On 5/9/05, Alex Behar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good morning Amos,
> LD_DEBUG (as of early glibc 2.3 versions IIRC), LD_LIBRARY_PATH and LD_PRELOAD
> do not work on SUID binaries, unless you are root.
That's what I said. I didn't give a comprehansive list of envariables
but otherwise - what's n
On 5/9/05, Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
>
> >Shachar,
> >
> >
>
> >I don't understand this statement. I suspect that you have a different
> >mental picture of "undefined behavior". The official "definition of
> >undefined behavior" is that *anything* may hap
This Monday (9/5/2005), 18:30, the Haifa Linux Club will once
again meet to hear Eli Billauer talk (again, because it was such a
good lecture) about:
Quick and Dirty Bash
Abstract
This lecture is a quick and unformal guide to scripts and sophisticated
commands in Bash. Th
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