Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Dan Armak
On Sunday 08 June 2003 01:10, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:25:38PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote: > Content-Description: signed data > > > On Saturday 07 June 2003 21:04, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > > > Use custom installtion. Ditch stuff you don't need. > > > > > > Tried that. I

Re: FS/OS in schools: why don't *they* tell us what they want?

2003-06-07 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
NH>> Anyway, if you consider C++ an extension of C, studying C first NH>> is time well spent. Of course, if the teacher will emphasise I think this is very wrong. C++ is not an extension of C, even though C++ syntax is an extension of C syntax. Teaching C++ as extension of C is a very wrong path t

Re: FS/OS in schools: why don't *they* tell us what they want?

2003-06-07 Thread Stanislav Malyshev
VV>> the best programming language? Is it widely used? Well, yes, it VV>> is, but will it be widely used in five years? I guess, yes. Last three times of five years nothing happened that made C irrelevant. What is going to happen in next five years that will? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ Ther

Next Perl Mongers Meeting: this thursday

2003-06-07 Thread Gabor Szabo
As it was in the past year every month, the Israeli Perl Mongers continoue to have their monthly meetings. Our meetings are mostly technical. On every meeting we have 1-3 presentations about some interesting technique in Perl or about a subject relevant to our programming needs. Then we chat about

Re: Miki Eitan's IT Chug

2003-06-07 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi Daniel, Being as it is that Hamakor is currently trying to find a project leader for pushing this thing directly with someone in the MoE, I think this effort HAS to be coordinated. I'm having a meeting tonight with people from the Kinneret group, in an attempt to find people there who will

Re: Unsetting GTK_RC_FILES in KDE on Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-07 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > On Saturday 07 June 2003 16:39, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Now they exist in the entire global KDE configuration but I could not > > trace where they came from no matter how hard I tried. How do I eliminate > > them or at least eliminate the first two ele

Miki Eitan's IT Chug

2003-06-07 Thread Daniel Feiglin
Shalom all! A few months back I mentioned that I had been in contact with MK Miki Eitan about his IT Chug, which is wider than just IT. (I am a memeber of the Merkaz HaLikud, Chativat Manhigut Yehudit) In a brief email exchange with Miki Eitan last week, I raised again, the issue of the use of

Communicating problems with rh8 httpd server.

2003-06-07 Thread Stiven Andre
Hi List. May be the post is a little OT becouse the problem may as well be in the ISP(as I guess). So here is the situation: I have a rh8 server that is connected by ADSL provided by internet zahav. The server runs apache httpd server and some other services. The problem is that some people are un

Re: First beta of Samba 3.0.0 available for download

2003-06-07 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Sunday 08 June 2003 05:31, nadav mavor wrote: > The Samba Team is proud to announce the availability of the > first beta release of the Samba 3.0.0 code base. While > we are significantly closer to the final release, I will > remind you that this is a non-production release provided for > testi

Re: Unsetting GTK_RC_FILES in KDE on Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-07 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Saturday 07 June 2003 16:39, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Now they exist in the entire global KDE configuration but I could not > trace where they came from no matter how hard I tried. How do I eliminate > them or at least eliminate the first two elements and leave the one inside > my home directory? W

First beta of Samba 3.0.0 available for download

2003-06-07 Thread nadav mavor
the new samba server !!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Samba Team is proud to announce the availability of the first beta release of the Samba 3.0.0 code base. While we are significantly closer to the final release, I will remind you that this is a non-production release prov

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > But what happens when you want to make a change in the system? You'll > have to install the whole build environment once again? or re-attach the > hard-disc to a different computer? Both options sound very > time-consumng. I've done this too many times, in too many ways to

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Sunday 08 June 2003 00:07, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > > >I belive he's evaluating cxoffice 2.0.1. > > > > Is that the 030521 build? > I'm not sure how to tell, but the changelog.txt says the version is 2.0.0 (I installed it almost 2 weeks ago, so I doubt it's a May 21 bu

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Saturday 07 June 2003 23:52, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > Aviram - What version of CX are you using? Is this the one Hetz posted > here all that time ago, or the newly released one? I'm evaluating the latest version (2.0.0 released on 21/4/2003). If there's a better older version, I'll be happy

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Aviram Jenik wrote: Hi, I'm currently evaluating CX office, and I'm liking what I'm seeing. However, there's one thing that really bugs me. I can run Word with a Hebrew locale (he_IL.UTF-8), and it writes Hebrew perfectly, while writing English poorly (it's stuck in "Hebrew" mode). Hmm, I

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:25:38PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote: Content-Description: signed data > On Saturday 07 June 2003 21:04, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > > Use custom installtion. Ditch stuff you don't need. > > > > Tried that. It's not granular enough. > > Gentoo is great for setting up a sy

Re: ANN: rdesktop (CVS) with X clipboard support

2003-06-07 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 11:56:21PM +, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: [snip] > > Not in DIAL UP connection, and LBX is a joke. And rdp isn't? For dialup, the best thing I know is mlview . It's basically another X compressor (like LBX), based on the old dxpc, bu

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Is that the 030521 build? cxoffice 2.0.1 build == wine 20030318 Thanks, Hetz Hmm, I don't have that build. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> > Is that the 030521 build? > cxoffice 2.0.1 build == wine 20030318 Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAI

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Who? Me? Aviram - What version of CX are you using? Is this the one Hetz posted here all that time ago, or the newly released one? What Linux are you using (Redhat? Something else? What version?) I belive he's evaluating cxoffice 2.0.1. Hetz - at the time, you collec

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 09:04:56PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: [snip] > > No, I what I really wanted, was: > > 1. Linux kernel > 2. X > > With 32m of ram and a 486/66 to play with, I was just going to use it as > an Xterminal. 1. Did you consider a tiny distribution? T

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Who? Me? > > Aviram - What version of CX are you using? Is this the one Hetz posted > here all that time ago, or the newly released one? What Linux are you > using (Redhat? Something else? What version?) I belive he's evaluating cxoffice 2.0.1. > Hetz - at the time, you collected a list of bugs

Re: ANN: rdesktop (CVS) with X clipboard support

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Actually, there is, but I don't think it's that useful. > I never tried it myself. > It's available as a patch to rdesktop - look at doc/patches.txt > in the source distribution. Ok. > May I ask what you want it for? I think an X server (such as the one > for cygwin, or a commercial one) is bet

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 09:04:56PM +0300, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > A large ramdrive simplfies the installer: everything is run from a > > standard location. But you can use the "textmode installer" which (I > > believe) also has smaller memory requirements. Is it an i

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: In each of those, I see Word's "HE" or "EN" sign in the menu, but I can't switch from one to the other. Does anyone know how I can solve this? I think Shachar is working on bidi. Shachar - any comments? Thanks, Hetz Who? Me? Aviram - What version of CX are you using

Re: ANN: rdesktop (CVS) with X clipboard support

2003-06-07 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 10:24:12PM +, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > On Saturday 07 June 2003 19:23 pm, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > client + server or client only? > > > > ביום ראשון, 8 ביוני 2003, 00:51, Hetz Ben Hamo כתב: > > There is no RDP server for Linux (I wish there was) Actually, there is, bu

[OT] Test

2003-06-07 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi Gang, I appologise for this unwanted traffic. I had to test my address due to recent IGLU Mail Server problems. It seems I no longer get the Linux-IL mails... Sorry, again, Amichai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Dan Armak
On Saturday 07 June 2003 22:25, Dan Armak wrote: > On Saturday 07 June 2003 21:04, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > > Use custom installtion. Ditch stuff you don't need. > > > > Tried that. It's not granular enough. > > Gentoo is great for setting up a system on another box (in a chroot) and > then

Re: Unsetting GTK_RC_FILES in KDE on Mandrake 9.1

2003-06-07 Thread Amir Hardon
On Saturday 07 June 2003 16:39, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Hi! > > I recently re-installed my Mandrake 9.1 system only to discover that this > galaxy theme messes up my entire configuration. The problem is namely, > that the path variables are: > > GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/Galaxy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:/et

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Dan Armak
On Saturday 07 June 2003 21:04, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > Use custom installtion. Ditch stuff you don't need. > > Tried that. It's not granular enough. Gentoo is great for setting up a system on another box (in a chroot) and then moving it over. It's extremely granular and if you compile w

Re: Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> However, there's one thing that really bugs me. I can run Word with a > Hebrew locale (he_IL.UTF-8), and it writes Hebrew perfectly, while writing > English poorly (it's stuck in "Hebrew" mode). > > I can run it with the "C" locale, and it writes English perfectly, but > Hebrew poorly. Well, the

Re: ANN: rdesktop (CVS) with X clipboard support

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Saturday 07 June 2003 19:23 pm, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > client + server or client only? > > ביום ראשון, 8 ביוני 2003, 00:51, Hetz Ben Hamo כתב: There is no RDP server for Linux (I wish there was) Thanks, Hetz To unsubscribe, sen

Re: ANN: rdesktop (CVS) with X clipboard support

2003-06-07 Thread Diego Iastrubni
client + server or client only? ביום ראשון, 8 ביוני 2003, 00:51, Hetz Ben Hamo כתב: > Hello People, > > The rdesktop project is keep being developed (lots and lots of reverse > engineering).. > > I would like to announce a snapshot version which I can be downloaded from > my machine: http://witch.d

Hebrew with Crossover office

2003-06-07 Thread Aviram Jenik
Hi, I'm currently evaluating CX office, and I'm liking what I'm seeing. However, there's one thing that really bugs me. I can run Word with a Hebrew locale (he_IL.UTF-8), and it writes Hebrew perfectly, while writing English poorly (it's stuck in "Hebrew" mode). I can run it with the "C" local

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 12:36:42AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > i can offer NetBSD as a good and stable system for an old hardware, > > they have very good support. > > and they have more packages than OpenBSD. Well, the problem here is not

Those mechanics

2003-06-07 Thread Eli Billauer
20 car mechanic experts decided to make a conference about advanced motoric techniques in a hotel at 20:00. 5 refused to come, because their cars work on natural gas, and they can't refill their tanks frequently enough to make it back and forth. They sent a letter to the conference, urging ever

Re: announce: SendSMS 3.4

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> The problem is that ping does not work on URLs. It only works on > hostnames. You should use wget for URLs or ping the hostname. Yeah, big "fadiha". Next time - a shower before starting to use the computers ;) Thanks again, Hetz

ANN: rdesktop (CVS) with X clipboard support

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hello People, The rdesktop project is keep being developed (lots and lots of reverse engineering).. I would like to announce a snapshot version which I can be downloaded from my machine: http://witch.dyndns.org/rdesktop/rdesktop-cvs-20030706.tar.bz2 This version has experimental RDP-5 support

Re: announce: SendSMS 3.4

2003-06-07 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sat, 7 Jun 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > hmm.. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] hetz]$ ping http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms > ping: unknown host http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms > The problem is that ping does not work on URLs. It only works on hostnames. You should use wget for URLs

Re: announce: SendSMS 3.4

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> $ ping http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms > PING http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms (132.68.115.2): 56 data > bytes index.html from 128.139.6.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=250 time=91.8 ms > nadav.jpg from 128.139.6.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=250 time=151.6 ms > uparrow.jpg from 128.139.6.1: icmp_seq=

Re: announce: SendSMS 3.4

2003-06-07 Thread Diego Iastrubni
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ping http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms ping: unknown host http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms it may be a isp problem... בשבת, 7 ביוני 2003, 21:17, Ira Abramov כתב: > Quoting Hetz Ben Hamo, from the post of Sat, 07 Jun: > > hmm.. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Linux distro for old computers

2003-06-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > A large ramdrive simplfies the installer: everything is run from a > standard location. But you can use the "textmode installer" which (I > believe) also has smaller memory requirements. Is it an issue of not > using a ramdrive? > > I figure that for Redhat the situation is

Re: announce: SendSMS 3.4

2003-06-07 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Hetz Ben Hamo, from the post of Sat, 07 Jun: > hmm.. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] hetz]$ ping http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms > ping: unknown host http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms $ ping http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms PING http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sends

[OT] Some nostalgia to donate

2003-06-07 Thread Ira Abramov
Howdie people. I'm moving and I intend to get rid of a lot of old junk. I have a box full of old and semi-old Linux Journals I have no idea what to do with other than recycle, and I have and Apple /// in working condition, with a monitor, lots of floppies (Apple ][ emulator, Business basic, AppleW

Re: FS/OS in schools: why don't *they* tell us what they want?

2003-06-07 Thread linux_il
On Friday 06 June 2003 16:25, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, Jun 06, 2003: > > I have a feeling that schools are a very important goal - see how Mac's > > survived for so long simply because they managed to take over the > > American schools section. > > Why are you so keen

Re: announce: SendSMS 3.4

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
hmm.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] hetz]$ ping http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms ping: unknown host http://nadav.harel.org.il/software/sendsms Perhaps you could host it in IGLU, Hamakor, whatsup please? ;) Thanks, Hetz On Friday 06 June 2003 10:17 am, Nadav Har'El wrote: > I released today a ne

Re: kde3.1.2 in mdk9.1

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Friday 06 June 2003 22:22 pm, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > cool... update to cooker... i will keep my 9.1 for me it was un update > of 191 mb. how big was it for you? Heh, long live apt-rpm (for RedHat) and the RPMS from http://kde-redhat.sf.net - theose guys are updating the fixes every few

Re: is there a known bug with kde 3.1 and xdmcp

2003-06-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Does anyone know anything about it? I did not have these problems in my > previous KDE version 3.0] Are you using redhat? if so, upgrade to KDE 3.1.2 (use apt-rpm from http://freshrpms.net) which can be grabbed from http://kde-redhat.sf.net Thanks, Hetz ===

Re: C flame (was: FS/OS in schools)

2003-06-07 Thread Voguemaster
On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 17:49:39 +0300, Vadim Vygonets wrote: I wasn't talking about speed and overhead, I was talking about all the different features of C++. Vadik. How do you consider those features as "bloating" ??? Those features are great for good program design. Eli -- Using M2, Opera's r

Re: C flame (was: FS/OS in schools)

2003-06-07 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003, Herouth Maoz wrote about "Re: C flame (was: FS/OS in schools)": > Quoting Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Let's face it, when you teach someone to drive its enough to teach them > > to use the pedals and the steering-wheel. But when you teach someone to > > become

Re: C flame (was: FS/OS in schools)

2003-06-07 Thread Vadim Vygonets
Quoth Voguemaster on Sat, Jun 07, 2003: > Well, I'm no expert in Perl but I know enough C++ to quickly dismiss > your comments about it being bloated. Yes, it DOES have some overhead, > but it is extremely negligible. In terms of performance, you only need > to know what you're doing to get the sam