On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:58:19PM +0200, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:15:04PM +0200, Matan Ninio wrote:
> > I'm very happy to here this. I would be even happier if I would
> > understand what I need to do to get this to work with my bidi-emacs.
> > Have you looked into the p
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
Here is my take for a structured argument:
The argument usually presented in regard for making sub-standart sites
that only work for a specific browseris that statistics show that the
% of users using this product is so big that the economical incentive
to make a stan
> "Shachar" == Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Shachar> Please help me with a set of reasons why making the site
Shachar> actually work with Mozilla is in their best interests.
I can think of two arguments:
(1) I don't want to see the Leumi site work with Mozilla. I want
Oron Peled wrote:
It is extremly important, especially with respect to security
updates. We don't want to create extra 100 vulnerable sendmails
out in the wild now, do we?
No reason to have a listening sendmail on the installed machines. We
install machines that have 0 (zero, nada, zilch, gurnish
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:41:20 +0200 (IST)
> Alon Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
> > > Is it a bare RH8 or are some extra/newer packages installed?
> >
> > I'll bring a CD of updates that will be installed
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:41:20 +0200 (IST)
Alon Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
> > Is it a bare RH8 or are some extra/newer packages installed?
>
> I'll bring a CD of updates that will be installed to anyone who asks for it.
It is extremly importan
Well, Mozilla =! Linux
Mozilla (and other gecko browsers) are used also on Mac and on Windows.
As more and more people are getting tired of IE security problems, more
and more people, on many platforms, are using Gecko browsers.
Also, if the sites is focused on standards, he will not have to ru
On 2003/03/10 16:03, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Only about 1% of the people who browse the internet do so from Linux
> (http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist.html).
> My site (http://www.shemesh.biz), which was published mostly on Linux
> related forums (here through my sig, Wine, Haifux) gets about
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:15:04PM +0200, Matan Ninio wrote:
> I'm very happy to here this. I would be even happier if I would
> understand what I need to do to get this to work with my bidi-emacs.
> Have you looked into the possibility of interfacing with emacs ispell
> like? being the center of
please don't CC: me, I read the first one just fine.
[EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Mon, 10 Mar:
> Quoting Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > users on linux
> > blind users
> > users on palm
>
> Is Palm standards-compliant? Last that I heard of it it had terrible Hebrew
> problems.
it
Ah, your advocacy is for a *simpler* site, not a *standard* site. These two
things are different. Do we want to put the effort in convincing the man to give
up his gadgets and toys?
IMHO, this is the best thing we have to come with.
I would go for "simplicity means business". A bank shouldn't
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for
> Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen
> (though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and
> has the authority to
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
> On 2003-03-10, Orr Dunkelman wrote:
> > We are going to install: RH 8.0.
> >
> Is it a bare RH8 or are some extra/newer packages installed? It would
> at least make sense to ensure good Hebrew.
I'll bring a CD of updates that will be installed to an
Quoting Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> users on linux
> blind users
> users on palm
Is Palm standards-compliant? Last that I heard of it it had terrible Hebrew
problems.
> sticking to standards means it will work on older browsers as well (MSIE
> 4 and 5 anyone?)
Which standards do you mean
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Hi all,
I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for
Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen
(though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and
has the authority to order a change if he is convi
For a person that actually cares about accessing his bank account via
the web, being able to do so from the software he uses is very
important. I wouldn't change to a bank that forced me to move physically
just to get information or give orders.
And being exposed to the security concerns related
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> I think I will have a case, unless he pulls some activex from the hat
> that does authentication. I can still claim that the old site is around,
> and that one hole is enough, but that will leave me with a poor case.
You mean there might be an activ
Gabor Szabo wrote:
Maybe if you say that:
I am NOT a client of Leumi because an important service of the bank
is not accessible for me
would be more convincing ?
Gabor
I will certanly say that the Amuta has a bank account at Hapoalim
because they support Linux. The thing is that it is cl
Ok, let me play devil's advocate here, then.
Assaf Flatto wrote:
here are some
1 ) the market is slowly moving toward Linux and so are the people using
the online banking , by blocking the site to the primary browser I that
environment - you may be damaging your clients and alienating them .
On
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> >
> If the fact that I am the client of Leumi Bank and an important service
> of the bank is not accessible for me because of some stupid management
> decisions doesn't sound convincing enough for him I seriously doubt you
> can convince him by any o
> Hi all,
>
> I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for
> Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen
> (though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and
> has the authority to order a change if he is convinced.
>
>
Quoting Shachar Shemesh, from the post of Mon, 10 Mar:
> I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for
> Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen
> (though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and
> has the authority t
here are some
1 ) the market is slowly moving toward Linux and so are the people using
the online banking , by blocking the site to the primary browser I that
environment - you may be damaging your clients and alienating them .
2 )The first direct bank ( hayashir harishon ) is a subsidiary of the
Hi all,
I am meeting the person in charge of the internet infrastructures for
Leumi Bank in about two weeks. This is someone who seem ready to listen
(though it doesn't sound as if it is going to be easy to convince), and
has the authority to order a change if he is convinced.
Now I need ammun
Quoting Beni Cherniavsky, from the post of Mon, 10 Mar:
> > this Wed. (12/3, sorry for the short notice), starting 16:00, Technion.
> >
> Aha! That's why I missed all previous ones - I wasn't subscribed to
> linux-il :-). Seriously, there is some visibility problem - by the
in theory there is a
Hi!
The FORWARD table: (full example script is in
http://damyen.technion.ac.il/~dani
# We forward for established sessions
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
# The following line will ensure that tcp connections from the masqueraded net
# are set with the correct
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Beni Cherniavsky wrote:
> I want to help installing rather than get installed :-) - do I
> register in the same form? Should I bring anything?
Just give us your details, send an email to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
and orr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and tell us when you can arrive
(Wedn
On 2003-03-10, Orr Dunkelman wrote:
> Yes.
>
> We are going to hold an insta-party.
>
> this Wed. (12/3, sorry for the short notice), starting 16:00, Technion.
>
Aha! That's why I missed all previous ones - I wasn't subscribed to
linux-il :-). Seriously, there is some visibility problem - by the
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:45:07PM +0200, Orr Dunkelman wrote:
> Yes.
>
> We are going to hold an insta-party.
>
> this Wed. (12/3, sorry for the short notice), starting 16:00,
> Technion.
And taking place on Thursday, 16:00-21:00 as well. Same place.
As a side note, Hamakor will finally be ac
Sorry for the laziness,
but I'll appricate if you can drop the iptable's line which set the ppp's mtu to the clients.
Thanks,
Tomer.
Dani Arbel wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Lately I have fixed a problem with ADSL and internal network that had the
nature of being non consistant (e.g. coming and g
I'm very happy to here this. I would be even happier if I would
understand what I need to do to get this to work with my bidi-emacs.
Have you looked into the possibility of interfacing with emacs ispell
like? being the center of the computational creation, the One True
Editor is an excellent plat
Yes.
We are going to hold an insta-party.
this Wed. (12/3, sorry for the short notice), starting 16:00, Technion.
Registration is mandatory if you want to promise you'll get installed.
We are going to install: RH 8.0.
More info:
http://linux-day.il.eu.org
or
http://www.haifux.org/linuxday
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> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:54:46AM +0200, Eli Segal wrote:
> > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 09:25:28AM +0200, Eli Segal wrote:
> > >
> > > I am also interested to know how exactly are you compiling the
> > > packages. Please give as detailed instructions as possible.
> > >
> >
> > well to get hebr
Eli Segal wrote:
I don't know how well Abiword works out of the box in sid
but now you have to compile it with bidi, and take a long root to install
the fonts for it
i'm using debian sarge
Then your quest can almost end now. Since Sid packages are probably
compiled with Hebrew support already,
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