"Open Source, Free Software and Other Beasts"

2003-02-28 Thread Shlomi Fish
This is an essay I wrote about the open-source world. It covers the history, the various terms involved and several other issues. Your comments and suggestions are very welcome. (even very simple ones). The URL is: http://fc-solve.berlios.de/oss-fs/docbook/ Regards, Shlomi Fish

RE: set vecation

2003-02-28 Thread kfir lavi
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2003-02-28 Thread kfir lavi
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2003-02-28 Thread Kfir Lavi
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Re: CONFIG_MODVERSIONS [Was: Re: webcam driver]

2003-02-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> So he maitains the driver but doesn't release the source? if the > source is available, recompiling for each kernel you want to support > is rather trivial. If the source was available, then there wouldn't be any issue of insmod -f ... No, the source is not available, nor the documentation for t

Re: CONFIG_MODVERSIONS [Was: Re: webcam driver]

2003-02-28 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 12:37:53AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Did you (or anyone else) consider reverse engineering the driver? is > > documentation available? > > Well, I don't know how much (if any) got to reverse engineer the algorithm > inside. There are no documentation available, as t

Re: CONFIG_MODVERSIONS [Was: Re: webcam driver]

2003-02-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> It's the Unix philosophy to give you enough rope to shoot yourself in > the feet. I certainly do not object to it. I do believe in informed > decisions - just telling people to 'use insmod -f, it works' without > mentioning the risks is inappropriate. > > Did you (or anyone else) consider reverse

Re: CONFIG_MODVERSIONS [Was: Re: webcam driver]

2003-02-28 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:02:16PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > The pwcx-i386.o module itself worked for me when insmod -f without any > problems on several kernels. I also tested it on kernel 2.5.61 and it worked > without a problem with insmod -f > > And yes, I know it's dangeous, but: > >

Re: CONFIG_MODVERSIONS [Was: Re: webcam driver]

2003-02-28 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:48:15PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > Does CONFIG_MODVERSIONS relevant to this discussion? > > CONFIG_MODVERSIONS > Usually, modules have to be recompiled whenever you switch to a new > kernel. Saying Y here makes it possible, and safe, to use the > same modules

RE: Hardware Exchange

2003-02-28 Thread kfir lavi
i think its good idea. how can we do it? mailing list? posting site? > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alon Altman > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:44 PM > To: Linux-IL > Subject: OT: Hardware Exchange > > > > All these hardware swap

OT: Hardware Exchange

2003-02-28 Thread Alon Altman
All these hardware swapping threads give me the idea that we should open some site for hardware trading, so cyclic deals could be performed, etc... What do you think? Alon -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I

Re: CONFIG_MODVERSIONS [Was: Re: webcam driver]

2003-02-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Does CONFIG_MODVERSIONS relevant to this discussion? > > CONFIG_MODVERSIONS > Usually, modules have to be recompiled whenever you switch to a new > kernel. Saying Y here makes it possible, and safe, to use the > same modules even after compiling a new kernel; this requires the > progra

CONFIG_MODVERSIONS [Was: Re: webcam driver]

2003-02-28 Thread Shaul Karl
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 07:54:41PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 03:26:15PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > > You don't need it to match your kernel - just use insmod -f to install the > > module. I'm using the module (I assume you mean pwcx-i386.o) on several > > kerne

Re: MORE equipment ;-)

2003-02-28 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Quoth Hetz Ben Hamo: > > > > 1. TWO >667MHz SLOT-1 processors with matching revision numbers > > Are you sure that such processors exists? I thought that up to 500 Mhz intel > used Slot 1 and then moved back to socket Yes. In fact, there exist SLOT-1 processors up to 1GHz. -- ---OFCNL

Re: MORE equipment ;-)

2003-02-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> > 1. TWO >667MHz SLOT-1 processors with matching revision numbers Are you sure that such processors exists? I thought that up to 500 Mhz intel used Slot 1 and then moved back to socket Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, sen

MORE equipment ;-)

2003-02-28 Thread Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader
Let's do MORE equipment. ;-) Would like to exchange the following: 1. TWO 500MHz PIII (matching revisions) - SLOT-1 2. ONE 550MHz PIII - SLOT-1 3. ONE 667MHz PIII - SLOT-1 4. ONE 466MHz Celeron - Socket 370 + Intel desktop MB for: 1. TWO >667MHz SLOT-1

Re: webcam driver

2003-02-28 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 03:26:15PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > You don't need it to match your kernel - just use insmod -f to install the > module. I'm using the module (I assume you mean pwcx-i386.o) on several > kernel builds on Redhat 7.3 and on Redhat 8.1 RC5 - works perfectly. Use insmod

Re: webcam driver

2003-02-28 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> when i bought a camera that wasn't supported under linux (eventually i > found an alpha-grade driver that was just in the beginning of being > written, and did nothing) - i passed the camera to a windows machine, and > used what i learned form the attempt of installing a non-working camera - > to

Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)

2003-02-28 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
Oops, sorry, I accidentally tested this on a Redhat 7.2 (!), on which I had kdebase-2.2.2. I will check it on Redhat 8.0 later tonight. If Konqueror can show Niqqud, it's great news :) On KDE 3.1 /MDK 9 it can display Hebrew diacritics, albit with slight positiong problems (for example, the diacr

Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)

2003-02-28 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
>>Can anybody else confirm this? Was anybody able to view Niqqud correctly on Mozilla? For an example, try it on Genesis 1: Mozilla's diacritics support varies widely between platform- the best is on Widows, the worst on Mac (Linux is in the middle), althugh none is perfect. Here are a few ope

Re: webcam driver

2003-02-28 Thread Alon Altman
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, guy keren wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Alon Altman wrote: > > > Hi, > > Anyone know of a linux driver for a USB webcam called "twinklecam"? > > Windows identifies it as "CIF USB CAMERA 2110". Google search returns > > nothing of use. > > when i bought a camera that wasn't

Re: webcam driver

2003-02-28 Thread guy keren
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Alon Altman wrote: > Hi, > Anyone know of a linux driver for a USB webcam called "twinklecam"? > Windows identifies it as "CIF USB CAMERA 2110". Google search returns > nothing of use. when i bought a camera that wasn't supported under linux (eventually i found an alpha-g

Re: top level project directory

2003-02-28 Thread guy keren
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > Let's say that I have a complex project, using many Makefiles. In some > of them, I'd like to refer to other directories of the project. So > far, I've been using various combinations on ../, ../../, etc, but > that's awfully brittle when you start mo