pine and utf-8 again

2002-07-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
My standard rant about pine and UTF-8 Some progress: It seems that pine inserts '^' marks into the message for some reason. In many cases there is a caret between the two UTF8 bytes of a char, and therefore the char is unreadable. So to view UTF-8 text, I have to do something like piping the mes

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Oleg Kobets
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > On Sunday 07 July 2002 14:00, Oleg Kobets wrote: > >>Hi! >> >>Actually, I have KDE 3.0.2 installed on Debian SID. Hebrew do not work >>at all. I get a weird font problem. And there is another dumb issue. >>Some of kde dependant programs do not install since apt-get complain

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Arie Folger
On Sunday 07 July 2002 17:37, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:00:53PM +0300, Oleg Kobets wrote: > > Actually, I have KDE 3.0.2 installed on Debian SID. > > As to 2.2 KDE programs, basa. Maybe there'll be some KDE3 compatibility > package finally, though it really would be nic

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Arie Folger
But Muli says he compiled KOffice from sources and Hebrew works perfectly. You should check whether it is pure and simple an xfs issue. Arie On Sunday 07 July 2002 07:18, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Sun, Jul 07, 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote about "Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...": > > Actually, I have K

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:00:53PM +0300, Oleg Kobets wrote: > Hi! > > Actually, I have KDE 3.0.2 installed on Debian SID. Hebrew do not work > at all. I get a weird font problem. And there is another dumb issue. > Some of kde dependant programs do not install since apt-get complains it > need

Re: (OFF TOPIC) Re: Mortage/Saving analisys script

2002-07-07 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002, Guy Baruch wrote about "(OFF TOPIC) Re: Mortage/Saving analisys script": > > this is OT for linux-il, but anyone trying the script should consider > some of the following. > > > 1) this is a very nice idea, thanks for the effort. I guess you guys don't read spam, do you

Re: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 22:46, Moshe Zadka wrote: > On 07 Jul 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am quite sure that NSA (IAD) have Windows code and work on securing > > it. No, I don't know that. ;-) > > The NSA has actually two branches. > The "hush hush we don't exist" bra

Re: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Moshe Zadka
On 07 Jul 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am quite sure that NSA (IAD) have Windows code and work on securing > it. No, I don't know that. ;-) The NSA has actually two branches. The "hush hush we don't exist" branch, and a branch that was formed to protect americans (goverm

Re: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Guy Baruch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > you can (in my oppinion should) mention the american NSA's secure linux: > > http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.html > > a technical part of the american inteligence community choose a free > dev-model > > and linux as a platform devellop a secure system.

RE: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Shaul Karl
--- Forwarded Message From: "Haim Ravia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Shaul Karl'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 19:25:33 +0300 A. I was invited due to the fact that I'm dealing with Internet & Computer law. B. I

Re: new SendSMS release

2002-07-07 Thread Alon Altman
For users of my sendsms (versions ending with a) - I've updated my version with Nadav's changes. Now on http://ilsendsms.sf.net/ Alon -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) --

(OFF TOPIC) Re: Mortage/Saving analisys script

2002-07-07 Thread Guy Baruch
this is OT for linux-il, but anyone trying the script should consider some of the following. 1) this is a very nice idea, thanks for the effort. 2) 1% saving interest as default is way too low, today even without bargaining you can get 2.25% for a bi-yearly program (and still be shafted), 2.

Re: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Shaul Karl
> > Shalom, > > I was invited to a hearing, which will take place next Sunday > (14-7-2002) in the Science committee of the Knesset, regarding "Open > Source Systems in the Israeli Government". > > Al ze ne'emar: Yemot Hamashiach. > > I will be extremely thankful if you could direct me to any

Mortage/Saving anlisys script

2002-07-07 Thread Lior Kesos
I wrote a little python script that analyzes the rent VS buying a house conflict in Israel ... I'm aware of it's naiveness - with changing $ rates,changing prime and changing moods silvan & klein but I've found it to be usefull when making financial descssions. Please feel free to send me and

Re: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:36, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > I was invited to a hearing, which will take place next Sunday > (14-7-2002) in the Science committee of the Knesset, regarding "Open > Source Systems in the Israeli Government". Taking into account that the minister of defense has announced in r

Re: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Guy Baruch
you can (in my oppinion should) mention the american NSA's secure linux: http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.html a technical part of the american inteligence community choose a free dev-model and linux as a platform devellop a secure system. this will probably interest most MKs better than scien

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Sunday 07 July 2002 14:00, Oleg Kobets wrote: > Hi! > > Actually, I have KDE 3.0.2 installed on Debian SID. Hebrew do not work > at all. I get a weird font problem. And there is another dumb issue. > Some of kde dependant programs do not install since apt-get complains it > needs 2.2.2 version

RE: A little bit OT: A very wierd resolving problem...

2002-07-07 Thread Nir Siminovich
Hi all, True, True, and as I know the Technion's network, that can happen about 3 times a day. See what happens when I'm no longer there ? ;-) Gilad, send me a private e-mail, I need to talk to you about something. Nir Simionovich -Original Message- Fr

Re: A little bit OT: A very wierd resolving problem...

2002-07-07 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 16:25, Orr Dunkelman wrote: > > I've been encountering a very strange problem lately. Under .il.eu.org > there are sevreal domains (like linuxclub.il.eu.org). > > Sometimes, one of the domains there is unaccessible. however, this is a > partial unaccessbility. (weird, told

RE: A little bit OT: A very wierd resolving problem...

2002-07-07 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Thanks for the quick reply. 1 - I'll try. 2 - I'll try. However, the problematic record is 4 month old... Thus, I gave it sufficient time to propogate and updated around the world... and as for 3&4-as I said - 4 month to propogate seems enough to me... On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Nir Siminovich wrote:

Re: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Christoph Bugel
> I will be extremely thankful if you could direct me to any scientific or > non-biased research and news regarding the following issues: > > The adoption of Open Source Systems in other western countries. > > The qualities of Open Source Systems as far as data security is > concerned. There is

RE: A little bit OT: A very wierd resolving problem...

2002-07-07 Thread Nir Siminovich
Hi Orr, Here are a few strings of wire you can investigate and try: 1. Try changing the serial number in the zone file, and then reload the DNS server. I've also noticed that if you were to add the NOTIFY flag in named.conf it can help other slave servers (if any) to force a zo

RE: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Katriel Traum
Does anyone know if this is an open hearing? +Katriel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: eai oauai 07 eaie 2002 14:37 To: Linux-IL Mailing List Subject: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd) -

Re: [off Topic]RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Shachar Shemesh
But it's the wrong side of LA from the good sushi. Shachar Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: >On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:16, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > >>$ whois 169.254.0.0 >>IANA (NETBLK-LINKLOCAL) >> Internet Assigned Numbers Authority >> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 >> Marina del Rey

A little bit OT: A very wierd resolving problem...

2002-07-07 Thread Orr Dunkelman
I've been encountering a very strange problem lately. Under .il.eu.org there are sevreal domains (like linuxclub.il.eu.org). Sometimes, one of the domains there is unaccessible. however, this is a partial unaccessbility. (weird, told you!): A) Not all the pages I tried to access get the DNS erro

RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Michael Sternberg
Title: RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected? Well, I did not thought that my humble question will cause such storm of feelings :) Another question then (and don't start another Linux/Windows war after that question): I have a Linux machine that uses dhcpcd for DHCP req

Re: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 03:16:28PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On 7 Jul 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:43, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > > > > > > > Is it advisable in case of such failure to start computer with a ra

[gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! (fwd)

2002-07-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:33:29 +0300 From: Haim Ravia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gnubies-il] The Knesset will discuss Open Source! Shalom, I was invited to a hearing, which will take place next Sunday (1

[off Topic]RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:16, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > $ whois 169.254.0.0 > IANA (NETBLK-LINKLOCAL) >Internet Assigned Numbers Authority >4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 >Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695 >US BTW, as someone who actually been at Admirality Way in Marina del Rey I can tell

Re: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 03:16:28PM +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On 7 Jul 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:43, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > > > > > Is it advisable in case of such failure to start computer with a random > > > static IP and continue to look for DHCP ser

Re: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Shachar Shemesh
I think windows uses 192.168.x.x That a RFC 1918 unassigned address range. Shachar Tzafrir Cohen wrote: >On 7 Jul 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:43, Michael Sternberg wrote: >> >> >>>Is it advisable in case of such failure to start computer wi

RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:16, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On 7 Jul 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > > On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:43, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > > > > > Is it advisable in case of such failure to start computer with a random > > > static IP and continue to look for DHCP server in backgr

RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On 7 Jul 2002, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:43, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > > > Is it advisable in case of such failure to start computer with a random > > static IP and continue to look for DHCP server in background ? > > This way the boot process will be at least continue

Re: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 02:30:13PM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 13:15, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > > I read from the dhcpcd manual that: > > dhcpcd will not fork into background until > > it gets a valid IP address in which case dhcpcd

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote: > Hi! > > Actually, I have KDE 3.0.2 installed on Debian SID. [ It is not yet in SID, right? See http://www.debian.org.il/debian_il/1025357689/index_html for installation instructions until it is. > Hebrew do not work > at all. I get a weird font problem.

RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 15:43, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > Is it advisable in case of such failure to start computer with a random > static IP and continue to look for DHCP server in background ? > This way the boot process will be at least continued.. Choosing addresses at random is verbotten an

RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Michael Sternberg
Title: RE: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected? Is it advisable in case of such failure to start computer with a random static IP and continue to look for DHCP server in background ? This way the boot process will be at least continued..                 Mich

Re: run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sun, 2002-07-07 at 13:15, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > I read from the dhcpcd manual that: > dhcpcd will not fork into background until > it gets a valid IP address in which case dhcpcd > will return 0 to the parent process. In a case >

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002, Oleg Kobets wrote about "Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...": > Actually, I have KDE 3.0.2 installed on Debian SID. Hebrew do not work > at all. I get a weird font problem. And there is another dumb issue. > Some of kde dependant programs do not install since apt-get complains it

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Oleg Kobets
Hi! Actually, I have KDE 3.0.2 installed on Debian SID. Hebrew do not work at all. I get a weird font problem. And there is another dumb issue. Some of kde dependant programs do not install since apt-get complains it needs 2.2.2 version libs and those cannot be installed since I have 3.0.2 ve

run dhcpcd in the background, even when disconnected?

2002-07-07 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
When I boot my RH73, it runs dhcpcd that tries to find a dhcp server around and aquire an IP address for me. However, if I fail to connect to the LAN on time, dhcpcd fails and does not try again ever (unless I run it manually). I read from the dhcpcd manual that: dhcpcd wi

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:44:51AM +0300, Guy Baruch wrote: > IIRC output of gcc-3.1 is not binary compatible with output of gcc-2.9x > (I'm not sure if it's just for C++ or also for C as well) The C++ ABI (Application(?) Binary Interface) changed for the 3.0 gcc release, and was fixed for the 3.

Re: KDE 3.0.2 is out, but...

2002-07-07 Thread Guy Baruch
IIRC output of gcc-3.1 is not binary compatible with output of gcc-2.9x (I'm not sure if it's just for C++ or also for C as well) Shaul Karl wrote: > >What sense of not binary-compatible do you refer to? > -- -- regards +