Re: Gamatronic UPS

2002-03-05 Thread Kenneth G. Kay
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It's not what they've told me. > More or less exact answer I've got from them , is that I have to pay > additional fee > and that is pretty expensive program. ( Probably this stems from the fact , > that > Gamatronic's UPS has no serial port that co

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Shlomi Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want > to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer > Networks farm. If I start X from the console and lock it, then a malicious > user can switch to the console f

Re: No more windows ??

2002-03-05 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Amir Tal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Didn't know if I should laugh or cry when I saw a post at Newsforge that > says the following : > > "Microsoft management is now threatening to stop shipping Windows > completely if the next federal court decision goes against them" > > How real, and how l

Re: No more windows ??

2002-03-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Uri Bruck wrote: > > > > On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Uri Bruck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think the newsforge article misses an important point. From the article: > > > > > > " > > > I have friends who work for Microsoft, and they are p

Re: No more windows ??

2002-03-05 Thread Uri Bruck
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Uri Bruck wrote: > > > > > > > I think the newsforge article misses an important point. From the article: > > > > " > > I have friends who work for Microsoft, and they are perfectly nice people. > > But I'm sorry, this is over the l

Re: No more windows ??

2002-03-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Uri Bruck wrote: > > > I think the newsforge article misses an important point. From the article: > > " > I have friends who work for Microsoft, and they are perfectly nice people. > But I'm sorry, this is over the line. A company that makes this kind of > threat in response t

Re: remember OpenMail?

2002-03-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi People, > > Do u remember HP's OpenMail which has been dead now? > > It's baaccck... > > (with a new name - Samsung Contact): http://samsungcontact.com/en/index.php > > Available as beta 2 for AIX, HP-UX, and of course - Linux... > > Enjoy (ye

remember OpenMail?

2002-03-05 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi People, Do u remember HP's OpenMail which has been dead now? It's baaccck... (with a new name - Samsung Contact): http://samsungcontact.com/en/index.php Available as beta 2 for AIX, HP-UX, and of course - Linux... Enjoy (yeah, right..) Hetz ===

Re: Opera 6

2002-03-05 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On Sunday 03 March 2002 17:42, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Use biditext :-( reverses each word, but not per line, I mean you see (sorry for the logical hebrew): áñãø äëì, òåìí ùìåí? usable but not that much. I tried opera6 beta1 last weekend, and it renderes walla! the best of every other linux brows

Re: Gamatronic UPS

2002-03-05 Thread Shaul Karl
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > > > Hi, I'm now the proud owner of a Gamatronic 600va UPS. It comes > > with a windows program to shut down the computer. > > > > Does anyone know of a program for linux? > > > > Their web site was very unhelpful, not only was there nothing the

Re: Gamatronic UPS

2002-03-05 Thread Uri . Shenderovich
It's not what they've told me. More or less exact answer I've got from them , is that I have to pay additional fee and that is pretty expensive program. ( Probably this stems from the fact , that Gamatronic's UPS has no serial port that could be connected to PC, instead , they use some other tech

Re: No more windows ??

2002-03-05 Thread Uri Bruck
I think the newsforge article misses an important point. From the article: " I have friends who work for Microsoft, and they are perfectly nice people. But I'm sorry, this is over the line. A company that makes this kind of threat in response to requests that it follow the basic rules of free e

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Max Kovgan
-=O0~O0=- "He took his vorpal sword in hand: Long time the manxome foe he sought - So rested he by the Tumtum tree. And stood awhile in thought." [L.Carrol "Jabberwacky"] On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Christoph Bugel wrote: > > [1] "run

RE: No more windows ??

2002-03-05 Thread Amir Tal
I thought about doing that in the first place, but went for the other option. Anyway, you are right. Your suggestion is more related to the community and this mailing list. Fixed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Erez Doron Sent: Tuesday

Re: No more windows ??

2002-03-05 Thread Erez Doron
you poll is wrong you should ask if we want microsoft to stop shipping windows or not. regards erez. Amir Tal wrote: > Didn't know if I should laugh or cry when I saw a post at Newsforge that > says the following : > > "Microsoft management is now threatening to stop shipping Windows > compl

No more windows ??

2002-03-05 Thread Amir Tal
Didn't know if I should laugh or cry when I saw a post at Newsforge that says the following : "Microsoft management is now threatening to stop shipping Windows completely if the next federal court decision goes against them" How real, and how logic this so called "threat" sounds ? I, for one. Th

Re: Gamatronic UPS

2002-03-05 Thread Kenneth G. Kay
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > Hi, I'm now the proud owner of a Gamatronic 600va UPS. It comes > with a windows program to shut down the computer. > > Does anyone know of a program for linux? > > Their web site was very unhelpful, not only was there nothing there, > but a sear

Gamatronic UPS

2002-03-05 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
Hi, I'm now the proud owner of a Gamatronic 600va UPS. It comes with a windows program to shut down the computer. Does anyone know of a program for linux? Their web site was very unhelpful, not only was there nothing there, but a search for linux yielded a search for links. :-( The UPS faq, wa

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Christoph Bugel
> [1] "runlevel 5" is where redhat (and following it some other distros, > like Mandrake). I believe that SuSE and debian have both runlevel 3 > for graphical login. Debian has gdm, kdm (and even xdm and wdm...) as > init.d services. FYI, on my slackware box it is runlevel 4. (I don't

Re: Opera 6

2002-03-05 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> My point was not related to bidi at all: I remember that opera 4 (I > believe that even opera 5) does not allow you to set a different font for > different charsets. It only allows you to set a different font for > different HTML elements (IIRC). This meant that originally using opera > with vis

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Christoph Bugel
> > Oh, just use "exec startx" instead of "startx", and the attacker will > > have no login shell left to attack. > > > > "startx >startx.log 2>&1 > startx on the tty either. That is sort of what xdm does, too. > > > > I love it when seemingly complicated problems can be solved with basic > > UNI

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Erez Doron wrote: > runlevel 5 does also give you virtual terminals. > > just press alt-ctrl-1 and you get to VT #1 > there you can login, set the display, and do whatever you like. You can set the display, but you will only be able to connect to that display if you are autho

Re: Reverse NAT

2002-03-05 Thread Eran Levy
Hi, yes there is reverse NAT. You can read about it in the ipnatctl-HOWTO: http://www.linuxguruz.org/iptables/howto/ipnatctl-HOWTO.html#toc5 At 12:02 05/03/02 +0200, you wrote: >Is there such a thing? >If it is, where to read about this? >Thanks a lot. > >Max > >==

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Erez Doron
runlevel 5 does also give you virtual terminals. just press alt-ctrl-1 and you get to VT #1 there you can login, set the display, and do whatever you like. anyway, in runlevel 3, you can type 'startx &' and after X has started, switch to VT#1 and type exit. this will not allow anyone to enter t

[Fwd: Run Level 5]

2002-03-05 Thread Erez Doron
-- This message is for the designated recipient only, and will self destruct in 5 seconds, Please Duck beforehand. --- Begin Message --- wrong ! you get somthing like: init: process xdm is spawning too fast, disbaled for 5 minutes and you can use a virtual terminal to reconfigure X regard

Re: Reverse NAT

2002-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Maxim Kryachko wrote: > Is there such a thing? > If it is, where to read about this? > Thanks a lot. My first RTFM stop would be Rusty Russell's guides: http://netfilter.samba.org/documentation/index.html#HOWTO (specifically, the NAT howto) -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAI

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Adi Stav wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:04:19AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > > I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want > > to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer > > Networks farm. If I start X from the con

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want > to use. The most common argument against using xdm at startup ("runlevel 5" [1] is that if you change the hardware or the settings the X server may fail to load and then you get

Re: Run Level 5

2002-03-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Adi Stav wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 08:04:19AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > > I always considered Run Level 5 as a very bad idea, which I'll never want > > to use. However, I recently run into a dillema here at the Computer > > Networks farm. If I start X from the con

Reverse NAT

2002-03-05 Thread Maxim Kryachko
Is there such a thing? If it is, where to read about this? Thanks a lot. Max = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROT

Re: mtu problems?

2002-03-05 Thread Eran Levy
Hi, At 09:31 05/03/02 +0200, you wrote: >Try reducing the MTU on the internal machine to 1452, and see if the >problem goes away. If it does, you need to set a rule on iptables of the >outgoing filter to change the MSS on outgoing SYNs. I don't remeber what >it was. As I know, this iptables th