Appologies!! Was: Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Ira Abramov wrote in reply to Aviram Jenik: > > You can sue a lot of people you didn't pay to; if I give you a free > > security advise (assuming I'm a real security expert) and it causes > > oh you're giving me hypothetical situations now? I should have added a big smily he

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, guy keren wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:07:46 +0200 (EET) > > From: guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread guy keren
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > thanks for the options..what would i do without you ? ;) > telnet to port 110 works and authonticates (25 as well) > with a client - nothing. > so this is not a closed port\service problem. ok. it might mean the client is trying to do something else _befor

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread Tal Amir
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, guy keren wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:07:46 +0200 (EET) > From: guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: access problem > > On Thu, 17

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread Noam Meltzer
On Thu, 2002-01-17 at 13:30, Tal Amir wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:08:00 +0200 (IST) > > From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: access

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread Tal Amir
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:00:14 +0200 (IST) > From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: access problem > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > > > O

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread guy keren
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > > telnet your-server 110 > > > > If and when a (tcp) connection is established, try writing the following: > > > > USER username > > PASS topsecretpasswordinplaintext > > QUIT > > telnetto port's 110 and 25 works. only mail clients cant get to > authonticate

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:08:00 +0200 (IST) > > From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: access problem

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread Tal Amir
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:08:00 +0200 (IST) > From: Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Tal Amir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: the linux-il mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: access problem > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > > > h

Re: access problem

2002-01-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Tal Amir wrote: > hi all, > > this is kind of trickey, so i'll try to be as clear as i can. > i have a RH 6.2 machine at work, functioning as a mail-relay to an > exchange server sitting in the local LAN, with NAT address. > the linux machine is in a DMZ, with 1 nic, real ip.

access problem

2002-01-17 Thread Tal Amir
hi all, this is kind of trickey, so i'll try to be as clear as i can. i have a RH 6.2 machine at work, functioning as a mail-relay to an exchange server sitting in the local LAN, with NAT address. the linux machine is in a DMZ, with 1 nic, real ip. everything worked wonderfull for more then 2 ye

National Linux logos

2002-01-17 Thread Nadav Har'El
After Ira reminded us yesterday of Edo, the Israeli-flag-holding-Penguin (see www.iglu.org.il/Edo.shtml), I noticed that our neighbors on the map (you know, the ones speaking that major Bidi language) also have an amusing (and very well drawn, albeit curiously named) selection of penguins (and BSD

Re: computer hangs (was RE: The Power of Open-Source)

2002-01-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, mulix wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > > For what it's worth, I have the kscd applet running (CD player), and > > quite frequently before such a hang, the applet crashes (SIGSEGV). > > However that is not exclusive. I smell something in the KDE panel -

RE: turn off those ppp0-n (treating newbies )

2002-01-17 Thread Dani Arbel
Yes, read the HOWTO. Many people spent long hours in geting the knowledge in there, and composing the text. The least you could do is spend 10 min and read. Its all in there and in the links. Dani On Thu, 17 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > try killall pppd and read the HOWTO > > > On 17-J

Re: computer hangs (was RE: The Power of Open-Source)

2002-01-17 Thread mulix
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > let me get this straight - it's KDE that's crashing, and perhaphs also > > X, right? > > Can't say for sure. The only way to establish that would be to run a > different Window Manager for an extended period. i meant that it's not the kernel crashin

Re: computer hangs (was RE: The Power of Open-Source)

2002-01-17 Thread Daniel Feiglin
mulix wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > >>For what it's worth, I have the kscd applet running (CD player), and >>quite frequently before such a hang, the applet crashes (SIGSEGV). >>However that is not exclusive. I smell something in the KDE panel - >>perhaps one or more

Re: computer hangs (was RE: The Power of Open-Source)

2002-01-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > I have it too, plus an extra variation: Sometimes after logging out from KDE, > the system fails to "make it" back to the command line. Insead, the system > hangs, (dead keyboard and mouse), and there is nothing for but the big red > switch - fsck! > >

Re: computer hangs (was RE: The Power of Open-Source)

2002-01-17 Thread mulix
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > For what it's worth, I have the kscd applet running (CD player), and > quite frequently before such a hang, the applet crashes (SIGSEGV). > However that is not exclusive. I smell something in the KDE panel - > perhaps one or more of the applets. The tr

Re: computer hangs (was RE: The Power of Open-Source)

2002-01-17 Thread Daniel Feiglin
I have it too, plus an extra variation: Sometimes after logging out from KDE, the system fails to "make it" back to the command line. Insead, the system hangs, (dead keyboard and mouse), and there is nothing for but the big red switch - fsck! For what it's worth, I have the kscd applet running

RE: turn off those ppp0-n

2002-01-17 Thread solomon
try killall pppd and read the HOWTO On 17-Jan-2002 Nx wrote: > first i wanna 10Q 4 helping me with connecting my ADSL 2 the net > now, i after i turn it off(the progs:pppd,pptp) i cant get it back on and i > get in the ifconfig -a > ppp0,ppp1 and so on > they wont come off with the ifconfig pp

FAQ: how to ask smart questions

2002-01-17 Thread mulix
this has probably been posted here before, but based on the recent threads, it surely bears repeating: How to Ask Smart Questions: http://tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html quoting: "...hackers have a reputation for meeting simple questions with what looks like hostility or arrogance. It

Re: turn off those ppp0-n

2002-01-17 Thread mulix
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Nx wrote: > first i wanna 10Q 4 helping me with connecting my ADSL 2 the net > now, i after i turn it off(the progs:pppd,pptp) i cant get it back > on why not? what is the error you receive? please be verbose and precise in your answer. > and i get in the ifconfig -a ppp0,p

turn off those ppp0-n

2002-01-17 Thread Nx
first i wanna 10Q 4 helping me with connecting my ADSL 2 the net now, i after i turn it off(the progs:pppd,pptp) i cant get it back on and i get in the ifconfig -a ppp0,ppp1 and so on they wont come off with the ifconfig pppn down what's the problem?     PS how do i secure my box better?

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Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On 2002 January? 17 ,Thursday 08:34, Ira Abramov wrote: > great, but that's because she's a very nice person. did you try that > with Shareware? are you sure a commercial product would not have gotten > the same level of attention? and OTOH, have you never seen rude replies > from OSS developers t

Re: mount through ssh

2002-01-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Hi All > > Can any one tip me how can I open files on distant computer using ssh ? > > some kind of mount over tunnel ? There is a program called fsh to create a permanent ssh tunnel for use by several ssh commands. I'm not sure exatctly if it any be

Linux-related job offer + job database note

2002-01-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Hi everybody, Linux-related job offers have always been considered on-topic here, I believe. So here it goes: DataZoo Ltd., a small start-up developing real-time data mining applications, is looking for a programmer to work full-time on a linux-related project. Requirements: Proven experience

computer hangs (was RE: The Power of Open-Source)

2002-01-17 Thread solomon
On 17-Jan-2002 Shlomi Fish wrote: > > My KDE configuration at home sometimes cause my screen and keyboard to > hang, while the computer is still active. I don't know why, but I'd like If you ever figure this one out, I'm sure we'd all love to know why this is happening. I wrote the list about th

Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Ira Abramov
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Aviram Jenik wrote: > > Gratis software -> no money -> no "merchantability" warrenties bound by > > law. > > You can sue a lot of people you didn't pay to; if I give you a free > security advise (assuming I'm a real security expert) and it causes oh you're giving me hypothet

Re: Flaming newbies (was Re: Hebrew in Konqueror)

2002-01-17 Thread solomon
WOW - I really didn't expect to start a war. I guess I should know better - on IGLU,any spark can sometimes light a fire. Since my original answer to Erez, there have been about 30 messages in this thread. So, as the **starter** of this war, may I respectfully ask that we end the thread here and n

Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Aviram Jenik
> > Gratis software -> no money -> no "merchantability" warrenties bound by > law. You can sue a lot of people you didn't pay to; if I give you a free security advise (assuming I'm a real security expert) and it causes you damage, you can sue me. If I run over you on the street without asking yo

Re: mount through ssh

2002-01-17 Thread Michael Rozhavsky
Hi, You can install cipe and mount disk from remote computer through this vpn. Take a look at http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/cipe.html On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 02:57:13PM +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Hi All > > Can any one tip me how can I open files on distant computer using ssh

Re: mount through ssh

2002-01-17 Thread Ely Levy
nfs maybe? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > Hi All > > Can any one tip me how can I open files on distant computer using ssh ? > > some kind of mount over tunnel ? > > ==

mount through ssh

2002-01-17 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Hi All Can any one tip me how can I open files on distant computer using ssh ? some kind of mount over tunnel ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command

Re: Backing Up Windows Files With Hebrew Names Using Tar Under Linux

2002-01-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On 17 Jan 2002, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > > "Tzafrir" == Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Tzafrir> On 17 Jan 2002, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > >> Hi. > >> > >> I have a machine with Windows 95 and Linux installed on it. I > >> have the W95 (FAT) partitions mounted unde

Re: Backing Up Windows Files With Hebrew Names Using Tar Under Linux

2002-01-17 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
> "Tzafrir" == Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tzafrir> On 17 Jan 2002, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: >> Hi. >> >> I have a machine with Windows 95 and Linux installed on it. I >> have the W95 (FAT) partitions mounted under linux. I would like >> to back up the

Re: Backing Up Windows Files With Hebrew Names Using Tar Under Linux

2002-01-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On 17 Jan 2002, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > Hi. > > I have a machine with Windows 95 and Linux installed on it. > I have the W95 (FAT) partitions mounted under linux. I would like to > back up the W95 partitions using tar under Linux. Seems to be that I > once had a problem backing up W95 files w

Backing Up Windows Files With Hebrew Names Using Tar Under Linux

2002-01-17 Thread Aharon Schkolnik
Hi. I have a machine with Windows 95 and Linux installed on it. I have the W95 (FAT) partitions mounted under linux. I would like to back up the W95 partitions using tar under Linux. Seems to be that I once had a problem backing up W95 files which have Hebrew names. I don't have the machine in f

RE: A URL to an IRC channel

2002-01-17 Thread Tzahi Fadida
Just wanted to ask about the understanding about how search engines regard the IGLU and the Club website, because i saw no keywords metatags at both sites. Plus, please note that search engines like google rate a site to be displayed first on search queries, by how many links from other sites t

Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Ely Levy
err he was talking about the power of open-source not the power of free software.. he couldn't have found the problem unless he could do grep on the source which is why open source is better. as for free software it's complitly diffrent topic.. Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem

Re: Flaming newbies (was Re: Hebrew in Konqueror)

2002-01-17 Thread Ely Levy
On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Ira Abramov wrote: > > > > There is a certain agreed upon etiquette on theInternet in general (a > > > la RFC1855 - please do this bit of RTFM, you'll find it interesting > > > and useful), and on this mailing list in particular > > > (http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/52.htm

Re: A URL to an IRC channel

2002-01-17 Thread Ely Levy
if there is it's not the same way as mirc uses... I think irc:// is supported? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Hi > > Is there any way to give a URL to an IRC channel? > > I figure that mozilla/netscape has this (as it ha

Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Ira Abramov
On 17 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Microsoft disclaims all warranties, either express or implied, > including the warranties of merchantability > > How is it differentfrom your typical OSS warranty disclaimer? Gratis software -> no money -> no "merchantability" warrenties bound by law. the

Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > changed hands to license the product and they are liable for legal > > action on your part if that quick patch ruins something. > > Oh, yes? So if IE (that passed QA etc) lets a virus in that wipes my >

Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Ira Abramov
On 17 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Oh, yes? So if IE (that passed QA etc) lets a virus in that wipes my > disk including all the IP on it, I can sue M$ for damages? Yippee! like, DUHHH, ofcourse you can. problem is, the program had a click-through license that included a big disclaimer. IA

Re: The Power of Open-Source

2002-01-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > changed hands to license the product and they are liable for legal > action on your part if that quick patch ruins something. Oh, yes? So if IE (that passed QA etc) lets a virus in that wipes my disk including all the IP on it, I can sue M$ for damages?