[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm actually done quite some progress in turning the gtk text widget
> bidi, but I'm far from done yet. I also have some fundamental questions
> what base direction to give lines that contain no strong characters.
> If the text was saved as unicode it would be possible
In your letter from Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:35:59 +0200 (IST) you wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just uploaded to www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~zivav/hebrew a new version of
> biditext (a library to enable use of implicit direction hebrew with X
> application).
Very neat hack. I'm also happy to see my library being used
On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote:
>
> And the current is .27, not? So what's the prob?
You'd be surprised at the number of places where the latest
version is NOT to be found.
> IT>> Hardly obscure cryptographic weaknessess, and some have been seen "in
> IT>> t
IT>> 9.2. Known security bugs with SSH
IT>>
IT>> All versions of ssh prior to 1.2.12 had a security flaw which
IT>> If you run ssh 1.2.13 on Alpha OSF 1.3 or SCO in C2 security mode,
IT>> Versions of ssh prior to 1.2.17 had problems with authentication
IT>> 1.2.18 and later.
IT>>
"Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo" wrote:
> Oh. "Some". Which ones? RSAREF bug, that couldn't be seen in Israel?
> Obscure cryptography weakness, that in no way could make it weaker than
> telnet? Something else?
>From the SSH FAQ:
[SNIP]
9.2. Known security bugs with SSH
All versions of ss
Ira Abramov wrote:
> ssh lets me avoid having my password snooped, my remote activities
> spied upon, and let's me log in as remote root. Telnet is so passe it
> should be taken out and shot in our day and age. the client is still
> great for debugging though, by connecting to random TCP ports an
Hi,
I just uploaded to www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~zivav/hebrew a new version of
biditext (a library to enable use of implicit direction hebrew with X
application).
Changes:
Redefining XDrawImageString, as well as XDrawString (so now xterm can be
affected as well).
A script from Tzafrir Cohen to
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
> what's the diffrent between sending the e-mail or the url?
> it's stil takes one letter and it wasn't that long to be slow or anything
it shows that you give some respect to other people's wishes. also, i
don't remember that people ever complained about re
Actually I was about to go to sleep:)
but since I agree with what you said anyhow there isn't much point in
wasting time trying to explain :)
and anyhow even if we didn't say exaclly the same I agree with the fact
you know much more than me about the topic and wouldn't argue anyhow:)
what's the d
i tend to agree with ely about one thing here - there was a thread
discussing vulnerabilities in wuftpd, and he simply forwarded something
that relevant to that specific thread. this by itself adds some value to
the discussion. perhaps as a compromise, next time, ely, simply send a
reference (i.e
I agree this is getting really repeative:)
although that if guy and alex say openssh is a good program and as both
of them know much more about linux than me.
I would humbly accept thier opinion on the subject:)
ll&P
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Wed, 22 Dec 199
On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 08:46:49PM +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> > > and openssh is not good enough to be used yet
> >
> > so I don't :-)
>
> Why isn't OpenSSH good enough? I currently use it on the two
> Linux servers I run, and on both it runs smooth and leaves better
> impression than re
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
Ok. I think we've said enough both on ssh and the bugs issues.
This list is not a bugtraq list. So, unless there is a CRITICAL problem in
Linux, like a kernel bug that can be remotely abused to break in, or halt
your machine, please don't post bugs here, peop
People trying to discuss with you in a reasnble way,
and to say my opinion on the subject.
why becoming rude?am not trying to make this list into anything I think
it's related to the list if the majorty think it's not I won't post it.
why you people are so sure everyone think like you do?
and why
so next time someone ask a question about a bug or problem they encountred
and we saw the answer on other mailing list we wouldn't send it here?
ll&p
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Alex Shnitman wrote:
| On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 08:32:45PM +020
> > yea I think that if there is new software annocemnt or new linux kernel
> > realsed and it's related to the topic we talk about at the time it could
> > be forwarded
> >
>
> My god. If that's true, then let me out of this list. FAST!
No need to get off the list, just plonk him into your kill
Well beside you and me no one else gave hir opinion.
if that what the list rules are I wouldn't post any forward mail..
ll&p
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Aviram Jenik wrote:
|
| > you would feel better if I wrote it in my own words?:)
|
EL>> If you compile in on sun I would be happy to know about it:)
I used SSH on Solaris (x86, though, but they couldn't differ *so* much,
not?) for years...
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken
Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells
phone +972-3-9316425
EL>> Ohh come on...
EL>> can you compile ssh on all platforms?
Why not? Every POSIX platform could do. And for Win32 there are many
implementations too. It's open protocol, AFAIK.
EL>> ssh is not even GNU..it has some crappy licence to use it
Who cares about license? I'm not going to sell, dist
> > and openssh is not good enough to be used yet
>
> so I don't :-)
Why isn't OpenSSH good enough? I currently use it on the two
Linux servers I run, and on both it runs smooth and leaves better
impression than regular SSH - no ssh2 crap, full PAM support
and /dev/random support. Besides possi
On Wed, Dec 22, 1999 at 08:32:45PM +0200, Ely Levy wrote:
> you would feel better if I wrote it in my own words?:)
No. My take on this -- post any *original material* here, on anything
that has to do with Linux, even though there are other forums for
those specific topics; but don't *reproduce*
> you would feel better if I wrote it in my own words?:)
Obviously you totally missed what we're trying to tell you.
> yea I think that if there is new software annocemnt or new linux kernel
> realsed and it's related to the topic we talk about at the time it could
> be forwarded
>
My god. If
you would feel better if I wrote it in my own words?:)
yea I think that if there is new software annocemnt or new linux kernel
realsed and it's related to the topic we talk about at the time it could
be forwarded
ll&P
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Wed, 22 Dec 19
although I'm not sure I said part of the things I said were
misunderstood:)
am too tired to try to explain and I would accept your corrections:)
sweet night to you all:)
ll&p
Ely
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, guy keren wrote:
|
| On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
|
| > I'm almost sure and don
> Part of linux is its security believe it or not,
> almost everything we talk about I can find you some other mailing list
> that talk about it
> if it's about hardisk Ip masquarting ssh and even hebrew in linux has its
> own mailing list.
> You might want to read all those security news groups
>
> it is the telnet protocol itself that is insecure.
Not the protocol, but the fact that it's clear-text.
> some telnet
> clients and servers did override this problem by moving the authentication
> part into using a more descent method (e.g. kerberos). alas, you cannot
> interoperate them wit
> I'm almost sure and dont' kill me if I'm wrong that ssh works above the
> telnet protocol and not replacing it..
Uh, it works ``above the telnet protocol'' in as much as FTP, SMTP, or
HTTP work ``above the telnet protocol''.
> maybe one day ssh would replace telnetd but meanwhile for comptibi
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:22:07 +0200 (IST), you wrote:
>Udi Finkelstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:51:54 +0200 (IST), Evgeny Stambulchik
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > As far as performance is considered, it's not RPM that usually matters
>> > (inspite of a
Ely Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm almost sure and dont' kill me if I'm wrong that ssh works above the
> telnet protocol and not replacing it..
We won't kill you in any case. If you are really interested you can
try and figure it out from RFC-854 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc854.html)
an
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
> I'm almost sure and dont' kill me if I'm wrong that ssh works above the
> telnet protocol and not replacing it..
ely, i don't know where you bring these odd claims from, but:
1. ssh does not sit on top of telnet. it sits on top of tcp.
2. ftp also does no
the fact something is open source doesn't make it freeware
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ira Abramov wrote:
| On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
|
| > If you compile in on sun I would be happy to know about it:)
|
| I don't think the
I'm almost sure and dont' kill me if I'm wrong that ssh works above the
telnet protocol and not replacing it..
sperate between dissing the telnet protocl the telnetd and the telnet
client:)
maybe one day ssh would replace telnetd but meanwhile for comptibilty with
the rest of the world telnted is
Part of linux is its security believe it or not,
almost everything we talk about I can find you some other mailing list
that talk about it
if it's about hardisk Ip masquarting ssh and even hebrew in linux has its
own mailing list.
You might want to read all those security news groups and screen th
it wasn't off topic and as it was a replay to the mail that was send with
the same topic I didn't change the topic
and if you so don't like cc why did you cc it to us?:) we read the mailing
list as well:)
ll&p
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Alex
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
>
> In Mandrake (I don't know if on RH as well), there
> is a /var/run/netreport directory where you can write the pid of your
> program, and it will be sent a SIGIO whenever a network event (device
> up/down) occurs.
Too cool!
Now let's see if it actually works as advertised
> it's not off bugtraq and I only send it cause people were talking about
> wuftp security for the last few days
okay, it's not off bugtraq, it's from technotronic news.
But if you have nothing new to add to that advisory, please do not post it
to the Linux list.
People that are interested in
2 tiny point - if you slide off-topic - please change the subject.
2 don't cc me on mails sent to the list - i get them anyway
(and u can guess there is no .procmailrc at hotmail.
10q
>From: "chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Ely Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alex Dubrovsky"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>C
Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't think there's a Unix it [ssh1 - OG] WON'T compile on.
Just look at http://www.ssh.org/portability.html
--
Oleg Goldshmidt | BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft;
And wit depends on dilatory time.
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Mike wrote:
> ERROR [dir /tmp needs 64KB, only has 0KB available.]
> ERROR [dir /tmp/amanda needs 64KB, only has 0KB available.]
> ERROR [dir /etc needs 64KB, only has 0KB available.]
>
> What do i need to do in order to fix this ?
>
did you set a stage partition and is it
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Izar Tarandach wrote:
>
> > telnet is not a protocol, it's a service.
>
> A common mistake, it seems. Telnet is very much a protocol,
> as stated in RFC 854 (Postel, Reynolds).
>
> Just a nitty-picky 0.02 NIS.
you and Ury :-)
yes, I'm well aware it's a complex protocol w
Hi list.
I know that this is NOT a linux pure issue, but you are my last hope :-(((.
I have the following error in my amcheck and amanda.debug.
Amanda 2.4 REP HANDLE 002-40580508 SEQ 945878056
OPTIONS ;
OK /
OK /sbin/dump executable
OK /sbin/restore executable
OK /usr/bin/gzip executable
OK /et
> telnet is not a protocol, it's a service.
A common mistake, it seems. Telnet is very much a protocol,
as stated in RFC 854 (Postel, Reynolds).
Just a nitty-picky 0.02 NIS.
--izar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Bindview Corporation
Security Engineer - HackerShield
=
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
> If you compile in on sun I would be happy to know about it:)
I don't think there's a Unix it WON'T compile on. it has clients on yet
more esoteric platforms, like PalmOS.
> I'm preety sure ssh is protected as well..
as well as what? you mean license? ssh1
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
> Ohh come on...
> can you compile ssh on all platforms?
yes.
> ssh is not even GNU..it has some crappy licence to use it
it's the best there is for now, and it's free enough for me. I don't use
ssh2 either.
> and openssh is not good enough to be used yet
You sure it doesn't?I saw unicode based fonts for netscape..
Or are we talking about diffrent kind of support?
am admiting that HTML is not one of my strong sides:)
anyhow if it doesn't support BIDI yet we'll make it support one:)
(although emacs vim and lyx are higher in the list:)
ll&P
Ely L
Ely Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you compile in on sun I would be happy to know about it:)
bash-2.02$ uname -srv
SunOS 5.6 Generic_105181-03
bash-2.02$ ssh -V
SSH Version 1.2.26 [sparc-sun-solaris2.6], protocol version 1.5.
Standard version. Does not use RSAREF.
--
Oleg Goldshmidt |
it's not off bugtraq and I only send it cause people were talking about
wuftp security for the last few days
and in a matter of fact I think that linux related security
e-mails/varnubilties should be on the list after bugtraq send you
varnubilties for all platforms..and we talking about linux her
> and yea we have too many hebrew standarts about 5 last time I counted
> and may calling to all of you ppl:) use unicode!!!every other standart
> would die soon enough .(not mention it's hte only standart I know that
> support nikod)
Except that fscking Netscape doesn't (yet) support the unicod
Ely Levy wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - the dangers of ftp conversions on misconfigured systems/ftpd
>(specifically wu-ftpd)
>
[useless advisory deleted.]
Is this really necessary?
People interested in this should subscribe to bugtraq, or whatever.
===
If you try really hard you might be able to make linux work for basic
users in hebrew but I'm sure we all agree that for a bit more than the
simplest things even just to read the README of a new program you
downloaded you need to know english.
man aren't translated as people who would actually und
> Must Israelis dou to lack of support and fonts in hebrew rather to read it
> in english and anyhow someone who doesn't know english good enough to read
> has nothing to look for in linux (no man reading??)
interesting point...
I saw lots of translated documentation, but I don't know of any la
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - the dangers of ftp conversions on misconfigured systems/ftpd
(specifically wu-ftpd)
Summary:
There exists a vulnerability with certain configurations of certain ftp
daemons with which users with a valid
ftp only acccount on a system may execute arbitrary com
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
I compiled it on both SunOS & Solaris.
--Ariel
> If you compile in on sun I would be happy to know about it:)
> I'm preety sure ssh is protected as well..
> and maybe I'm not usa/canadian citizen but usa+canada make a large part
> of the net we should think
If you compile in on sun I would be happy to know about it:)
I'm preety sure ssh is protected as well..
and maybe I'm not usa/canadian citizen but usa+canada make a large part
of the net we should think about them too?:P
ll&p
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
On Wed,
I thought Bero's changes were merged back into the original wuftpd:
http://www.cetis.hvu.nl/~koos/wu-ftpd-faq.html#QA10
(I haven't seen updated beroftpd packages in the last round of ftpd buffer
overflows , which affected both wuftpd and proftpd )
--
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http:/
On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Ely Levy wrote:
> Ohh come on...
> can you compile ssh on all platforms?
Yes. :) And on Windows/NT/2000 you can use TeraTermPro+ssh (freeware).
> ssh is not even GNU..it has some crappy licence to use it
ssh2 has that crappy license afaik. ssh1 doesn't.
> and openssh is
Must Israelis dou to lack of support and fonts in hebrew rather to read it
in english and anyhow someone who doesn't know english good enough to read
has nothing to look for in linux (no man reading??)
and in you ask me in the net in general..
maybe instead we just teach them english?:P
ll&p
El
Ohh come on...
can you compile ssh on all platforms?
ssh is not even GNU..it has some crappy licence to use it
and openssh is not good enough to be used yet
not mention ssh did have some exploite in it
and that telnet is a protocol widely used from ftp to http and by other
protocols..so don't burr
> True. It's a bug. KDE fires up licq automatically so I have never
> noticed this bug. Now how do we fix it (without checking for a process
> named 'licq' or anything like that. How do you make sure a fifo has
> someone on the other end?)
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