Re: [PATCH v4] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > My observation is that the old system has had pretty low-quality > CVE's, and worse, overly inflated CVE Severity Scores, which has > forced all people who are supporting distro and cloud serves which > sell into the US Government market to have to do ve

Re: [PATCH v4] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:27:48PM +0100, Jiri Kosina wrote: > > Now that you have played the distro card (thanks!) here, let me just copy > my comment from LWN where someone suggested "well, it's easy, it's the job > of the [paid] distros to do the triage" ... > > The problem is, that with thi

Re: [PATCH v4] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Jiri Kosina
On Fri, 16 Feb 2024, Josh Poimboeuf wrote: > - Not users of -stable since they already know they need to be on the > latest version. > > - Not distros or their users as it's just flooding them with low quality > CVEs which have no analysis or scoring. > > And enterprise distros will never be

Re: [PATCH v4] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Josh Poimboeuf
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 01:10:55PM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > +Note, due to the layer at which the Linux kernel is in a system, almost > +any bug might be exploitable to compromise the security of the kernel, > +but the possibility of exploitation is often not evident when the bug is > +fix

Re: [PATCH v3] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Michal Hocko
On Fri 16-02-24 16:34:57, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 02:20:04PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > Right now > > > we are fixing lots and lots of things and no one notices as their > > > "traditional" path of only looking at CVEs for the kernel is totally > > > incorrect. > > > > Right

Re: [PATCH v3] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 02:20:04PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > Right now > > we are fixing lots and lots of things and no one notices as their > > "traditional" path of only looking at CVEs for the kernel is totally > > incorrect. > > Right, there are quite a lot of people who consider CVE fixe

Re: [PATCH v3] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Greg Kroah-Hartman writes: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 10:28:39AM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: >> rst basically allows any order of the heading underlines, and their >> relative hierarchy is determined by how they show up in each document, >> it's not specified by rst. However, it would be much easier

Re: [PATCH v3] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Michal Hocko
On Fri 16-02-24 12:25:46, Greg KH wrote: > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 07:36:20PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > On Thu 15-02-24 19:20:09, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 06:54:17PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > > On Wed 14-02-24 09:00:30, Greg KH wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > +Process

Re: [PATCH v3] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 07:36:20PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Thu 15-02-24 19:20:09, Greg KH wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 06:54:17PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > > > On Wed 14-02-24 09:00:30, Greg KH wrote: > > > [...] > > > > +Process > > > > +--- > > > > + > > > > +As part of the n

Re: [PATCH v3] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Greg Kroah-Hartman
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 10:28:39AM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2024, Vegard Nossum wrote: > > On 15/02/2024 12:50, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 09:37:31AM +0100, Vegard Nossum wrote: > >>> Document titles should have above them as well, and then you wo

Re: [PATCH v3] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Jani Nikula
On Thu, 15 Feb 2024, Vegard Nossum wrote: > On 15/02/2024 12:50, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 09:37:31AM +0100, Vegard Nossum wrote: >>> Document titles should have above them as well, and then you would >>> need to shift all the other headings in this document (i.e. a

Re: [PATCH v4] Documentation: Document the Linux Kernel CVE process

2024-02-16 Thread Jürgen Groß
On 15.02.24 18:49, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 04:03:02PM +0100, Jürgen Groß wrote: On 15.02.24 13:10, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: The Linux kernel project now has the ability to assign CVEs to fixed issues, so document the process and how individual developers can get a CVE