Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread Loïc Minier
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > I'm seeing some speculations wrt increased effort and would like to help > finding solutions if there is actually a problem. I'm seeing mainly the same thing: solutions looking for a problem. :) I guess the only remaining chat is about security su

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 15.11.2010, 08:53 -0700 schrieb John Rigby: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Loïc Minier wrote: > > Folks, I think this thread is circling a bit back to itself, perhaps > > summarizing where we stand and what problems we're trying to solve > > would help? > > > > > > * Lin

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010, John Rigby wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Loïc Minier wrote: > >  Proposed plan: > >  * Oliver/Ricardo to confirm with Ubuntu Security Team whether it's ok > >   to base Ubuntu ARM images on linux-linaro tree as constructed > >   currently > I can't speak for the U

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread Loïc Minier
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010, David Rusling wrote: > Good discussion. Stupid question - what is the Ubuntu sauce? I'll > ask the kernel dudes in their meeting in two minutes... Some Ubuntu specific patches are prefixed by "SAUCE" in their subject line / commit message, but the Ubuntu Sauce we refer

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread David Rusling
For what it's worth, I agree with Kiko's statement. We have three stakeholders - internal use of the kernel by Linaro, external use by distributions (such as Ubuntu) and external use by community. We need to position ourselves appropriately... Dave On 15 Nov 2010, at 15:57, John Rigby wrot

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread John Rigby
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Christian Robottom Reis wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 03:05:20AM -0200, Ricardo Salveti wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Nicolas Pitre >> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Oliver Grawert wrote: >> > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Ricardo Salveti wrote: >> >> Th

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread David Rusling
Good discussion. Stupid question - what is the Ubuntu sauce? I'll ask the kernel dudes in their meeting in two minutes... Dave On 15 Nov 2010, at 15:53, John Rigby wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Loïc Minier wrote: >> Folks, I think this thread is circling a bit back to itself,

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread John Rigby
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:28 AM, Loïc Minier wrote: >  Folks, I think this thread is circling a bit back to itself, perhaps >  summarizing where we stand and what problems we're trying to solve >  would help? > > >  * Linaro integrates its kernel tree into Ubuntu for two reasons: >   - because Lin

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 03:05:20AM -0200, Ricardo Salveti wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Nicolas Pitre > wrote: > >>> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Ricardo Salveti wrote: > >> That's understandable. Now the question is why John is maintaining and > >

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-15 Thread Loïc Minier
Folks, I think this thread is circling a bit back to itself, perhaps summarizing where we stand and what problems we're trying to solve would help? * Linaro integrates its kernel tree into Ubuntu for two reasons: - because Linaro uses Ubuntu as a base to build its own derived images (

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-13 Thread Ricardo Salveti
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >>> On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Oliver Grawert wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Ricardo Salveti wrote: >> That's understandable. Now the question is why John is maintaining and >> packaging a tree that also incorporate the Ubuntu sauce on it? > > I think

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-11 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Ricardo Salveti wrote: > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Nicolas Pitre > wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Oliver Grawert wrote: > > > >> hi, > >> Am Montag, den 08.11.2010, 15:46 + schrieb Jamie Bennett: > >> > > * linaro kernels used in ubuntu ARM would need to move to th

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-11 Thread Ricardo Salveti
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Oliver Grawert wrote: > >> hi, >> Am Montag, den 08.11.2010, 15:46 + schrieb Jamie Bennett: >> > > * linaro kernels used in ubuntu ARM would need to move to the >> > > supported >> > > package set (main) which makes the

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-09 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Montag, den 08.11.2010, 15:46 + schrieb Jamie Bennett: > > > * linaro kernels used in ubuntu ARM would need to move to the > > > supported > > > package set (main) which makes them fall under all freeze restrictions > > > the kernel team s

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 08.11.2010, 15:46 + schrieb Jamie Bennett: > > * linaro kernels used in ubuntu ARM would need to move to the > > supported > > package set (main) which makes them fall under all freeze restrictions > > the kernel team sets for ubuntu (only SRUs post kernel freeze, patches >

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-09 Thread John Rigby
Oliver, On the subject of Ubuntu sauce and security patches, at each linaro kernel release I merge in the latest Ubuntu release so I believe the linaro packaged kernel has all these. My current plan is to continue doing to track the Ubuntu kernel as long as the Ubuntu kernel is supported. On th

Re: Ubuntu ARM and the linaro kernels

2010-11-09 Thread Jamie Bennett
Hi Oliver, Answers in-line below. On 8 Nov 2010, at 15:12, Oliver Grawert wrote: hi, at UDS we discussed the possibility of using linaro kernels for some of the ubuntu ARM flavours (currently for omap3 images but there might be more to come) where we seem to have duplicated efforts in kern