Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-09-27 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Monday 26 September 2011, Robert Schwebel wrote: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 02:28:07PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > ext4 has optimizations for flash media in it and btrfs is better by > > design. > > Do you have a pointer to more info about what kind of optimizations for > flash media ext4 ha

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-09-26 Thread Robert Schwebel
Arnd, On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 02:28:07PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > ext4 has optimizations for flash media in it and btrfs is better by > design. Do you have a pointer to more info about what kind of optimizations for flash media ext4 has? We tried to find something, but didn't so far. rsc --

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-31 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 13:18 +0100, Tixy wrote: > I also tested the different btrfs mount options (ssd, nossd and > ssd_spread). They don't show much difference with the untar case. To follow on from this... When benchmarking debboottrap, I found the 'ssd' option is three times faster than 'nossd

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-18 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 14:28 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Thursday 18 August 2011, Tixy wrote: > > I couldn't test logfs because, whilst mkfs worked, the mount command (or > > the kernel?) doesn't seem to support it. > > Probably the module was not enabled in the kernel. It wasn't. But after e

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-18 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thursday 18 August 2011, Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 14:28 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Thursday 18 August 2011, Tixy wrote: > > > I couldn't test logfs because, whilst mkfs worked, the mount command (or > > > the kernel?) doesn't seem to support it. > > > > Probably the module wa

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-18 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 11:48 +0100, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > On 17 August 2011 08:55, Tixy wrote: > > For untaring kernel source on one of my good performance > > SD cards on a Beagleboard-xM takes: > > > > m s > > ext4 3:30 > > ext3 8:30 > > ext2 5:00 > > btrfs 13:40 > > n

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-18 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thursday 18 August 2011, Tixy wrote: > Mystery solved... > > I didn't have btrfs-tools (nor nilfs nor logfs) installed. My test > script didn't notice that mkfs failed because I was piping the output > through tee, (which, being the end of the pipeline, always gave a > success result). > > Thi

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-17 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 11:48 +0100, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > This is odd. When I performed tests btrfs and ext4 were both about the > same speed for copying a mixture of large and small files to. I was > testing them using my laptop card reader though. Tixy: Do you get > similar btrfs vs ext4 resu

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-17 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 13:11 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Wednesday 17 August 2011, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > > One thing I noticed during Ubuntu boot on my Panda was that the mount > > process would say that it detected btrfs was running on a flash card > > and it had enabled flash mode. I don

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-17 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 17 August 2011, Yasushi SHOJI wrote: > > > > The version of btrfs that I'm looking at does not have any optimization > > for cheap flash drives, only for SSD. > > does anyone checked on seekwatcher[1], a visualizing tool Chris Mason > has wrote. I'm pretty sure that Chris would like

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-17 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 17 August 2011, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 13:11 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 August 2011, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > > > One thing I noticed during Ubuntu boot on my Panda was that the mount > > > process would say that it detected btrfs was running on a fl

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-17 Thread Yasushi SHOJI
At Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:11:51 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Wednesday 17 August 2011, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > > One thing I noticed during Ubuntu boot on my Panda was that the mount > > process would say that it detected btrfs was running on a flash card > > and it had enabled flash mode. I

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-17 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 17 August 2011, James Tunnicliffe wrote: > > m s > > ext4 3:30 > > ext3 8:30 > > ext2 5:00 > > btrfs 13:40 > > nilfs 10:40 > > logfs 10:00 > > > > this is using default mount options for file system but with noatime. > > > > These timings also bear out prelim

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-17 Thread James Tunnicliffe
On 17 August 2011 08:55, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 00:13 -0300, Ricardo Salveti wrote: >> Yeah, if we're doing this change it seems it would make more sense to >> jump directly to the btrfs, unless we can demonstrate that the >> performance is not that superior and have any kind of block

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-17 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 00:13 -0300, Ricardo Salveti wrote: > Yeah, if we're doing this change it seems it would make more sense to > jump directly to the btrfs, unless we can demonstrate that the > performance is not that superior and have any kind of blocker issues. > > Do we have any kind of bench

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-16 Thread Ricardo Salveti
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Friday 12 August 2011 21:12:54 Fathi Boudra wrote: >> >> At the last release meeting, the switch to ext4 by default has been >> mentioned. >> My understanding is that we reach an agreement on the switch to ext4 >> [1] but it still >> not

Re: Changing default root filesystem to ext4

2011-08-12 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Friday 12 August 2011 21:12:54 Fathi Boudra wrote: > > At the last release meeting, the switch to ext4 by default has been mentioned. > My understanding is that we reach an agreement on the switch to ext4 > [1] but it still > not clear if it will happen this month. > > To make it happen, it wi