Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-03-01 Thread Sachin Gupta
Hi All, I have sent an invitation for 3pm UTC Monday 7th March to have a discussion on things that can be explored/worked upon in Linaro related to v4l2 support.The idea is to come out with concrete activities that can be targeted in Linaro MM WG to address this topic. If any body is unhappy wi

RE: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-03-01 Thread Edward Hervey
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 09:50 +0100, Marek Szyprowski wrote: > Hello, [...] > > I'm not sure that highmem is the right solution. First, this will force > systems with rather small amount of memory (like 256M) to use highmem just > to support DMA allocable memory. It also doesn't solve the issue with

RE: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-03-01 Thread Marek Szyprowski
Hello, On Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:26 AM Edward Hervey wrote: > On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 09:50 +0100, Marek Szyprowski wrote: > > Hello, > [...] > > > > I'm not sure that highmem is the right solution. First, this will force > > systems with rather small amount of memory (like 256M) to use highmem

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-28 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Monday 28 February 2011 11:21:52 Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Monday, February 28, 2011 11:11:47 Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Saturday 26 February 2011 13:12:42 Hans Verkuil wrote: > > > On Friday, February 25, 2011 18:22:51 Linus Walleij wrote: > > > > 2011/2/24 Edward Hervey : > > > > > What *n

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-28 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Sunday, February 27, 2011 20:49:37 Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Saturday 26 February 2011, Edward Hervey wrote: > > > > > > Are there any gstreamer/linaro/etc core developers attending the ELC in San Francisco > > > in April? I think it might be useful to get together before, during or after the

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-28 Thread Robert Fekete
On 28 February 2011 11:33, Laurent Pinchart < laurent.pinch...@ideasonboard.com> wrote: > On Monday 28 February 2011 11:21:52 Hans Verkuil wrote: > > On Monday, February 28, 2011 11:11:47 Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > On Saturday 26 February 2011 13:12:42 Hans Verkuil wrote: > > > > On Friday, Feb

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-28 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Saturday 26 February 2011 13:12:42 Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Friday, February 25, 2011 18:22:51 Linus Walleij wrote: > > 2011/2/24 Edward Hervey : > > > What *needs* to be solved is an API for data allocation/passing at the > > > > > > kernel level which v4l2,omx,X,GL,vdpau,vaapi,... can use an

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-28 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Monday, February 28, 2011 11:11:47 Laurent Pinchart wrote: > On Saturday 26 February 2011 13:12:42 Hans Verkuil wrote: > > On Friday, February 25, 2011 18:22:51 Linus Walleij wrote: > > > 2011/2/24 Edward Hervey : > > > > What *needs* to be solved is an API for data allocation/passing at the >

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-28 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Sunday 27 February 2011 20:49:37 Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Saturday 26 February 2011, Edward Hervey wrote: > > > Are there any gstreamer/linaro/etc core developers attending the ELC in > > > San Francisco in April? I think it might be useful to get together > > > before, during or after the conf

RE: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-28 Thread Marek Szyprowski
Hello, On Saturday, February 26, 2011 8:20 PM Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Sat, 26 Feb 2011, Kyungmin Park wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Linus Walleij > > wrote: > > > 2011/2/24 Edward Hervey : > > > > > >>  What *needs* to be solved is an API for data allocation/passing at the >

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-27 Thread Sachin Gupta
Hi All, Linaro is currently collecting requirements for next cycle.If you all agree we can set up a call to discuss what could be interesting things on this topic to work on next cycle and then I can take the ideas generated for approval to Linaro TSC. Thanks Sachin On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:19

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-27 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Saturday 26 February 2011, Edward Hervey wrote: > > > > Are there any gstreamer/linaro/etc core developers attending the ELC in San > > Francisco > > in April? I think it might be useful to get together before, during or > > after the > > conference and see if we can turn this discussion in s

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-26 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011, Kyungmin Park wrote: > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Linus Walleij > wrote: > > 2011/2/24 Edward Hervey : > > > >>  What *needs* to be solved is an API for data allocation/passing at the > >> kernel level which v4l2,omx,X,GL,vdpau,vaapi,... can use and that > >> userspace

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-26 Thread Kyungmin Park
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Linus Walleij wrote: > 2011/2/24 Edward Hervey : > >>  What *needs* to be solved is an API for data allocation/passing at the >> kernel level which v4l2,omx,X,GL,vdpau,vaapi,... can use and that >> userspace (like GStreamer) can pass around, monitor and know about.

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-26 Thread Edward Hervey
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 14:47 +0100, Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Saturday, February 26, 2011 14:38:50 Felipe Contreras wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Laurent Pinchart > > wrote: > > >> > Perhaps GStreamer experts would like to comment on the future plans > > >> > ahead > > >> > for zero c

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-26 Thread Felipe Contreras
Hi, On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Robert Fekete wrote: > To make a long story short: > Different vendors provide custom OpenMax solutions for say Camera/ISP. In > the Linux eco-system there is V4L2 doing much of this work already and is > evolving with mediacontroller as well. Then there is th

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-26 Thread Felipe Contreras
Hi, On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Thursday, February 24, 2011 13:29:56 Linus Walleij wrote: >> 2011/2/23 Sachin Gupta : >> >> > The imaging coprocessor in today's platforms have a general purpose DSP >> > attached to it I have seen some work being done to use this DSP

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-26 Thread Felipe Contreras
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: >> > Perhaps GStreamer experts would like to comment on the future plans ahead >> > for zero copying/IPC and low power HW use cases? Could Gstreamer adapt >> > some ideas from OMX IL making OMX IL obsolete? >> >> perhaps OMX should adapt som

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-26 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Saturday, February 26, 2011 14:38:50 Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Laurent Pinchart > wrote: > >> > Perhaps GStreamer experts would like to comment on the future plans ahead > >> > for zero copying/IPC and low power HW use cases? Could Gstreamer adapt > >> > some id

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-26 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Friday, February 25, 2011 18:22:51 Linus Walleij wrote: > 2011/2/24 Edward Hervey : > > > What *needs* to be solved is an API for data allocation/passing at the > > kernel level which v4l2,omx,X,GL,vdpau,vaapi,... can use and that > > userspace (like GStreamer) can pass around, monitor and kno

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-25 Thread Linus Walleij
2011/2/24 Edward Hervey : >  What *needs* to be solved is an API for data allocation/passing at the > kernel level which v4l2,omx,X,GL,vdpau,vaapi,... can use and that > userspace (like GStreamer) can pass around, monitor and know about. I think the patches sent out from ST-Ericsson's Johan Mossb

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-25 Thread Clark, Rob
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > On Thursday 24 February 2011 14:04:19 Hans Verkuil wrote: >> On Thursday, February 24, 2011 13:29:56 Linus Walleij wrote: >> > 2011/2/23 Sachin Gupta : >> > > The imaging coprocessor in today's platforms have a general purpose DSP >> > > a

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Clark, Rob
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote: > There are two parts to this: first of all you need a way to allocate large > buffers. The CMA patch series is available (but not yet merged) that does > this. > I'm not sure of the latest status of this series. > > The other part is that ever

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Clark, Rob
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Edward Hervey wrote: > >  What *needs* to be solved is an API for data allocation/passing at the > kernel level which v4l2,omx,X,GL,vdpau,vaapi,... can use and that > userspace (like GStreamer) can pass around, monitor and know about. yes yes yes yes!! vaapi/vdpa

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Thursday 24 February 2011 14:17:12 Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 03:44:19 Clark, Rob wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert Fekete wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > In order to expand this knowledge outside of Linaro I took the Liberty > > > of inviting both linux-

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 03:44:19 Clark, Rob wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert Fekete > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > In order to expand this knowledge outside of Linaro I took the Liberty of > > inviting both linux-me...@vger.kernel.org and > > gstreamer-de...@lists.freedesktop.org.

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Tuesday 22 February 2011 03:44:19 Clark, Rob wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert Fekete wrote: > > In order to expand this knowledge outside of Linaro I took the Liberty of > > inviting both linux-me...@vger.kernel.org and > > gstreamer-de...@lists.freedesktop.org. For any newcomer

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Edward Hervey
Hi, On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 17:39 +0100, Robert Fekete wrote: > Hi, > > In order to expand this knowledge outside of Linaro I took the Liberty > of inviting both linux-me...@vger.kernel.org and > gstreamer-de...@lists.freedesktop.org. For any newcomer I really > recommend to do some catch-up readin

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Thursday 24 February 2011 14:04:19 Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Thursday, February 24, 2011 13:29:56 Linus Walleij wrote: > > 2011/2/23 Sachin Gupta : > > > The imaging coprocessor in today's platforms have a general purpose DSP > > > attached to it I have seen some work being done to use this DSP f

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Linus Walleij
2011/2/23 Sachin Gupta : > The imaging coprocessor in today's platforms have a general purpose DSP > attached to it I have seen some work being done to use this DSP for > graphics/audio processing in case the camera use case is not being tried or > also if the camera usecases does not consume the

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Laurent Pinchart
Hi, On Thursday 24 February 2011 15:48:20 Kyungmin Park wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 03:44:19 Clark, Rob wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert Fekete wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > In order to expand this knowled

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Thursday, February 24, 2011 13:29:56 Linus Walleij wrote: > 2011/2/23 Sachin Gupta : > > > The imaging coprocessor in today's platforms have a general purpose DSP > > attached to it I have seen some work being done to use this DSP for > > graphics/audio processing in case the camera use case is

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Edward Hervey
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:19 +0100, Edward Hervey wrote: > > Will GStreamer be as cpu/memory efficient as a pure OMX solution ? > No, > I seriously doubt we'll break down all the fundamental notions in > GStreamer to make it use 0 cpu when running some processing. I blame late night mails...

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-24 Thread Kyungmin Park
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 03:44:19 Clark, Rob wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert Fekete >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > In order to expand this knowledge outside of Linaro I took the Liberty of >> > inviting both linux-me...

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-22 Thread Sachin Gupta
Hi All, Just wanted to add one last point in this discussion. The imaging coprocessor in today's platforms have a general purpose DSP attached to it I have seen some work being done to use this DSP for graphics/audio processing in case the camera use case is not being tried or also if the camer

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-21 Thread Clark, Rob
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert Fekete wrote: > Hi, > > In order to expand this knowledge outside of Linaro I took the Liberty of > inviting both linux-me...@vger.kernel.org and > gstreamer-de...@lists.freedesktop.org. For any newcomer I really recommend > to do some catch-up reading on >

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-18 Thread Robert Fekete
Hi, In order to expand this knowledge outside of Linaro I took the Liberty of inviting both linux-me...@vger.kernel.org and gstreamer-de...@lists.freedesktop.org. For any newcomer I really recommend to do some catch-up reading on http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-dev/2011-February/thread.h

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-17 Thread Laurent Pinchart
On Thursday 10 February 2011 08:47:15 Hans Verkuil wrote: > On Thursday, February 10, 2011 08:17:31 Linus Walleij wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Harald Gustafsson wrote: > > > OMX main purpose is to handle multimedia hardware and offer an > > > interface to that HW that looks identical

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-10 Thread Pawel Moll
> Regarding using V4L to communicate with DSPs/other processors: that too > could be something for Linaro to pick up: experiment with it for one > particular > board, see what (if anything) is needed to make this work. I expect it to be > pretty easy, but again, nobody has actually done the initia

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-10 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Thursday, February 10, 2011 08:17:31 Linus Walleij wrote: > Thanks for the help Harald, much appreciated. > > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Harald Gustafsson > wrote: > > > OMX main purpose is to handle multimedia hardware and offer an > > interface to that HW that looks identical indenpend

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-10 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Thursday 10 February 2011 08:17:31 Linus Walleij wrote: > > > OMX main purpose is to handle multimedia hardware and offer an > > interface to that HW that looks identical indenpendent of the vendor > > delivering that hardware, much like the v4l2 or USB subsystems tries to > > do. And yes optim

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-09 Thread Linus Walleij
Thanks for the help Harald, much appreciated. On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Harald Gustafsson wrote: > OMX main purpose is to handle multimedia hardware and offer an > interface to that HW that looks identical indenpendent of the vendor > delivering that hardware, much like the v4l2 or USB sub

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-09 Thread Linus Walleij
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote: > Exceptions are DSPs/processors. While it is definitely possible to use V4L2 > there as well, in practice I don't see this happening anytime soon. It would > be a very interesting experiment though. In drivers/staging/tidspbridge http://omappe

RE: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-09 Thread Harald Gustafsson
@xs4all.nl] > Sent: den 9 februari 2011 20:07 > To: Linus Walleij > Cc: linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org; Lee Jones; ST-Ericsson LT > Mailing List; Harald Gustafsson > Subject: Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera > > On Wednesday, February 09, 2011 18:11:22 Linus Walleij wrote

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-09 Thread Hans Verkuil
On Wednesday, February 09, 2011 18:11:22 Linus Walleij wrote: > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Lee Jones wrote: > > Robert, Linus, what say you? > > > > [I'm looping in Harald from Ericsson who worked with Khronos > so he can correct me for all inevitable mistakes in trying to > understand how

Re: [st-ericsson] v4l2 vs omx for camera

2011-02-09 Thread Linus Walleij
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Lee Jones wrote: Robert, Linus, what say you? > [I'm looping in Harald from Ericsson who worked with Khronos so he can correct me for all inevitable mistakes in trying to understand how Khronos works.] I mainly come from the kernel for kernels' sake side of thing