Re: Images vs installers

2011-06-02 Thread Dave Martin
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 11:37:30PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Dave Martin [2011-06-01 15:56 +0100]: > > Separate question how big is Debian-installer, in terms of filesystem > > and RAM footprint? > > There are various flavours. Primarily: > > 1) a 'full' image which is 160MB and includes the bas

Re: Images vs installers

2011-06-02 Thread Dave Martin
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 07:32:10PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Wednesday 01 June 2011 16:56:07 Dave Martin wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > > > +++ Arnd Bergmann [2011-06-01 16:11 +0200]: > > > > On Wednesday 01 June 2011, Wookey wrote: > > > > > > > I abso

Re: Images vs installers

2011-06-01 Thread Wookey
+++ Dave Martin [2011-06-01 15:56 +0100]: > Separate question how big is Debian-installer, in terms of filesystem > and RAM footprint? There are various flavours. Primarily: 1) a 'full' image which is 160MB and includes the base system that is installed (so you can get a system without network

Re: Images vs installers

2011-06-01 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 01 June 2011 16:56:07 Dave Martin wrote: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > > +++ Arnd Bergmann [2011-06-01 16:11 +0200]: > > > On Wednesday 01 June 2011, Wookey wrote: > > > > > I absolutely agree that we should consequently think beyond image > > > generatio

Re: Images vs installers

2011-06-01 Thread Dave Martin
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Arnd Bergmann [2011-06-01 16:11 +0200]: > > On Wednesday 01 June 2011, Wookey wrote: > > > I absolutely agree that we should consequently think beyond image > > generation, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a CD image > > to perfor

Re: Images vs installers

2011-06-01 Thread Wookey
+++ Arnd Bergmann [2011-06-01 16:11 +0200]: > On Wednesday 01 June 2011, Wookey wrote: > I absolutely agree that we should consequently think beyond image > generation, but that doesn't necessarily mean that a CD image > to perform an unattended installation is a better answer. > > My main questi

Re: Images vs installers

2011-06-01 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Wednesday 01 June 2011, Wookey wrote: > Pre-built images comes from an 'embedded systems' view of the world. > Real computers can run installers to put their operating systems on > and set themselves up, and we should be taking advantage of that. ARM > computers are real computers now and we sho

Images vs installers

2011-06-01 Thread Wookey
There has been quite a lot of discussion of image creation, how many flavours there should be, where we store them and for how long, how they get generated and delivered etc. And there were many sessions at UDS as well as a couple of threads on this list covering this. All this discussion left me