Fwd: [ubuntu/maverick] linux-linaro 2.6.35-1000.3 (Accepted)

2010-08-06 Thread Tim Gardner
Original Message Subject: [ubuntu/maverick] linux-linaro 2.6.35-1000.3 (Accepted) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 20:01:32 - From: Ubuntu Installer Reply-To: Ubuntu Installer To: Tim Gardner linux-linaro (2.6.35-1000.3) maverick; urgency=low [ John Rigby ] * LINARO: cleanu

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Loïc Minier
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010, Christian Robottom Reis wrote: > I was surprised to see that a > fourth of the image is actually apt package caches and lists. Yup, Martin Pitt worked on some APT patches to allow keeping these compressed in the local disk. -- Loïc

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 05:38:56PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote: > > Would the overhead be significant even if the tarball wasn't compressed? > > I don't understand enough about tar's concatenate and delete performance > > to risk a guess. > > tar's default internal blocksize is 512 bytes, so there wo

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Dave Martin
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Michael Vogt wrote: > You have the following options to make the on-disk file size smaller: > >  * keep them compressed on disk (needs apt in maverick), you need to set >   """ >   Acquire::GzipIndexes "true"; >   """ >   in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10keepcompressed > >

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Dave Martin
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Christian Robottom Reis wrote: > By touch I think you mean install, upgrade or remove, and of these I > guess upgrade is the more common case; do you think it is? I think you're right. This hits the end user more than first-time installation - install and remove

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Michael Vogt
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 12:05:25PM +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Dave Martin wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Christian Robottom Reis > >> Hi there! > > >> > > >>I unpacked our minimal rel

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 02:16:00PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello all, > > Alexander Sack [2010-08-06 12:15 +0200]: > > > If we have to keep /usr/share/doc/ (for copyright notices and so on), > > > maybe it would be feasible to replace each /usr/share/doc// > > > with a tarball? This would eli

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Christian Robottom Reis
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 10:57:21AM +0100, Dave Martin wrote: > We could remove these files, but I agree it may be a false > optimisation: the size of the release filesystem is no longer > representative of the steady-state size of the filesystem when it's in > use in this case. Well, I think that

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello all, Alexander Sack [2010-08-06 12:15 +0200]: > > If we have to keep /usr/share/doc/ (for copyright notices and so on), > > maybe it would be feasible to replace each /usr/share/doc// > > with a tarball? This would eliminate most of the overhead as well as > > making the actual data smaller

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello, Dave Martin [2010-08-06 13:35 +0100]: > Just to clarify my meaning--- I expected to have a tarball per > package, not one massive tarball for the whole system... the cost of > maintaining the latter would certainly get very unpleasant for people. Hm, but then you wouldn't save a lot -- you

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Dave Martin
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Zygmunt Bazyli Krynicki wrote: > On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 12:05 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: >>         Out of interest, does anyone know why dpkg/apt never migrated >>         from the >>         "massive sequential text file" approach to something more >>         da

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Dave Martin
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello all, > > Alexander Sack [2010-08-06 12:15 +0200]: >> > If we have to keep /usr/share/doc/ (for copyright notices and so on), >> > maybe it would be feasible to replace each /usr/share/doc// >> > with a tarball?  This would eliminate most o

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Zygmunt Bazyli Krynicki
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 12:05 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: > Out of interest, does anyone know why dpkg/apt never migrated > from the > "massive sequential text file" approach to something more > database-oriented? I've often thought that the current > system'

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Dave Martin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Alexander Sack wrote:>> > * stripping /usr/share/doc out (but everybody knew that) > > > > ack. we plan to do that using pitti's dpkg improvements; last time they > > didn't land > > in the archive yet, but I

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Dave Martin wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Christian Robottom Reis > > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi there! > >> > >>I unpacked our minimal release image and ran an xdiskusage on it, > >

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Dave Martin
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Christian Robottom Reis > wrote: >> >> Hi there! >> >>    I unpacked our minimal release image and ran an xdiskusage on it, >> mostly to see what we're shipping -- and I was surprised to see that a >>

Re: Images, apt-get clean and friends

2010-08-06 Thread Alexander Sack
Hi, On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Christian Robottom Reis wrote: > Hi there! > >I unpacked our minimal release image and ran an xdiskusage on it, > mostly to see what we're shipping -- and I was surprised to see that a > fourth of the image is actually apt package caches and lists. Can we

Re: powertop on arm platform

2010-08-06 Thread Yong Shen
Setting TERM to linux does not help. I am wondering if it has anything to do with my kernel command line "console=ttymxc0,115200". Yong On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Amit Kucheria wrote: > cc'ing linaro-dev > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Amit Arora wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:14

Re: powertop on arm platform

2010-08-06 Thread Amit Kucheria
cc'ing linaro-dev On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Amit Arora wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Yong Shen wrote: >> Hi Amit, >> >> Clearly, we did not implement these nodes. See below. >> r...@freescale ~$ cat >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies >> cat: c