Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
I am trying to typset a choral piece with half bar-lines in different places in different voices. The two approaches I have seen is to use polymetric notation or possibly subverting the /breathe command to get the desired effect. I have been trying to cut and paste examples from the manual, speci

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
Just to further clarify, this is the problem I am trying to overcome: /In scores with many staves, a \bar command in one staff is automatically applied to all staves. The resulting bar lines are connected between different staves of a StaffGroup, PianoStaff, or GrandStaff./ I am trying to print b

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
Ah, thanks. I was using the latest stable version which is 12.16.2, updating to the unstable version did the trick. Thanks again -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147287.html Sent from the User mailing list

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
For the manual version problem, this arises largely because the manuals are laid out in such a way as to force one to do a google search on more obscure implementations, at that point it is very hard to see where you end up because you are opening 50 tabs that might lead you in the right direction.

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
Maybe in 20 years time once the development has slowed down some can go back and comprehensive comprehensible manual, but as it is one has to rely on googling increasingly obscure search terms to do some of the less common things that is required when typesetting. -- View this message in context

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
Just to clarify: It often seems as if the simple, obvious things are all in one easily accessible place but the more fine grained stuff is hidden somewhere completed different. What would really be helpful is for the manual to be a singular thing where even detail conceivably related to bar-lines

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
That's what I'm referring to (if I am understanding you correctly). If I want information on barlines I should go to BARLINES, not Learning>Barlines or Usage>Barlines or Notation>Barlines or Snippets>Barlines. Just BARLINES. Never mind various manuals for different version numbers added on top of

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
I don't want to harp on this point, but it is significant that when I mention to people that I use Lilypond their faces curl up and frumple. Usually a little prodding reveals that they have encountered the manuals. I have invested a little time in trying to figure them out, and I find them highly

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
I am more than happy to volunteer, and I realise that it is easy to point these things out but much harder to actually fix them. http://lilypond.org/manuals.html ...is next to useless is you are looking for anything but the simplest implementations. The divisions are not really sensible. I alre

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
Kieren MacMillan wrote > Hello, > >> most people will do what I did at first, go to the search box on the >> lilypond page, type in "barlines" and proceed to be baffled and confused. > > I have literally never used that search box before. > I don't even think it makes sense there — at the very le

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
Yes, that would be a simple solution, maybe even just with a drop down menu to select version numbers for stable/unstable. I would venture that would already be an enormous improvement even if it isn't a complete fix when it comes to the more obscure stuff. -- View this message in context: htt

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
Thanks, I will take you up on that if you don't mind :) I am more than happy contribute my time and effort to such an indexing effort, I think something of that nature would help enormously to improve the general usability of what I consider to be by far the best music editor available. While we

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread DW
Janek Warchoł-2 wrote > You may want to try GIMP. It can open pdfs as images. > > hth > Janek > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@ > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Ah, I never thought to try that. Thanks for t

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread DW
Nick Payne-3 wrote > I usually use Adobe Acrobat to create a PDF portfolio for each version > that contains the extending, internals, learning, notation, snippets, > usage, and web manuals. If you open it in Adobe Reader and enter a > search term in the field at top right, you'll get back all th

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread DW
Noeck wrote > That is why I tried an alternative approach with an image as index: > http://joramberger.de/files/lilypond_visualindex.pdf Wow! That is literally the best thing since sliced banana fritters! That's going on my desktop, will save me endless hours of scrounging when I forget how to do

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread DW
Werner LEMBERG wrote > Unfortunately, only Acrobat can read that. There is no free tool yet > which correctly interprets PDF portfolios, AFAIK. I managed to open it with Sumatra, seems to do the trick. It gives a warning but goes to the file if you click the bookmarks. The only catch is that yo