Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Gianmaria Lari
On 15 December 2017 at 07:20, Saul Tobin wrote: > Reading your example, it seems to me that the "FAIL" is caused by the > hypothetical user misunderstanding the semantics of relative mode. Using > relative mode without explicitly defining what pitch the phrase is meant to > be relative to is unre

feathered beam calculations

2017-12-15 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi List, I'm trying to use the \featherDurations command on a brief passage: \relative c' { a,,^\markup { \italic "subito meno mosso" }\( b cis dis eis8\) \override Beam.grow-direction = #LEFT \featherDurations #(ly:make-moment 2/1) { a,32[\( b cis dis eis]\)\fermata } \override Beam.grow-di

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
From: Flaming Hakama by Elaine > Subject: Re: Auto-transposition It was pointed out to me that this claim is untrue: > And the behavior of \relative that is weirdest: > > * The octave of \relative is lowered when used with bass clef. > > The fix for the clef issue is to use a \transpose w

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread David Kastrup
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > And the behavior of \relative that is weirdest: > > * The octave of \relative is lowered when used with bass clef. > > The fix for the clef issue is to use a \transpose when you use it with bass > clef. That one is nonsense. \relative does not interact in

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > >> And the behavior of \relative that is weirdest: >> >> * The octave of \relative is lowered when used with bass clef. >> >> The fix for the clef issue is to use a \transpose when you use it with bass >> clef. > > That one is nonsen

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/12/17 06:20, Saul Tobin wrote: > Relative mode makes perfect sense if you're entering music that cares > mainly about the relationship between notes within a phrase (i.e. most > music). IMO absolute mode might be easier from the perspective of the > software, but it's not how most musicians t

Re: Multiple chord names?

2017-12-15 Thread Robert Schmaus
If you mean alternative chords on top of each other, I just place two ChordNames contexts in the score and have the upper one contain mostly spacers plus the alternative chord names wherever one is needed ... Best, Robert > On 15 Dec 2017, at 00:20, Menu Jacques wrote: > > Hello folks, > > M

Re: Multiple chord names?

2017-12-15 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello Robert, Thanks for your answer. I’d been wondering whether something would be possible with a single ChordNames contexts, but yours is clearly a solution. A nice day! JM > Le 15 déc. 2017 à 11:15, Robert Schmaus a écrit : > > If you mean alternative chords on top of each other, I just

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Neo Anderson wrote: > Dear All, > > Anyway, I'm thankful you've taken your time to solve my problem. > > On Thursday, December 14, 2017, 1:29:22 AM GMT+1, Kieren MacMillan < > kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > Hi David, > > >> Because my only goal was to

Re: Multiple chord names?

2017-12-15 Thread Robert Schmaus
Maybe one of the Scheme wizards could come up with such a solution but I doubt it would really be worth the trouble as the two-contexts solution is easy to use ... and flexible too, in case someone needs secondary alternatives and/or font, colour, ... changes in the alternatives. Have a good d

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread David Wright
On Fri 15 Dec 2017 at 10:02:19 (+), Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/12/17 06:20, Saul Tobin wrote: > > Relative mode makes perfect sense if you're entering music that cares > > mainly about the relationship between notes within a phrase (i.e. most > > music). IMO absolute mode might be easier from th

Re: Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
On 2017-12-15 13:30, Ralph Palmer wrote: Greetings - Just a reminder and note: I have been using \relative for years and have been quite happy with it. Perhaps my situation is fairly unique. I transcribe a lot of fiddle tunes, then transpose them down an octave and into alto clef. Using \

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, Mats wrote: > By the way, whoever is working on the Changes document for upcoming 2.20, > don't forget to mention about \fixed! +1 David W wrote: > Just use \relative early. The fact that this works like it does is further evidence that \relative is not sufficiently intuitive. I'm pre

RE: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread mogens
Hi List, I have used Lilypond for a few years now. I (almost) always use \relative and I have never had trouble with it. Indeed, as a lay person, I have no idea which octave c'4 d' e' f' g'1 is – I know I could look it up, but it is certainly not in my head. So for someone with little or n

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > > Mats wrote: >> By the way, whoever is working on the Changes document for upcoming >> 2.20, don't forget to mention about \fixed! > > +1 2.19.22 apparently. I'd have pegged it at 2.18 already. -- David Kastrup ___

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread David Kastrup
writes: > Hi List, > > I have used Lilypond for a few years now. I (almost) always use > \relative and I have never had trouble with it. Indeed, as a lay > person, I have no idea which octave > c'4 d' e' f' g'1 > is – I know I could look it up, but it is certainly not in my head. So what ref

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
On Dec 15, 2017 12:59 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: David Kastrup writes: > Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > >> And the behavior of \relative that is weirdest: >> >> * The octave of \relative is lowered when used with bass clef. >> >> The fix for the clef issue is to use a \transpose when y

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/12/17 13:45, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 15 Dec 2017 at 10:02:19 (+), Wols Lists wrote: >> On 15/12/17 06:20, Saul Tobin wrote: >>> Relative mode makes perfect sense if you're entering music that cares >>> mainly about the relationship between notes within a phrase (i.e. most >>> music).

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread David Kastrup
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > David Kastrup writes: > >> Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: >> >>> And the behavior of \relative that is weirdest: >>> >>> * The octave of \relative is lowered when used with bass clef. >>> >>> The fix for the clef issue is to use a \transpose when you use

RE: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread mogens
> Hi List, > > I have used Lilypond for a few years now. I (almost) always use > \relative and I have never had trouble with it. Indeed, as a lay > person, I have no idea which octave > c'4 d' e' f' g'1 > is – I know I could look it up, but it is certainly not in my head. So what reference pi

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread David Wright
On Fri 15 Dec 2017 at 15:52:28 (+), Wols Lists wrote: > On 15/12/17 13:45, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 15 Dec 2017 at 10:02:19 (+), Wols Lists wrote: > >> On 15/12/17 06:20, Saul Tobin wrote: > >>> Relative mode makes perfect sense if you're entering music that cares > >>> mainly about t

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:57 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > > > David Kastrup writes: > > > >> Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > >> > >>> And the behavior of \relative that is weirdest: > >>> > >>> * The octave of \relative is lowered when used with bass cle

Re: Conditional paper block

2017-12-15 Thread Edward Neeman
In Frescobaldi you can choose the Engrave (custom) option which lets you add to the command line, and remembers the last used setting. But I think your solution is better. Best, Edward -- Dr. Edward Neeman Adjunct Instructor, South Georgia State College Collaborative Pianist, Valdost

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/12/17 17:48, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: > > Actually, I think it had to do with midi output for bass > clarinet. The > > sample I used was not transposed the octave, and I had to > compensate by > > transposing the music down. > > According to Wikipedia, bass c

Re: Conditional paper block

2017-12-15 Thread Br. Samuel Springuel
In Frescobaldi you can choose the Engrave (custom) option which lets you add to the command line, and remembers the last used setting. I'd never noticed that option. However, after trying it I don't like that it pulls up the dialog each time. This slows me down because it requires me to inte

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread David Kastrup
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:57 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: >> >> > Actually, I think it had to do with midi output for bass clarinet. The >> > sample I used was not transposed the octave, and I had to compensate by >> > trans

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> Subject: Re: Re: Auto-transposition > > By the way, whoever is working on the Changes document for upcoming 2.20, > don't forget to mention about \fixed! > >/Mats > I volunteered to do this, so I will make sure to work on describing this feature. > > I don't think there is a clear advan

Re: Auto-transposition

2017-12-15 Thread Saul Tobin
I would highly recommend against this type of coding style. \resetRelativeOctave belongs IMO always as part of the definition of a music expression, ideally on the line directly preceding note entry. Personally, I think it is preferable to define all of the music for each context by explicitly typ