Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread T. Michael Sommers
I have a couple of questions about key signatures: 1) When a key change occurs at the end of a printed line, the new key signature is printed at the end of the line. Is there any way to suppress that? 2) When the key changes, the new key signature includes a bunch of naturals to negate the

Re: Aw: Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 05.10.2015 08:30, Blöchl Bernhard wrote: Am 05.10.2015 08:27, schrieb msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca: On Mon, 5 Oct 2015, Blöchl Bernhard wrote: > Does anyone know if it would be possible to make the links in the regular > PDF reader go to Frescobaldi? What is a regular PDF reader? Is it a worki

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread Robert Schmaus
Hi T.M., Check the Notation Reference, section 5.4.6 - you'll find the answers to your questions there. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/visibility-of-objects Best, Robert __ Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it. -- Flannery O'Connor > On 5 O

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread Robert Schmaus
Actually, so save you some time finding the relevant passages, your question 1 is answered in the section called "Using break-visibility", and Q2 in section "Visibility of cancelling accidentals". Best, Robert __ Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it. -- Flannery O

Re: left offsetting dotted note leaves dot unmoved

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Marten, On 05.10.2015 03:09, Marten wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to left offset a dotted note in a CueVoice, but although the note is shifted left as expected, the dot is not moved left. How can I make the dot go left as well? I’d have liked to suggest %%% \version "2.18.2" m

Re: Aw: Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Robert Schmaus
I'm not sure if this what you're looking for, but here goes: I'm using frescobaldi on a Mac, and of course it does have a panel where you see the engraved score. Frescobaldi does not, however support printing the pdf itself - instead it asks if I'd like to open the pdf in the default pdf viewer

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.10.2015 um 09:50 schrieb Robert Schmaus: > I'm not sure if this what you're looking for, but here goes: I'm using > frescobaldi on a Mac, and of course it does have a panel where you see > the engraved score. Frescobaldi does not, however support printing the > pdf itself - instead it asks

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 9:54, Urs Liska ha scritto: I think what he wants is the following: - view the PDF in Acrobat Reader (for its better resolution or whatever reason, I think he knows how to do that (as it's where he's coming from) - Click on the note in Acrobat Reader and have Fr

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 10/5/2015 3:33 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote: On 5 Oct 2015, at 09:16, T. Michael Sommers mailto:tmsomme...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have a couple of questions about key signatures: 1) When a key change occurs at the end of a printed line, the new key signature is printed at the end of the line. Is

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 10/5/2015 3:42 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote: Actually, so save you some time finding the relevant passages, your ... Q2 in section "Visibility of cancelling accidentals". Thanks. I hadn't seen that while searching the manual. -- T.M. Sommers -- tmsomme...@gmail.com -- ab2sb __

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 10:57, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 9:54, Urs Liska ha scritto: I think what he wants is the following: - view the PDF in Acrobat Reader (for its better resolution or whatever reason, I think he knows how to do that (as it's where h

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.10.2015 um 11:18 schrieb Federico Bruni: > Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 10:57, Federico Bruni > ha scritto: >> Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 9:54, Urs Liska ha >> scritto: >>> I think what he wants is the following: >>> - view the PDF in Acrobat Reader (for its better resolution or >>> w

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread Robert Schmaus
> > I tried this: > > \override Staff.KeySignature.break-visibility = ##(#f #t #t) > > along with some variations, but it didn't seem to have any effect. Also, I > had used that formula in another situation (with the TimeSignature, I think), > and, although it removed the signature, it left

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 10/5/2015 5:13 AM, T. Michael Sommers wrote: On 10/5/2015 3:42 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote: Actually, so save you some time finding the relevant passages, your ... Q2 in section "Visibility of cancelling accidentals". Thanks. I hadn't seen that while searching the manual. Hmmm. When I chan

Re: Aw: Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread BB
I am sorry, I was confusing this thread "PDF Links in Windows" with another one: "2.18.2 - Thoughts so far". But to add to the first thread I reread: It is starting with a posting on 27th September 2015 of Thomas WillNot added a link to http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/Documentation/user/lilypond/

Re: Aw: Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread BB
I forgot to add the link of Harm/Thomas Morley http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/point-and-click Obviously does not describe a Windows solution either ... On 05.10.2015 11:36, BB wrote: I am sorry, I was confusing this thread "PDF Links in Windows" with another one: "2.18.

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.10.2015 um 11:36 schrieb BB: > I am sorry, I was confusing this thread "PDF Links in Windows" with > another one: "2.18.2 - Thoughts so far". > > But to add to the first thread I reread: It is starting with a posting > on 27th September 2015 of Thomas WillNot added a link to > http://lilypo

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread James
Hello, On 05/10/15 10:23, Urs Liska wrote: > > Am 05.10.2015 um 11:18 schrieb Federico Bruni: >> Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 10:57, Federico Bruni >> ha scritto: >>> Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 9:54, Urs Liska ha >>> scritto: I think what he wants is the following: - view the PDF i

How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread jurgen . lamsens
Hi all, I'm a complete newbie here, so please bare with me ;-) I already spent a couple of hours, reading all manuals and mailing lists, trying to engrave something as simple as this: Notice: the "full-measure rests" are not shown in the screenshot (beginner piano book), but I want to engr

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.10.2015 um 12:42 schrieb James: > Hello, > > On 05/10/15 10:23, Urs Liska wrote: >> Am 05.10.2015 um 11:18 schrieb Federico Bruni: >>> Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 10:57, Federico Bruni >>> ha scritto: Il giorno lun 5 ott 2015 alle 9:54, Urs Liska ha scritto: > I think what

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread David Kastrup
jurgen.lams...@telenet.be writes: > Hi all, > > I'm a complete newbie here, so please bare with me ;-) > > I already spent a couple of hours, reading all manuals and mailing > lists, trying to engrave something as simple as this: > > * > > Notice: the "full-measure rests" are not shown in the scre

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Jurgen, welcome to this list and LilyPond! I will answer some of your questions but you'll surely get other responses as well. Am 05.10.2015 um 12:46 schrieb jurgen.lams...@telenet.be: > Hi all, > > I'm a complete newbie here, so please bare with me ;-) > > I already spent a couple of hours,

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread T. Michael Sommers
On 10/5/2015 5:33 AM, Robert Schmaus wrote: I tried this: \override Staff.KeySignature.break-visibility = ##(#f #t #t) along with some variations, but it didn't seem to have any effect. Also, I had used that formula in another situation (with the TimeSignature, I think), and, although it remov

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2015-10-05 um 16:42 schrieb James : >>> "Custom protocol handlers aren't supported by Adobe Reader X and later >>> for security reasons." >>> https://forums.adobe.com/message/5593888#5593888 >> Is this definitive? >> >> Then this should be added to the documentation somewhere (CCing to >> bug-

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.10.2015 um 15:04 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: > On OSX, my old Acrobat Pro 9 as well as Adobe Reader 11 try to open > LilyPond’s "textedit://" links with LilyPad, after asking if they may or > should block such attempts. So the "security reasons" seem to apply only on > Windows (I don’t

Re: multiple TextSpanners per voice

2015-10-05 Thread David Nalesnik
Ok, this should do it. The intention is to provide extra functionality to text spanners. By using this code, you have all the functionality of normal text spanners, but you are able to have multiple spanners per voice. You simply need to swap the regular engraver for this one in a layout block,

Re: PDF Links in Windows

2015-10-05 Thread Robin Bannister
On 05.10.2015 11:23, Urs Liska wrote: Am 05.10.2015 um 11:18 schrieb Federico Bruni: >> ... "Custom protocol handlers aren't supported by Adobe Reader X and later for security reasons." https://forums.adobe.com/message/5593888#5593888 Is this definitive? My last _abandoned_ attempt at gett

Offset fermata problem

2015-10-05 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello folks, I’d like to obtain the following from Poulenc, in which the fermata is in-between a2 and r4: I tried with: \version "2.19.28" \score { \relative c'' { \key f \major \time 2/2 | % 147 << {a2 r4} {s2 s16 \fermata s8.} >> e16 -\markup{\dynamic "ff" \i

Re: Offset fermata problem

2015-10-05 Thread Jean Brefort
Hi Use something like:     <<       {a2 r4}       {s4 s16 \fermata s8.}     >> Regards, Jean Le lundi 05 octobre 2015 à 17:25 +0200, Menu Jacques a écrit : > Hello folks, > > I’d like to obtain the following from Poulenc, in which the fermata > is in-between a2 and r4: > > > > I tried with:

Re: Offset fermata problem

2015-10-05 Thread Phil Burfitt
- Original Message - From: "Jean Brefort" To: "Menu Jacques" ; "Lilypond-user Mailinglist" Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Offset fermata problem Hi Use something like: << {a2 r4} {s4 s16 \fermata s8.} >> Regards, Jean Le lundi 05 octobre 2015 à 17:25 +0200, M

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread Noeck
Hi Michael, Am 05.10.2015 um 11:33 schrieb T. Michael Sommers: > Hmmm. When I change from a key with sharps or flats in it to one with > no sharps or flats, the cancelling accidentals still appear. I can > understand that, since otherwise there would be no indication that the > key had changed,

Re: Ties or multiple voices

2015-10-05 Thread S
My question may need some clarification. Especially the third example, which should look something like this: [image: Inline afbeelding 1] \relative c''{ <<{2. r4}\\{4 a8 c}>> } The tie starting at the b on the third beat in the second voice looks a little awkward. It may be theoretically

Re: Offset fermata problem

2015-10-05 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Jacques, How about: \version "2.19.28" \score { \relative c'' { \key f \major \time 2/2 | % 147 \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/1) << { a2 r4 } { s4 s16 s8.\fermata s4 } %% <= e.g. >> \unset Score.proportionalNotationDuration

Handling of objects near barlines

2015-10-05 Thread David Sumbler
For a while I have been thinking about something which I feel could be a useful modification of Lilypond's behaviour. Lilypond defaults to standard choices for musical notation, which generally saves a lot of work - for instance, it assumes that when we write c4 we want a standard crotchet to appe

Re: left offsetting dotted note leaves dot unmoved

2015-10-05 Thread Marten
Simon Albrecht mail.de> writes: > > Hi Marten, > > On 05.10.2015 03:09, Marten wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm trying to left offset a dotted note in a CueVoice, but although the > > note is shifted left as expected, the dot is not moved left. > > How can I make the dot go left as well? > > I’d ha

Re: Offset fermata problem

2015-10-05 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello Jean, Phil and Pierre, Thanks for you help! As the secondary voice doesn’t need to fill 3 quarter notes, I find that: \score { \relative c'' { \key f \major \time 2/2 | % 147 << {a2 r4} {s4*5/4 s16 \fermata} >> e16 -\markup{\dynamic "ff" \italic "librement"}

Re: Offset fermata problem

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Jacques, On 05.10.2015 17:25, Menu Jacques wrote: Hello folks, I’d like to obtain the following from Poulenc, in which the fermata is in-between a2 and r4: based on an idea by David Kastrup I wrote a music function, which provides a nice interface for this kind of things: %%%

Re: Handling of objects near barlines

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello David, On 05.10.2015 19:49, David Sumbler wrote: Even when we write the opposite, Lilypond still conforms to the standard practice - which is very nice of it, but unnecessary. Lilypond is a practical tool, not an educational one, and people using it know the conventions I don’t and I’m

Re: Ties or multiple voices

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 05.10.2015 19:00, S wrote: My question may need some clarification. Especially the third example, which should look something like this: Inline afbeelding 1 \relative c''{ <<{2. r4}\\{4 a8 c}>> } The tie starting at the b on the third beat in the second voice looks a little awkwa

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 05.10.2015 11:33, T. Michael Sommers wrote: Hmmm. When I change from a key with sharps or flats in it to one with no sharps or flats, the cancelling accidentals still appear. I can understand that, since otherwise there would be no indication that the key had changed, but for my application

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 05.10.2015 13:33, Urs Liska wrote: Remove the slurs in the first two measures completely Hear, hear! The musicologist deviates from the original notation :-) You definitely need to make an editorial remark… Cheek aside, I think they are phrasing slurs and make sense as such. Yours, Simon

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Simon Albrecht" To: "Urs Liska" ; Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 8:07 PM Subject: Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics) On 05.10.2015 13:33, Urs Liska wrote: > Remove the slurs in the first two measures completely Hear, hear! The mu

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Jurgen, On 05.10.2015 12:46, jurgen.lams...@telenet.be wrote: Hi all, I'm a complete newbie here, so please bear with me ;-) I already spent a couple of hours, reading all manuals and mailing lists, Reading the manuals is always helpful, but at the beginning it’s a huge heap – and aft

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.10.2015 um 21:07 schrieb Simon Albrecht: > On 05.10.2015 13:33, Urs Liska wrote: >> Remove the slurs in the first two measures completely > > Hear, hear! The musicologist deviates from the original notation :-) > You definitely need to make an editorial Depends on the type of publication o

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 05.10.2015 22:01, Urs Liska wrote: Am 05.10.2015 um 21:07 schrieb Simon Albrecht: On 05.10.2015 13:33, Urs Liska wrote: Remove the slurs in the first two measures completely Hear, hear! The musicologist deviates from the original notation :-) You definitely need to make an editorial Depen

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.10.2015 um 22:20 schrieb Simon Albrecht: > On 05.10.2015 22:01, Urs Liska wrote: >> >> Am 05.10.2015 um 21:07 schrieb Simon Albrecht: >>> On 05.10.2015 13:33, Urs Liska wrote: Remove the slurs in the first two measures completely >>> Hear, hear! The musicologist deviates from the origi

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
One small amendment: The spacing is less grotesque if you insert %%% selfAl = #(define-music-function (parser location num) (number?) #{ \once \override LyricText . self-alignment-X = $num #}) text = \lyricmode { Rid -- ing, | rid -- ing, | \selfAl #.5 ’round \selfAl #-.5 and a

Re: Two questions about key signatures

2015-10-05 Thread Robert Schmaus
> > { \key as \minor ces \key c \major c } > > How on earth would the performer know that the second one is a c natural if > there is no key cancellation? S/He wouldn't. Unless (and I quote) > My application is not an actual score to be played by others, but just a > cheat sheet for me, Be

Re: Handling of objects near barlines

2015-10-05 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-10-05 19:49 GMT+02:00 David Sumbler : > For a while I have been thinking about something which I feel could be a > useful modification of Lilypond's behaviour. > > Lilypond defaults to standard choices for musical notation, which > generally saves a lot of work - for instance, it assumes that

Re: Offset fermata problem

2015-10-05 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Simon, Thanks a lot to DK and yourself, this « after » function is awesome! JM > Le 5 oct. 2015 à 20:38, Simon Albrecht a écrit : > > Hello Jacques, > > On 05.10.2015 17:25, Menu Jacques wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> I’d like to obtain the following from Poulenc, in which the fermata is

Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

2015-10-05 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/15 03:40, Colin Campbell wrote: > On 15-10-04 06:29 PM, Ivan Kuznetsov wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Karen S. Billings >> wrote: >>> I'm a former Bell Labs engineer, where I used Unix (vi, awk, >>> shell, etc.) everyday. I got s

MIDI "volume"

2015-10-05 Thread mskala
The discussion of MIDI in the manual refers to "volume" throughout. It appears that at least some of the time, that actually means MIDI velocity, which is not the same thing. For instance, dynamic marks like \f and \pp seem to set the velocity. Do *all* references to "volume" really mean velocit

Re: How write cross-staff slur (in combination with lyrics)

2015-10-05 Thread David Wright
Quoting Simon Albrecht (simon.albre...@mail.de): > One small amendment: The spacing is less grotesque if you insert > %%% > selfAl = #(define-music-function (parser location num) (number?) > #{ \once \override LyricText . self-alignment-X = $num #}) > > text = \lyricmode { > Rid