Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

Hi, I'm still working on ultimate three-staff piano layout. When I write piano-solo music it works fine. The problem occures when I add another StaffGroup: = \version "2.17.96" music = { c'1 } \score { << \new StaffGroup \with { systemStartDelimiter = #'SystemStartBrac

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Noeck writes: > Am 07.12.2013 17:17, schrieb Janek Warchoł: >> 2013/12/7 Phil Holmes : >>> Links and recommendations - fine, great, wonderful. Bundled install? No >>> way - that's when I'd stop being release manager and when I'd freeze at the >>> current LilyPond install. > > Why so categorical

Re: Schikkers List

Federico Bruni writes: > It really depends on the music and kind of guitar. > Alternate tunings are used mostly on acoustic guitar and especially in > fingerstyle and flatpicking tecniques. > I know very few pieces for electric guitar which use alternate tunings > (usually 6th string dropped down

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Am 07.12.2013 23:57, schrieb David Kastrup: I would imagine that it works best when one instance of Frescobaldi is able to install several versions of LilyPond. If those in turn try installing Frescobaldi, this is not likely going to end well. I would say so too. Given that Denemo _contains_ on

Re: Schikkers List

2013/12/7 David Kastrup > Federico Bruni writes: > > > It really depends on the music and kind of guitar. > > Alternate tunings are used mostly on acoustic guitar and especially in > > fingerstyle and flatpicking tecniques. > > I know very few pieces for electric guitar which use alternate tunin

Re: Schikkers List

2013/12/8 Thomas Morley > 2013/12/5 Federico Bruni : > > > When you enter the fret number, the program can find the right pitch > > combining string + fret number (and taking the tuning into account). > > Hi Federico, > > How should this ever work? > Thinking of modulations/enhormonics. > Do y

Re: Schikkers List

Federico Bruni writes: > 2013/12/8 Thomas Morley > >> 2013/12/5 Federico Bruni : >> >> > When you enter the fret number, the program can find the right pitch >> > combining string + fret number (and taking the tuning into account). >> >> Hi Federico, >> >> How should this ever work? >> Thinkin

Re: Reducing horizontal spacing

great! 2013/12/7 David Bolton : > On 12/7/2013 2:16 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> David, >> >> 2013/12/7 David Bolton : >>> Janek, >>> >>> I also experimented with a context statement that matched the first >>> documentation page, but I couldn't get it to work (see attached). >> That's probably beca

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

karol wrote > Hi, > > I'm still working on ultimate three-staff piano layout. When I write > piano-solo music it works fine. The problem occures when I add another > StaffGroup: you probably have to override the values for the staff grouper: \score { << \new StaffGroup \with { \overr

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

Hi Eluze, it works, but only if all three piano-staves are visible. When staff 'c' is empty (hidden), distance between 'b' and 'd' is smaller than it should be. No idea how to solve this... = \version "2.17.96" music = { c'1 } musicEmpty = { R1 } \score { << \n

Re: Scores for the visually impaired

Hi Frederick, 2013/12/3 Frederick Bartlett : > Now that I'm *cough, cough* an expert LilyPond user, I want to explore > something really difficult. > > My wife, a voice teacher, suffers from macular degeneration. Before her > vision degrades so much that she can no longer read printed scores, I'd

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

karol wrote > Hi Eluze, > > it works, but only if all three piano-staves are visible. When staff 'c' > is empty (hidden), distance between 'b' and 'd' is smaller than it should > be. No idea how to solve this... what if you augment the value in the PianoStaff: << \new PianoStaff \with {

Re: still no ultimate way to create three-staff piano layout

This doesn't solve the problem. Look at the example. In the first system spacing is proper, but in the second, distance between 'b' and 'd' is 9 (should be 10.5). = \version "2.17.96" musicMusic = { c'1 \break c'1 } emptyMusic = { R1 \break c'1 } musicEmpty = { c'1 \break R1 }

Re: Problems with LilyJAZZ.ily

2013/11/25 Urs Liska > I have to add that some opinions were raised that we can't simply put > something in such a library that was 'published' on lilypond-user without > asking back with the author - who seems to be unreachable for LilyJAZZ. > in the archives I've found his web.de address I sen

Re: Scores for the visually impaired

Hi, Janek Thanks for those terrific tips. Once I know enough to have questions that require only two-sentence answers, I'll be sure to contact you. Thanks again, Fred On 8 December 2013 06:17, Janek Warchoł wrote: > Hi Frederick, > > 2013/12/3 Frederick Bartlett : > > Now that I'm *cough, cou

Re: Problems with LilyJAZZ.ily

In his initial announcement, he wrote, "At any rate, the whole LilyJAZZ issue shall be open and free (just like Lilypond)..." Is that not enough? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-03/msg00647.html Curt On Dec 8, 2013, at 5:05 AM, Federico Bruni wrote: > 2013/11/25 Urs Lisk

Re: Problems with LilyJAZZ.ily

Curt writes: > In his initial announcement, he wrote, "At any rate, the whole > LilyJAZZ issue shall be open and free (just like Lilypond)..." > > Is that not enough? > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-03/msg00647.html "Shall be" does not state when. It's certainly not a r

Re: Scores for the visually impaired

Curt, I had no idea such a thing existed. It looks terrific! thanks for the tip. Fred On 8 December 2013 14:41, Curt wrote: > I wonder if you could get some ideas from the python scripts that convert > lilypond files into scrolling videos... > > On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Frederick Bartlett

Re: Volunteers for a few comparison experiments

Hi Urs, 2013/11/11 Urs Liska : > Am 11.11.2013 11:04, schrieb Urs Liska: > >> Hi all, >> >> while Janek is writing down his experiences with a complex engraving >> challenge I thought it would be a good idea to do some honest comparisons >> with other tools face with the same challenge. > > [lots

Re: engraving comparisons and other "promotional" materials

2013/12/7 Joseph Rushton Wakeling : > On 07/12/13 19:18, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> ? >> Have you looked at "Eja Mater awful Finale.pdf"? Do you consider the >> issues marked in red minor? They actually make it very difficult to >> sing the rhythm

Re: engraving comparisons and other "promotional" materials

On 08/12/13 22:42, Janek Warchoł wrote: My experience says otherwise (maybe because my choir is not professional): we continued to sing this moment badly for the next 5 years. Well, then your complaint is certainly valid! :-) I have seen it about 10 times already, in scores coming from differ

Re: Lilypond Website Work

2013/12/6 Federico Bruni > These problems should be recorded in our tracker. > So far I've seen 2 issues/feature requests: > > 1. improve SEO > 2. associate a different color scheme to each manual > > I've added them: https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3714 https://code.google.co

Re: Lilypond Website Work

Am 08.12.2013 23:23, schrieb Federico Bruni: 2013/12/6 Federico Bruni mailto:fedel...@gmail.com>> These problems should be recorded in our tracker. So far I've seen 2 issues/feature requests: 1. improve SEO 2. associate a different color scheme to each manual I've added them:

Re: engraving comparisons and other "promotional" materials

2013/12/8 Joseph Rushton Wakeling : > On 08/12/13 22:42, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> I have seen it about 10 times already, in scores coming from different >> people. I can send you more examples in private. > > Question -- were these all or mostly vocal works? yes. > I have a feeling the inclusion o

Re: Lilypond Website Work

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 08.12.2013 23:23, schrieb Federico Bruni: > > > 2013/12/6 Federico Bruni > >> These problems should be recorded in our tracker. >> So far I've seen 2 issues/feature requests: >> >> 1. improve SEO >> 2. associate a different color scheme t

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

2013/12/5 Trevor Daniels > > David Kastrup wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:17 AM > > > > Janek Warchoł writes: > > > >> I believe that the most important thing is just to have a powerful > >> editor installed with LilyPond so that people get the most of LilyPond > >> right away. > > > > For

Re: Lilypond Website Work

On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > > I have something in development for #2 on Federico's list. I've parsed > through enough of the texi2html script that I was able to insert CSS > classes into the tag that will allow me to color code each manual. > One thing that is very stra

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Am 08.12.2013 23:59, schrieb Federico Bruni: 2013/12/5 Trevor Daniels > David Kastrup wrote Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:17 AM > Janek Warcho? mailto:janek.lilyp...@gmail.com>> writes: > >> I believe that the most important thing is just to have

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

2013/12/5 Richard Shann > The Denemo windows and mac binaries have LilyPond built in. Not sure > about the GNU/Linux one. > I would bet that it's not built in. In debian lilypond is recommended, it's not a dependency of denemo: $ apt-cache depends denemo | grep lilypond Recommends: lilypond

RE: A thought on Windows Experience

Hello, I understand that I should intersperse my comments below. From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Urs Liska Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:03 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: A thou

Re: LilyPond Website Work

On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2013/12/6 David Kastrup : > > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> A suggestion from my colleague: for a long time he kept confusing LM > >> and NR, and he said that it would be nice if (for example) they had > >> different color schemes so that one wi

Re: Another time model (related to the usability thread)

Hi David, >> Now all one needs is a function to take skips (e.g., from a global >> variable) and turn them into multi-measure-rests — which is probably >> relatively easy to do — and there's no more problem. =) > > You mean like > \applyMusic \mmrest-of-length { s1*20 } No… I mean like \so

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

Mark Stephen Mrotek ca.rr.com> writes: > The Lilypond website presents “Manuals” that when clicked displays a page that starts with “Text Input … Read this first.” > That hot link goes to a page that has a section titled “Easier editing environments.” A hot link takes one to a list including Fres

RE: A thought on Windows Experience

Mr. Harkins, Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows directions. Mark Stephen Mrotek -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of James Harkins Sent: Sun

RE: A thought on Windows Experience

On Dec 9, 2013 11:52 AM, "Mark Stephen Mrotek" wrote: > > Mr. Harkins, > > Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows directions. Then you have more faith than I in general usage patterns on the internet. (As in, you still think people read and follow directions online.)

RE: A thought on Windows Experience

Mr. Harkins, Perhaps my faith is not so much an problem as is your cynicism. Mark From: James Harkins [mailto:jamshar...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:03 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: RE: A thought on Windows Experience On Dec 9, 201

RE: A thought on Windows Experience

On Dec 8, 2013 11:02 PM, "James Harkins" wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2013 11:52 AM, "Mark Stephen Mrotek" wrote: > > > > Mr. Harkins, > > > > Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows directions. > > Then you have more faith than I in general usage patterns on the internet. (A

RE: A thought on Windows Experience

Mr. Peterson, Thank you for your reply and conciliatory suggestion. Mark From: Carl Peterson [mailto:carlopeter...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 8:27 PM To: jamshar...@dewdrop-world.net Cc: Mark Stephen Mrotek; Mailinglist lilypond-user Subject: RE: A thought on Windows Exper

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Monday, December 9, 2013 12:02:31 PM HKT, James Harkins wrote: On Dec 9, 2013 11:52 AM, "Mark Stephen Mrotek" wrote: Mr. Harkins, Two or three hops are not too much for anyone that reads and follows directions. Then you have more faith than I in general usage patterns on the internet.

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

As mentioned earlier, I'm currently trying to review the "entry path" on lilypond.org, particularly from the potential new user perspective. Thank you all for these opinions that I'll take into account. Urs James Harkins schrieb: >On Monday, December 9, 2013 12:02:31 PM HKT, James Harkins wr

Re: A thought on Windows Experience

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:12 AM, James Harkins wrote: > Carl's two-column approach is pretty much what I had in mind. Although, he > suggests this would be only a slight improvement. I think it could be more > than that. Suppose we introduce the downloads with a couple of paragraphs > across the t