color in the manual (was: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices))

2007-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
I'm not overly enthusiastic about adding color to the manual: I'm not certain how it will look in a printed pdf (many people print the docs) or in the info files. We obviously need to use color in the doc section about color, and the red staff-lines in Ancient notation will show up as black an

Re: color in the manual

2007-08-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Graham Percival wrote: I'm not overly enthusiastic about adding color to the manual: I'm not certain how it will look in a printed pdf (many people print the docs) or in the info files. We obviously need to use color in the doc section about color, and the red staff-lines in Ancient notation

I'm new to lilypond

2007-08-30 Thread Raichu
Hi, I've just started trying out Lilypond and I'm amazed at the quality. I'm still trying to figure out how to put staves together. Can anyone help with a problem? I want to generate piano sheet music with treble and bass. The treble contains both a melody line and an accompaniment, with lyrics b

Re: I'm new to lilypond

2007-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
I highly recommend reading the tutorial for 2.11. Even though this is the unstable branch, the material in the new tutorial will apply to 2.10 (or even 2.8 or 2.6), and the new tutorial explains many things much better. As for the templates, isn't D.2.2 exactly what you want? Cheers, - Graham

Re: Lilypond Odd Jobs (mostly documentation)

2007-08-30 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, The one-shot jobs might have a better result/payoff ratio Well, I'm also happy to do that... I'll look at your updated list (separate thread) and go from there. There are three different levels you could pursue: Low: definitely. Medium: likely. High: maybe. you should have f

Re: color in the manual (was: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices))

2007-08-30 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, Anybody feel like writing a wordy explanation about polyphony? I think I can handle that. =) Best, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

triplet bracket disappear

2007-08-30 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Hello, I am using the following commands to get a short 6-measure, 9-staff piece to fit on one page: #(set-default-paper-size "letter" 'landscape) #(set-global-staff-size 13) At this size, I discovered some (not all) of by triplet brackets disappear. Has anyone experienced this? Is there a fi

Re: triplet bracket disappear

2007-08-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Brackets that would be too short to print nicely are automatically removed. As far as I can remember, there is no possibility to specify the minimum width of a triplet and force LilyPond to modify the note spacing to get at least this width, but I may be wrong. There are such possibilities on so

Re: Tweaking placement of rehearsal marks

2007-08-30 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Mats - LilyPond version 2.11.x solved my problem with no further intervention from me. Very nice! Nick Mats Bengtsson wrote: If you upgrade to the latest development version, 2.11.x, there is no need for any tweaking, since these kind of collisions are avoided automatically. If you want to st

Re: lilypond-book macros/variables

2007-08-30 Thread v!ictor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hello Mats, thanks for your reply. I didn't know about m4 or cpp. Will take a look. victor. On 8/29/07, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In any text editor, it's trivial to automatically replace all occurences > of > something like > \lilystart > by > \begin[staffsize=12]{lilypond}

Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Valentin, On 8/29/07, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK, so just to sum up the situation: I now have TimeSignatures aligned > with barlines, which is fine for the topmost TimeSig, but not for the > "internals" ones between each StaffGroup (since, when occuring at the > begi

Re: triplet bracket disappear

2007-08-30 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Hello Mats Today I had the same problem appear on a piano part that I extracted with default staff size. I got an 8th note followed by a qtr note, with only the number "3" below them, with no bracket. Boo. This is a real problem, and as I understand there may not be a fix, how should I proce

Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)

2007-08-30 Thread Mark Dewey
Mats Bengtsson wrote: . . . Mark, what do you say? Is the current example in the manual too complex so that the main points are not clear enough? Should we replace that example by Kieren's? I didn't mean to imply anything about the documentation earlier. But, since you asked . . . Perhaps Kie

Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?

2007-08-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/30, Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hopefully it's got a second wind. ;) Great! I didn't expect that this problem was manageable... > Whilst searching for a solution to a rehearsal mark problem, I stumbled > upon this interesting function in output-lib.scm, which might help: > > It s

Re: triplet bracket disappear

2007-08-30 Thread Vivian Barty-Taylor
Hi all, I know two solutions to this problem. Tuplet brackets disappear when the spacing gets tight, and seems to be a Lilypond "feature" rather than a bug. The first solution is to manually increase the spacing between notes in a tuplet: \once \override Score.SeparationItem #'padding = #0.7

Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Valentin, On 8/30/07, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Nah, it's already perfect! Not only will I use it (in all my scores, > starting right now) but I'll add it to the LSR as well. I'm glad you like it; I've found it quite useful myself, though at first it led me to a dead

Re: Alignment problem with RehearsalMark

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Mats, On 8/28/07, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Here's an example, which I also send to bug-lilypond. > > \relative { \mark "C" c1 | \mark "D" d | \clef alto > \mark "E" e | \mark "F" f | > } > > % Uncommenting this layout block, causes both the C and the E marks > % to m

Re: Alignment problem with RehearsalMark

2007-08-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I don't mean to hassle you, but nothing's appeared on bug-lilypond yet. If you like, I'll post a report myself. I don't know where you looked, but it's certainly in the mailing list archives, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2007-08/ms

Re: Alignment problem with RehearsalMark

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Puttock
On 8/30/07, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quoting Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > I don't mean to hassle you, but nothing's appeared on bug-lilypond yet. > If > > you like, I'll post a report myself. > > I don't know where you looked, but it's certainly in the mailing li

piano with lyrics (was I'm new to lilypond)

2007-08-30 Thread Raichu
> I highly recommend reading the tutorial for 2.11. OK thanks I'll have a look at it. > As for the templates, isn't D.2.2 exactly what you want? Not quite. I want it to come out like typical pop sheet music, two staves with lyrics between. The treble stave contains (polyphonically) both the melo

Re: piano with lyrics (was I'm new to lilypond)

2007-08-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
2007/8/31, Raichu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Not quite. I want it to come out like typical pop sheet music, > two staves with lyrics between. The treble stave contains > (polyphonically) both the melody line and an accompaniment. > > melodyline = \relative c' { ... } > accompaniment = \relative c' { .

Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)

2007-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
Mark Dewey wrote: I think the \upper and \lower thing in the documentation is syntactically confusing, without specifically saying they represent the notes there, I would recommend either replacing these with notes directly, or showing their instantiation above the example (and explaining the

Re: piano with lyrics (was I'm new to lilypond)

2007-08-30 Thread Raichu
> > Not quite. I want it to come out like typical pop sheet music, > > two staves with lyrics between. The treble stave contains > > (polyphonically) both the melody line and an accompaniment. > > It would look more like this: > > \score { > \new GrandStaff << > \new Staff = "upper" << >

Re: piano with lyrics (was I'm new to lilypond)

2007-08-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Raichu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Thanks that's much better. However the music looks wrong. The stem direction is as if each voice had the stave to itself. I am getting repeated warnings about this: warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns I need the melody stems pointing up and the

Autobeaming problem in 12/16

2007-08-30 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi everybody, I'm trying to set the autobeaming behaviour in 12/16 so that the semiquavers are beamed as two sets of 6/16 with a subdivision of 3/16 (see picture below). So far, I've come up with the following code , which doesn't work properly: \version "2.11.30" \paper { ragged-right = ##t } \r

Re: Alignment problem with RehearsalMark

2007-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
Thanks, added as http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=432 Cheers, - Graham Mats Bengtsson wrote: Neil Puttock wrote: Just to clarify this, are you saying that this happens as a result of the default setting of break-align-symbols combined with moving the mark engraver to the

LSR: score for diatonic accordion

2007-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
Is the creator of this snippet on this list? The snippet includes a script for jedit; I'm not certain if that makes sense on LSR. Although many people use jedit, it's by no means universal. Would it be possible to place that script somewhere else (on a website, on the wiki, whatever) and rem

Re: triplet bracket disappear

2007-08-30 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Thank-you very much Vivian The "ugly hack" has become my default as I cannot chase these cases down individually and stay sane. It's very unpredictable. Best Nick Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote: Hi all, I know two solutions to this problem. Tuplet brackets disappear when the spacing gets tight, an

Suppress Staff.shortInstrumentName printing for parts?

2007-08-30 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Hello I am using Staff.instrumentName and Staff.shortInstrumentName. Works great for full ensemble scores. As expected the first system shows the long name and subsequent systems show short name. However I then print parts and get undesired effect of having a part with the long name on the t

Re: Suppress Staff.shortInstrumentName printing for parts?

2007-08-30 Thread Graham Percival
See 8.2.8 Different editions from one source. 8.2 is even called "Preparing parts". I highly recommend browsing through the manual. Later on, you'll remember that you saw something in the docs about whatever you want to find. - Graham Nick Didkovsky wrote: Hello I am using Staff.instrume