Re: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain'

volgende geschreven: p.s.  Isn't it also weird that the pedal-off symbol is not horizontally aligned with the pedal-on symbol? On Thu, 4 Aug 2022, Jim Cline wrote: I have a score where the sustain starts in the voice in the bass clef, and ends after the voice crosses i

Re: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain'

pedal-off symbol is not horizontally aligned with the pedal-on symbol? On Thu, 4 Aug 2022, Jim Cline wrote: I have a score where the sustain starts in the voice in the bass clef, and ends after the voice crosses into the treble clef. It compiles but with a warning: cannot find start of pi

Re: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain'

ith a warning: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain', with respect to the sustainOff. The warning goes away if I comment out midi{}. However it would be nice to understand what is giving rise to the problem. I tried keeping the sustainOff in the bass clef, despite the voice cro

cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain'

I have a score where the sustain starts in the voice in the bass clef, and ends after the voice crosses into the treble clef. It compiles but with a warning: cannot find start of piano pedal: `Sustain', with respect to the sustainOff. The warning goes away if I comment out midi{}. Howev

Re: Piano Pedal placement

Hi Martin, You could try the attached, with the commands pedOn, pedRetake and pedOff. Best, David Sustain-Pedal-2.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document \version "2.19.83" \pointAndClickOff pedOn = #(define-event-function () () #{ -\tweak shorten-pair #'(0 . -1) -\tweak self-alignmen

Piano Pedal placement

I am experimenting a bit with piano sustainpedal notation (see attachments) and have some questions: - IMO by default *All* pedal markings are aligned too far to the left by default. Is there a reason for this, or is this a bug or something that needs improvement? This seems to be a structur

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 7:40 AM Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi Phil, > > > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the > > dampers are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a binary > > choice. > > That’s not

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

Hi Phil, > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the dampers > are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a binary choice. That’s not true: the amount of pressure applied by the dampers — from 100% to 0% — is graduated (based on how

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

Am Sa., 30. Nov. 2019 um 11:50 Uhr schrieb Andrew Bernard : > I don't write this stuff, I am merely the harmless drudge that tries to > engrave it! [...] > I have seen other composers write the same thing also. I think > it's a type of modernist composer shared delusion. > > The things we engraver

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

Am Sa., 30. Nov. 2019 um 01:20 Uhr schrieb Andrew Bernard : > > I wonder if it is possible to indicate piano pedal gradual release off, > and gradual on, using curves? Please refer to attached shots of MS. > > We have been able to do great things with pedal lines before in respons

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

Am Samstag, 30 Nov 2019 10:24:30 - schrieb Phil Holmes: > What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve? Either the > dampers are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a > binary choice. So a gradual release simply makes the time the sust

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

ion. The things we engravers have to put up with! Andrew On 30/11/19 9:24 pm, Phil Holmes wrote: What on earth does a gradual piano pedal release achieve?  Either the dampers are touching the strings or they're not, so it's in effect a binary choice.  So a gradual release simply ma

Re: Piano pedal gradual release

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Bernard" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:20 AM Subject: Piano pedal gradual release I wonder if it is possible to indicate piano pedal gradual release off, and gradual on, using curves? Please refer to attached shots of MS. We

Piano pedal gradual release

Is there any support for pedal gradual release when using line and bracket style where the gradual release ends in a sustain pedal off event? I am aware that for a sustain on/sustain off event you can simply use bracket flare settings, but in this case I need to influence the segment to the end bra

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi Przemyslaw, > Do you perhaps indirectly suggest something like replacing closing > asterisk "*" with asterisk with some space padding "* “? That’s exactly what I’m suggesting. > That could work too, I guess, if it's possible. Yes. And it would be the superior workaround, since it would invol

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi, Kieren! On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> No one played with positions of \sustainOn and \sustainOff? > > Well, I took a couple of seconds, and failed. > > Then, just now, I realized there’s a possible solution: >

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi, Mark! On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > If acceptable, the use of "bracket" style can eliminate the conflict. Going in my pedal definition with: \set pedalSustainStyle = #'bracket is other kind of workaround, but text style is much more visually appealing to

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

Hi, > No one played with positions of \sustainOn and \sustainOff? Well, I took a couple of seconds, and failed. Then, just now, I realized there’s a possible solution: I don’t know if markup (or even “fake markup”) support

RE: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

January 27, 2016 11:34 AM To: lilypond-user Subject: Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff) Hi! No one played with positions of \sustainOn and \sustainOff? On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Przemyslaw Pawelczyk wrote:, > I have a problem with \sustainOn and \sustainOff collidi

Re: Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

[...] > but it often looks bad on the paper. You can see the problem below: http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/piano-pedal-mark-collision.pdf http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/piano-pedal-mark-collision.ly BTW Isn't it a bug that those c

Piano pedal mark collision (\sustainOn, \sustainOff)

)? Exemplary source file and PDF: http://paste.przemoc.net/lilypond/piano-pedal-mark-collision/ Regards. -- Przemyslaw Pawelczyk Cross-site thinker, rookie composer, Linux apprentice https://soundcloud.com/przemoc86 ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

Andrew, On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Hi David, > > I am very pleased to report that the following sort of thing works just > fine: > > \alterBroken shorten-pair #'( #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 2)) > Dynamics.PianoPedalBracket > > Color me surprised that that syntax works! I wo

Re: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

Hi David, I am very pleased to report that the following sort of thing works just fine: \alterBroken shorten-pair #'( #'(0 . 0) #'(0 . 2)) Dynamics.PianoPedalBracket I wonder if an example like this should be an LSR snippet? Andrew On 30/12/2015, 12:10, "David Nalesnik" wrote: Possibly yo

Re: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

Hi Andrew, On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > I need to be able to have a finer degree of control over where piano pedal > brackets end on the right, mid piece and not just at the final bar of > music. If I use an adjustment via shorten-pair ot etxend the last bra

RE: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

] On Behalf Of Andrew Bernard Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 4:52 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position I need to be able to have a finer degree of control over where piano pedal brackets end on the right, mid piece and not just at the final

Fine control over piano pedal end bracket position

I need to be able to have a finer degree of control over where piano pedal brackets end on the right, mid piece and not just at the final bar of music. If I use an adjustment via shorten-pair ot etxend the last bracket to position, long running pedal lines which span many lines are all extended

Re: Piano pedal lines

Greetings, That’s good to know that pedals support the line interface. But I think what I require is a blend of pedal and text spanner, so that I can change end marks and add arbitrary text. I am hoping to achieve effects similar to the attached image. Can the pedal stencil be adjusted to do th

Re: Piano pedal lines

At 16:05 on 10 Jul 2015, Andrew Bernard wrote: >Greetings All, > >Using bracket style for piano pedals, is it possible to have a dashed >horizontal line instead of solid? Yes. See below. For more options, note that PianoPedalBracket supports the line-interface, so you can override any of those pro

Piano pedal lines

Greetings All, Using bracket style for piano pedals, is it possible to have a dashed horizontal line instead of solid? Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: piano pedal

- Original Message - From: "Mark Stephen Mrotek" To: "'David Kastrup'" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 3:15 PM Subject: RE: piano pedal David, Thank you for the references. I shall read them today. I want the pedal indication to be "brac

RE: piano pedal

on. Mark -Original Message- From: David Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:05 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: piano pedal "Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > David, > > Thank you for your reply and the comma

Re: piano pedal

"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > David, > > Thank you for your reply and the commands. > Where in the documentation can I find more on the method (the why and how it > works) you presented? http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/modifying-context-plug_002dins> http://www.lilypo

RE: piano pedal

Abraham, Thanks, I shall look more closely. Mark From: Abraham Lee [mailto:tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 6:47 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: David Kastrup; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: RE: piano pedal On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Mark Stephen

RE: piano pedal

Kastrup [mailto:d...@gnu.org] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 11:38 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: piano pedal "Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: Hello, Using the documentation http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/piano I have

RE: piano pedal

:38 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: piano pedal "Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > Hello, > > > > Using the documentation > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/piano > > I have "attached" the sus

Re: piano pedal

"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes: > Hello, > > > > Using the documentation > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/piano > > I have "attached" the sustain commands to the "left" staff. > > When the lower voice moves to the "right" staff the sustain markings change > style and locat

piano pedal

Hello, Using the documentation http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/piano I have "attached" the sustain commands to the "left" staff. When the lower voice moves to the "right" staff the sustain markings change style and location. What must be done? Thank you for your

RE: Piano pedal - horizontal alignment

Mr. Holmes, Thank you for your reply and the instructions. I shall follow them. Mark -Original Message- From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 7:01 AM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Piano pedal - horizontal alignment

Re: Piano pedal - horizontal alignment

- Original Message - From: Mark Stephen Mrotek To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 2:47 PM Subject: Piano pedal - horizontal alignment Hello, In a piano score the \sustainOn, \sustainOff symbols are generally in a horizontal line, i.e., same distance below the

Piano pedal - horizontal alignment

Hello, In a piano score the \sustainOn, \sustainOff symbols are generally in a horizontal line, i.e., same distance below the bass staff. In some instances the symbol is higher or lower depending on the vertical position of the note to which it is attached. How do I get them all on the same

Re: inclined piano pedal bracket

Valentin Villenave wrote: > > 2008/10/9 ellepi611 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I'm a beginner with Lilypond and I'd like to know how >> have an inclined piano pedal bracket , like this > > Something like: > \once \override Staff.PianoPeda

Re: inclined piano pedal bracket

2008/10/9 Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No… I believe the desired property is #'bracket-flare, so that only the end > is tilted (not the entire bracket/line). Yes, we spoke about this with Mats recently: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2008-09/msg00243.html However, I'

Re: inclined piano pedal bracket

Hi, I'm a beginner with Lilypond and I'd like to know how have an inclined piano pedal bracket , like this Something like: \once \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket #'rotation = #'(15 1 0 ) No… I believe the desired property is #'bracket-flare, so that only the end

Re: inclined piano pedal bracket

2008/10/9 ellepi611 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm a beginner with Lilypond and I'd like to know how > have an inclined piano pedal bracket , like this Something like: \once \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket #'rotation = #'(15 1

inclined piano pedal bracket

Hi, I'm a beginner with Lilypond and I'd like to know how have an inclined piano pedal bracket , like this | |/ and this: | |___/ Someone can help me? Thanks! Ellepi -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/inclined-piano-pedal-bracket-tp19899844p19899844

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

2008/9/15 Risto Vääräniemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Neil, > > 2008/9/14 Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> No, unless you're compiling from source. The asterisk's bounding box >> is hard-coded during font generation (see attached image). > > How did you get that image? In Lilypond or in Fontf

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

2008/9/15 Mark Polesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2008/9/14 Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Unfortunately, the strings in this list are only used to build up the >> glyph names. > > That _IS_ unfortunate. I was under the impression that if I wanted to > create my own pedal asterisk, I could (ie.

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

Hi Neil, 2008/9/14 Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > No, unless you're compiling from source. The asterisk's bounding box > is hard-coded during font generation (see attached image). How did you get that image? In Lilypond or in Fontforge (or something else)? I'd like to see if the numbers in

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

2008/9/14 Neil Puttock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Unfortunately, the strings in this list are only used to build up the > glyph names. That _IS_ unfortunate. I was under the impression that if I wanted to create my own pedal asterisk, I could (ie. without compiling from source!) I think this is the

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

ed using the following override: pedalSustainStrings = #(list "Ped" (markup #:lower 0.45 (#:teeny #:musicglyph "pedal.*") #:bracket #:musicglyph "pedal.Ped") (markup #:lower 0.45 #:huge #:musicglyph "pedal.*")) Regards, Neil From 064d3724b88e6a8b

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

Hi Neil, No, unless you're compiling from source. The asterisk's bounding box is hard-coded during font generation (see attached image). But why wouldn't (i.e., doesn't) this work? \layout { \context { \Score pedalSustainStrings = #'("Ped." "*P

Re: piano pedal vertical alignment question

Hi Mark, 2008/9/14 Mark Polesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > When using \sustainOn and \sustainOff to make piano pedal marks, > the "Ped." glyph and the "*" glyph (which has less height) are > drawn with the tops vertically aligned. Is there a way to align &g

piano pedal vertical alignment question

When using \sustainOn and \sustainOff to make piano pedal marks, the "Ped." glyph and the "*" glyph (which has less height) are drawn with the tops vertically aligned. Is there a way to align them at the baseline without manual overrides on each \sustainOff? If any devel

Re: piano pedal lines over staff

If you really want to use it as a piano pedal bracket, then you can do \override Staff.SustainPedalLineSpanner #'direction = #UP \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket #'edge-height = #'(-1.0 . -1.0) Otherwise, use ordinary text spanners with \override Tex

piano pedal lines over staff

I've tried different text span options, but cannot seem to get exactly what I'm after. Is there a way to have a piano pedal sort of line above the staff, with the end hook pointing down? Somewhat like this (though a solid complete line,

Re: Piano Pedal performace across a PianoStaff

Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Interesting, you get a SIGSEGV! > > However, if you replace "Piano_pedal_performer" with > "Piano_pedal_engraver", LilyPond will process the file without > crashing. Still, it doesn't do what you want. > The next time, you try these things, remember tha

Re: piano-pedal-{performer,engraver} bug

Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Since SustainEvent and friends are symbols (not strings), we should >> be comparing them to symbols instead of strings. > > Thanks. Applied. > > Did this cause any errors, BTW? No pedal events actually ended up in any mi

Re: piano pedal brackets

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> /\_ > > > >I have the exact same problem here (both with your example and some of > >my own music) using 2.1.0. Is this a known bug? Is there a workaround? > If it is a bug should we post to the bugs list? Thanks. Yes, please. However, due to problems with

Re: piano pedal brackets

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:55:31 +0100, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Atte_Andr=E9_Jensen?= wrote: >Jonathan Kraut wrote: >> the bracket sides for a pedal change are drawn as: >> >> \__/___ >> >> instead of >> >> /\_ > >I have the exact same problem here (both with your example and some of >my own m

piano pedal brackets

Hello list! I am typesetting some piano music and have run into a problem with the bracket style of pedalSustainStyle. If I have some simultaneous notes in each clef, and the notes in the treble clef contain some accidentals, the bracket sides for a pedal change are drawn as: \__/___ instea