2013/12/28 Federico Bruni :
> 2013/12/28 Janek Warchoł
>>
>> I don't know what happened to Colin - i thought that he was going to
>> start working on this already - but anyway here's the rough
>> translation of my "quick start" tutorial:
>>
>> https://github.com/janek-warchol/warsztat-nutowy/blob/
2013/12/28 Janek Warchoł
> I don't know what happened to Colin - i thought that he was going to
> start working on this already - but anyway here's the rough
> translation of my "quick start" tutorial:
>
> https://github.com/janek-warchol/warsztat-nutowy/blob/translation/english/uczenie/2%20wprow
Hi Daniel and Alex,
2013/12/27 Daniel Rosen :
>
>> >> From: Janek Warchoł [mailto:janek.lilyp...@gmail.com]
>> >> I've created a "Quick-start" tutorial some time ago. It's only
>> >> 6 pages long and covers nearly all basic notation elements than a
>> >> beginner would need - but it's not just a
sers; Jan Nieuwenhuizen; David Kastrup; Urs Liska; Noeck;
>> Kieren MacMillan; Joseph Wakeling; Benjamin CL; Richard Shann
>> Subject: Re: improving LilyPond useability
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> (sorry for delayed reply - so many emails flying around...)
>>
>
rd Shann
> Subject: Re: improving LilyPond useability
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> (sorry for delayed reply - so many emails flying around...)
>
> 2013/12/2 Daniel Rosen :
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Janek Warchoł [mailto:janek.lilyp...@gmail.com] I&#x
Yann writes:
> About this, I also like the fact in LaTeX that once I find the package
> that does what I want, I can read the associated doc and use it. Most
> of the time it is as simple as "load this package, specify options"
> and use some new commands if provided. What I mean is that the
> pr
On 12/10/2013 04:41 PM, Yann wrote:
Hello everybody :)
I agree with this statement of Janek Warchoł, I think a quick start
document would be nice. Maybe the user could be redirected to it when
first starting Lilypond (either a web page launched in the browser, or
a document open) ? Such a docum
> 2013/12/4 Jacques Menu
> My recent experience creating choir scores for the first time, one of
> them with difference words a given stanza in a repeated part (see
> attachments), makes me think it would help to have off-the-shelf *commented*
> samples of some size and complexity, as a comple
2013/12/5 Noeck :
>> There are two possibilities which come to mind:
>> - an appendix to LM, which would actually be my *second* choice, or
>> - a new "Templates" library, analogous to the Snippets.
>
> there is a templates folder in the snippet library!
> https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets
Am 05.12.2013 22:39, schrieb Noeck:
There are two possibilities which come to mind:
- an appendix to LM, which would actually be my *second* choice, or
- a new "Templates" library, analogous to the Snippets.
there is a templates folder in the snippet library!
https://github.com/openlilylib/s
> There are two possibilities which come to mind:
> - an appendix to LM, which would actually be my *second* choice, or
> - a new "Templates" library, analogous to the Snippets.
there is a templates folder in the snippet library!
https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets
I copy the current folder
On 12/05/2013 01:54 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote:
2013/12/5 David Kastrup :
Janek Warchoł writes:
2013/12/4 Jacques Menu
My recent experience creating choir scores for the first time, one
of them with difference words a given
stanza in a repeated part (see attachments), makes me think it would
h
2013/12/5 David Kastrup :
> Janek Warchoł writes:
>
>> 2013/12/4 Jacques Menu
>>> My recent experience creating choir scores for the first time, one
>>> of them with difference words a given
>>> stanza in a repeated part (see attachments), makes me think it would
>>> help to have off-the-shelf *c
Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2013/12/4 Jacques Menu
>> My recent experience creating choir scores for the first time, one
>> of them with difference words a given
>> stanza in a repeated part (see attachments), makes me think it would
>> help to have off-the-shelf *commented*
>> samples of some size
Hi Daniel,
(sorry for delayed reply - so many emails flying around...)
2013/12/2 Daniel Rosen :
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Janek Warchoł [mailto:janek.lilyp...@gmail.com]
>> I've created a "Quick-start" tutorial some time ago - my choir colleagues
>> used
>> it when crowd-typesetting
"Janek Warchoł" schrieb:
>2013/12/4 Jacques Menu
>> My recent experience creating choir scores for the first time, one of
>them with difference words a given
>> stanza in a repeated part (see attachments), makes me think it would
>help to have off-the-shelf *commented*
>> samples of some size
2013/12/4 Jacques Menu
> My recent experience creating choir scores for the first time, one of them
> with difference words a given
> stanza in a repeated part (see attachments), makes me think it would help to
> have off-the-shelf *commented*
> samples of some size and complexity, as a compleme
>> Some criticism has been made about the length of the manual. I started
>> with an IBM PS2 (1982) using a non-graphical interface Microsoft
>> Word. The manual, if my addled memory is correct was somewhere around
>> 300+ pages.
>
> And cut.
>
> "Wrangling down that attacking Rottweiler wa
"Mark Stephen Mrotek" writes:
> Since my practice and performance of Lilypond spans less than a year
> (installed 21 May 2013), I might qualify to comment on the "attractiveness"
> and/or "accessibility" of Lilypond to a newbie.
>
> Preservation of a two-part invention written for an undergraduat
nt: Monday, December 02, 2013 7:16 AM
To: Phil Burfitt
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: improving LilyPond useability
"Phil Burfitt" writes:
> I believe first impressions are important, and I think that LilyPond
> lets itself down here. After installing LilyPond, a new user w
renato writes:
> Hi, I feel like you misinterpreted what I'm saying. All the things you
> say are good of course: sensible syntax, good "getting started"
> documentation, templates, not exhausting the user. I'm not saying you
> should purposefully make lilypond obscure, just saying that you shoul
From: "Renato"
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 11:54 PM
"Phil Burfitt" wrote:
>you don't really get around these programs without reading docs
>(and you shouldn't try to make it easy).
I disagree with "you shouldn't try to make it easy".
what I meant was "you shouldn't try to make it eas
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:01:30 +0100
David Kastrup wrote:
> Renato writes:
>
> > On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:14:52 -
> > "Phil Burfitt" wrote:
> >
> >> >you don't really get around these programs without reading docs
> >> >(and you shouldn't try to make it easy).
> >>
> >> I disagree with "you sh
Renato writes:
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:14:52 -
> "Phil Burfitt" wrote:
>
>> >you don't really get around these programs without reading docs
>> >(and you shouldn't try to make it easy).
>>
>> I disagree with "you shouldn't try to make it easy".
>
> what I meant was "you shouldn't try to mak
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 18:14:52 -
"Phil Burfitt" wrote:
> >you don't really get around these programs without reading docs
> >(and you shouldn't try to make it easy).
>
> I disagree with "you shouldn't try to make it easy".
what I meant was "you sh
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Phil Burfitt wrote:
> - Original Message - From: "David Kastrup"
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 7:11 PM
>
>
> Wouldn't it be far better after installing lilypond, to present the
>>> user with a cut down tutorial and usage instructions in a read-me
>>> f
- Original Message -
From: "David Kastrup"
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 7:11 PM
Wouldn't it be far better after installing lilypond, to present the
user with a cut down tutorial and usage instructions in a read-me
file, and two desktop icons/shortcuts...one for this read-me file, a
"Phil Burfitt" writes:
> From: "Renato"
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:49 PM
>
>> I mean, lilypond is text-editor + command-line by design
>
> Of course, but what it the point of invoking a command prompt that
> _doesn't work_ when clicking on the lilypond icon (the view from a
> windows ma
- Original Message -
From: "Renato"
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:49 PM
I mean, lilypond is text-editor + command-line by design
Of course, but what it the point of invoking a command prompt that _doesn't
work_ when clicking on the lilypond icon (the view from a windows machine
> -Original Message-
> From: Janek Warchoł [mailto:janek.lilyp...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 8:50 AM
> To: LilyPond Users; Jan Nieuwenhuizen; David Kastrup; Urs Liska; Noeck;
> Kieren MacMillan; Joseph Wakeling; Benjamin CL; Richard Shann
> Subject:
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"Phil Burfitt" wrote:
> So often people after buying a new shiny thingy, open the box, plug
> it in, and only after numerous failed attempts to get it to work,
> decide to read the manual
Well they'd hit the same wa
"Phil Burfitt" writes:
> I believe first impressions are important, and I think that LilyPond
> lets itself down here. After installing LilyPond, a new user will
> discover a new icon on their desktop. They'll double click on it, and
> what do they get?a sort-of read me file (it's LilyPad, bu
Hi,
I believe first impressions are important, and I think that LilyPond lets
itself down here. After installing LilyPond, a new user will discover a new
icon on their desktop. They'll double click on it, and what do they
get?a sort-of read me file (it's LilyPad, but you wouldn't know that
Hi all,
this is quite a different subject from the "promoting LilyPond" stuff,
so i separated this thread.
2013/12/1 David Kastrup :
> Kieren wrote:
>> Result? Not a single successful convert [to Lily] to date.
>
> I think Frescobaldi with its templates would likely be helpful.
> Possibly also De
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