Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-11 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hallo Roland, a few examples from Schubert, Lieder, Neue Ausgabe, Peters: Die Schöne Müllerin, Ungeduld bar 16: "hei - ßen Drang" bar 17: "wei - ßen Zettel" Winterreise, Erstarrung bar 29/30: "hei - ßen Tränen" Grü - ße, Thomas :-) > Hallo Thomas, > > Du schriebst: > > According to "Duden Rech

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2004-03-11 Thread Roland Goretzki
Hello list, hello Thomas, You wrote: > Hallo Roland, > > a few examples from Schubert, Lieder, Neue Ausgabe, Peters: > > Die schöne Müllerin, Ungeduld, bar 16: > "hei - ßen Drang" > bar 17: > "wei - ßen Zettel" > > Winterreise, Erstarrung, bar 29/30: > "hei - ßen Tränen" Well, I looked it up

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-11 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hallo Roland, a few examples from Schubert, Lieder, Neue Ausgabe, Peters: Die schöne Müllerin, Ungeduld, bar 16: "hei - ßen Drang" bar 17: "wei - ßen Zettel" Winterreise, Erstarrung, bar 29/30: "hei - ßen Tränen" > Hallo Thomas, > > Du schriebst: > > According to "Duden Rechtschreibung 1961 a

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2004-03-10 Thread Roland Goretzki
Hello list, hello Christoph, You wrote: > I couldn't find any special rules for the typesetting of songs. > The 21st edition of the Duden gives the following rules (corresponding > to the new orthography): > > - The ess-tset is usually treated like any other consonant. >An example similar

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-07 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I don't know anything about the german hyphenation rules in particular, but know that at least in some languages you don't use the same hyphenation in song lyrics as in normal text. So, I wouldn't take it for granted that Duden is right when it comes to music typesetting even if it's authoritative

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-07 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 02:34, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: > According to "Duden Rechtschreibung 1961 an 1998"): > > "hei - ßen" > > Thomas > Bochum > Germany > > > På tirsdag, 2. mars 2004, kl. 11:07, skrev David Bobroff: > >> In this instance the word is "heissen" (with ess-tset, of course). > >

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2004-03-06 Thread Christoph Ludwig
Hi, On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:06:51AM +0100, Roland Goretzki wrote: > > I have just completed some songs for a German composer, and he sais > > that ess-tset (ß) shall be broken s-s ("heis-sen"). > > AFAIK this is correct, but only for songs. In this case I do the same. > (In songs it is no lin

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-04 Thread Oddmund Åvik
På onsdag, 3. mars 2004, kl. 08:34, skreiv Thomas Scharkowski: According to "Duden Rechtschreibung 1961 an 1998"): "hei - ßen" Then of course that is right. I apologize that I have cited a composer who obviously is not updated in the Rechtschreibung ... /Oddmund ___

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-04 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
According to "Duden Rechtschreibung 1961 an 1998"): "hei - ßen" Thomas Bochum Germany På tirsdag, 2. mars 2004, kl. 11:07, skrev David Bobroff: In this instance the word is "heissen" (with ess-tset, of course). Should it be "heiss - en" or "hei - ssen"? Or does the ess-tset get broken up thusly

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2004-03-03 Thread Roland Goretzki
Hello list, hello /Oddmund, You wrote: > I have just completed some songs for a German composer, and he sais > that ess-tset (ß) shall be broken s-s ("heis-sen"). AFAIK this is correct, but only for songs. In this case I do the same. (In songs it is no linebreak, but each syllable is fixed to e

heißen Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-03 Thread Roland Goretzki
Hello list, hello David, You wrote: > In this instance the word is "heissen" (with ess-tset, of course). > Should it be "heiss - en" or "hei - ssen"? Or does the ess-tset get > broken up thusly: "heis - sen"? I know just enough about German to be > completely unsure. AFAIK the second form is c

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-03 Thread Roland Goretzki
Hello list, hello /Mats You wrote: > symbol. However, as I wrote in my previous answer, if you also add > \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} > and make sure NOT to have > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > in your file header, then also ß in the input should work fine Wow! :) I was waiting a very long time f

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-02 Thread Oddmund Åvik
På tirsdag, 2. mars 2004, kl. 11:07, skrev David Bobroff: In this instance the word is "heissen" (with ess-tset, of course). Should it be "heiss - en" or "hei - ssen"? Or does the ess-tset get broken up thusly: "heis - sen"? I know just enough about German to be completely unsure. I have just co

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-02 Thread David Bobroff
On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 09:08, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > I think I understand now what's going on. > Isn't it that you in normal LaTeX with german babel write > "s (without any backslash) to get the ess-tset? > In text markups, some characters have to be escaped, for example > you have to write \\ to g

Re: ess-tset again

2004-03-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I think I understand now what's going on. Isn't it that you in normal LaTeX with german babel write "s (without any backslash) to get the ess-tset? In text markups, some characters have to be escaped, for example you have to write \\ to get a single \ in the generated output, \" to get a " and so o

ess-tset again

2004-03-01 Thread David Bobroff
>I actually though the standard way to obtain an ess-tset in LaTeX >was \ss, it may be that the german babel adds the option to specify >it as \"s. Anyway, '\ss{}' should work well in lyrics both with >lilypond and with lilypond-book+HTML or whatever. It is as far as I know. When I tried it I got