Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-29 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - > From: "Jim Long" > To: bobr...@centrum.is > Cc: "Noeck" , lilypond-user@gnu.org > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:51:41 AM > Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 07:45:51PM +, bobr...@

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Jim Long
On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 07:45:51PM +, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Noeck" > > > > A naive question: Could the \cadenzaOff command be changed in a way that > > it automatically implies the end of a measure at that point. > > I can think of instances w

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - > From: "Noeck" > To: bobr...@centrum.is > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 7:53:58 PM > Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 > > Hi David, > > > I recall thinking at some point that perhaps L

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Noeck
Hi David, > I recall thinking at some point that perhaps LilyPond would count up the > stuff not between \cadenzaOn ... \cadenzaOff and place barlines in the > correct place (it doesn't). What do you mean here differing from 1) (which is what I also proposed in a previous mail)? I don't underst

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - > From: "Noeck" > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 3:55:07 PM > Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 > > A naive question: Could the \cadenzaOff command be changed in a way that > it automatically impli

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Noeck
A naive question: Could the \cadenzaOff command be changed in a way that it automatically implies the end of a measure at that point. Perhaps I overlook cases where this is not wanted, but where I use this command, I want a bar line and a new bar starting with beat one right after it. Any comments

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Noeck
Hi David, how about this: \version "2.18.2" \score { \relative c' { \clef F \key a \major r4-\fermata cis4 ~ cis8.-[ \grace { dis32 cis bis cis } dis!16-] \cadenzaOn e4 ~ \teeny \stemUp e32-[ dis e dis-] \cadenzaOff cis-[ bis! c b-] a-[ gis a gis-] %% 4/4 measur

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - > From: "Mark Knoop" > To: "Lilypond User List" > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 12:14:36 PM > Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 > > At 10:49 on 28 Mar 2015, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: > >- Original Message

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Mark Knoop
At 10:49 on 28 Mar 2015, bobr...@centrum.is wrote: >- Original Message - >> From: "Andrew Bernard" >Yes, I have accidentals in the cadenza section. As I stated, however, >in the final measure the cadenza has been ended and a bar line has >been crossed so the key signature is in full force

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
- Original Message - > From: "Andrew Bernard" > To: bobr...@centrum.is, "Lillypond Users Mailing List" > Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:23:40 AM > Subject: Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2 > > Well, you have a C natural in the group of 32

Re: cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread Andrew Bernard
Well, you have a C natural in the group of 32s, and then in the last bar a C#, so generally engravers will put a sharp to revert the previous natural and let the performer know we are back to normal (cadenza or not). That’s how I learned music (I think!). Also, when putting manual beaming, you

cadenza_and_accidentals-take2

2015-03-28 Thread bobr...@centrum.is
I provided a bad example in my previous attempt in an effort to be minimal. Here goes with one that actually illustrates the issue: I ran into some seemingly odd output when using \cadenzaOn and \cadenzaOff. According to this: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/displayi